Please keep everything cool. Attack the case, not the person.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:09 am
by Drone
I'll add in the fact that if he is scum, he'll be showing signs over and over again, eventually a slip would hammer him. He's not our top priority at scum hunting.
I can assure you that scum!Creeps will be boiling himself in this game.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:16 am
by copper223
As long as the conversation doesn't brake down into insulting each other I don't mind colorful language when you address me, but it's of course up to the mod to decide where the boundaries are.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:20 am
by copper223
In post 351, Drone wrote:I'll add in the fact that if he is scum, he'll be showing signs over and over again, eventually a slip would hammer him. He's not our top priority at scum hunting.
The first part I definitely agree with, the second part not so much.
If you think Creeps is the likeliest scum candidate he is your top priority, it hard enough to lynch scum (especially on D1) that trying to be selective about which scum you lynch is a pipe dream.
That said I personally don't believe he is scum either.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:24 am
by TwoFace
In post 349, Drone wrote:Can you confirm they didn't? If so they're lying on purpose. As town they'd have no purpose to lie about that.
You should be concluding they're scum, you should be voting them, no?
Anything else, you're throwing shade.
Pedit: same for Uzi.
I'm not thin skinned, I just can't tolerate a game played this way. It's written in my wiki page that I'm harsh with a habit of being intolerant towards negative attitude.
About Creeps:
There's absolutely no reason why town would want to keep him alive, yet this behaviour is just way too scummy. As I said, he it might be WIFOM, but highly unlikely.
I can basically confirm he didn't see it since it was in the same post. Impossible to miss. I'm voting scum already so I don't see the need to change to his partner. I can vote HS after copper is lynched. Or if scum kill me town can lynch HS tomorrow.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:27 am
by Lil Uzi Vert
@Drone: I'm content and happy with who I'm currently voting for so I'm not going to move my vote right now, especially after I haven't really sorted HC or seen anyone else other than Copper if I'm recalling correctly, try to. His response to why he called you out was fine to me, I just don't buy he didn't see that you were v/LA.
I don't see why Creeps can't be playing the too scummy to be scum card.
As for your stance on the language thing I'm with you, I'm all for positive vibes. I've just seen a lot worse.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:34 am
by Drone
So why's Copper scum and Mort not?
Pedit:
How a bout we start sorting others then?
As for the Creeps, here can be. But as I said, he will slip if he's scum.
I'll be honest, seeing HS not that super active, they might be skimming through and not paying too much attention. So it's possible that they're missing here and there. I myself didn't closely read everything, not to mention I can't memorise everything to really process it all.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:36 am
by Drone
Ebwodp:
The pedit is for @Uzi.
"As for Creeps*, he* can be. But as I said, he will slip if he's scum. "
Typos.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:38 am
by Human Sequencer
Drone, stop defending me. I can do that myself.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:45 am
by Drone
I wasn't defending you, I was comparing you missing the V/LA to the possibility of me missing stuff for the same reason. Unless you weren't skimming. Then I can agree with Twoface.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:50 am
by TwoFace
In post 359, Drone wrote:I wasn't defending you, I was comparing you missing the V/LA to the possibility of me missing stuff for the same reason. Unless you weren't skimming. Then I can agree with Twoface.
If it was hidden in a large post, maybe he could miss it. It wasn't though. It was a short post.
I get missing stuff while skimming cause I'm notorious for it. It's why I'll respond to one thing when there are multiple things I should be responding to. It's impossible to skim that post and not see the v/la.
Drone has been confirmed and he can play. He said that he'll be V/LA until tomorrow.
How can you miss anything in this?
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:52 am
by TwoFace
If you see the word drone. You immediately see the word v/la as its directly underneath
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:59 am
by Human Sequencer
No, it's to the right near the end of the line. I only read Mafia on pc, do you use a mobile?
I read 'Drone had been confirmed', recognized that as the most important part of the message, and disregarded the rest as unimportant.
I always skim mod posts (no offense Key) because they're a function of the game, and all of the reads and information is in player posts. I just head in, get what I need, and get out.
I wasn't actually skimming at that point, by the way, because I was actively here like I am most nights in that time slot.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:00 am
by Human Sequencer
I wasn't actually skimming the thread at that point*
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:01 am
by Drone
I just ISO'd Key and I somewhat have to say I was sure the part that I confirmed was updated before the V/LA. But yeah, makes sense.
TF. Let's go with what you said in 354.
Let's say we lynch Copper and he's scum. How would that guarantee HS is scum too? They have enough time to prove another, I have to say that their play doesn't give anything to read so far.
Besides, if Copper flips town? You sure it's a good statement?
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:03 am
by Drone
I actually expected you to notice that statement, HS.
Don't know why the misread is what concerns you.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:04 am
by Drone
Btw HS. How do I address you? I don't think anyone likes to be referred as "they".
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:09 am
by Human Sequencer
It's intentionally blank.
I don't mind what you use.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:11 am
by TwoFace
Oh yes I'm on mobile. Ok but still don't see how you missed it. Anyway I think you're lying but not going to lynch you based solely off that.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:19 am
by TwoFace
In post 365, Drone wrote:I just ISO'd Key and I somewhat have to say I was sure the part that I confirmed was updated before the V/LA. But yeah, makes sense.
TF. Let's go with what you said in 354.
Let's say we lynch Copper and he's scum. How would that guarantee HS is scum too? They have enough time to prove another, I have to say that their play doesn't give anything to read so far.
Besides, if Copper flips town? You sure it's a good statement?
It wouldn't guarantee anything. I'ts just who I'm scum reading ATM.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:22 am
by Human Sequencer
Could you give us a more detailed case on Copper and I? I've skimmed your ISO and can't see you giving any real reasoning so far apart from 'I don't like you!' and the Drone question.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:34 am
by TwoFace
In post 371, Human Sequencer wrote:Could you give us a more detailed case on Copper and I? I've skimmed your ISO and can't see you giving any real reasoning so far apart from 'I don't like you!' and the Drone question.
Copper has already been discussed. Add in he tried to twist 2 nearly identical statements and imply they were somehow different. I can't see that coming from town.
As for you, yeah that basically covered it. Not a fan of your posts and the drone thing doesn't make sense. If you flip scum, I'll totally wager that drone will also
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:39 am
by ThinkBig
Spoiler: The Catch Up Wall
In post 217, TwoFace wrote:Sorry copper. Scum can't be lynchbait cause the goal is to lynch scum.
This is objectively false.
In post 218, copper223 wrote:Scum can definitely be lynchbait because that's about your playstile and not what alignment you roll in a game, what happens when a player that is lynchbait as town plays another game and rolls scum, he magically becomes not lynchbait?
In post 260, copper223 wrote:TB is not explaining himself, you are making stuff up, which one looks scummier to you?
The point is I did not know he was lynchbait when I could have pushed him to get a reaction or I was already on his wagon when I said I thought he was, either way what you are saying does not work chronologically.
I am v/la as I mentioned. I'll try to answer in this post.
In post 321, copper223 wrote:Okay Mort, you are at the very least pretending to game solve and maybe it was just us butting heads because we are seeing things very differently from our own perspectives.
I don't see much (other than him being less active, but the same goes, much more so, with Toto) from HS that points at him being a different aligment from our recent game where he was town.
I have my theory on the drone comment but I want to hear what he says first.
VOTE: ThinkBig
You are next on the: why did you jump on the copper wagon list, you appear to also be game avoiding. I also want to hear your answer to Mort's questions.
What is your theory on the Drone question?
As far as copper, the reason why I voted for copper is because of him twisting the lynchbait discussion. For now, I will unvote.
UNVOTE: Copper
Hey all,
I am on V/LA until after the election on Tuesday
. The majority of my posts are coming from my iPhone. Therefore, my posts may not be able to be as substantive as I'd normally like it to be.
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:47 am
by copper223
@TB
My theory on the Drone comment is that HS wanted to get him to post, I believe him when he says he missed the V/LA (since scum_HS and town_HS have basically no incentive to lie about this).
What I thought was the since Drone had replied to Key he was at the very least semi-active on the forum and HS wanted to test how much he was reading along despite saying he was V/LA.
When you're back I'd like a clarification about what you think I twisted about the lynchbait discussion.