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"Of course you should fight fire with fire. You should fight everything with fire."

-Jaya Ballard, task mage

Shining Dreamers
Chara
Tibor and Lumia

Iconeum, OnTheMark, baku and munna, Maid Cafe, Creature, Bronya Zaychik, Almost50, Reasonably Rational, SnarkySnowman, Taly, Skybird, Micc, Venmar, Dunnstral

:(expired on 2018-03-27 20:30:00)

Cerb inspired me to improve this game.

~B

In post 351, Maid Cafe wrote:

@Judge/Varsoon Can I use the former to refer to you this game?

Yay!

~B

Mastina I think your logic is kinda flawed in 2 regards.

1) Meta/Ancedote type stuff doesn't really work cross players on such a small sample. + Your kinda just wrong in spotting my intentions and kinda aren't really taking into consideration I could have got frustrated and reeled myself in considering you thought my overall case was logical after I stepped back and summed it up.
2) I think I am a very rough player to read day 1, but like mid day 2 I am usually easy af to read.

~B

In post 250, Reasonably Rational wrote:

In post 234, Shining Dreamers wrote:And given that Reasonably Rational is just about the most powertown hydra in existence regardless of

I appreciate this part of your post. <3

-Cerb

Quick question about this, mastina: Did you MEAN to say powertown, or did you mean to say protown? I appreciate it either way, but I realized it coulda been different.

Also, am I self-sorting because I do too fucking much to develop and implement a winning plan for town for me to, by the time it gets to end game, believably push for a town win without preventing my own win as scum?

-Cerb

Generally I don't really have anything I want to do atm.
Kinda stumped on who I want to vote so I am going to roll with what Maki wanted to do.

I don't really want to vote Skybird, I tone read 1 post as town but it's mostly due to how I think I can more comfortably reading her compared to other players in this game.

VOTE: Ico

~B

In post 355, Maid Cafe wrote:Mastina I think your logic is kinda flawed in 2 regards.

1) Meta/Ancedote type stuff doesn't really work cross players on such a small sample. + Your kinda just wrong in spotting my intentions and kinda aren't really taking into consideration I could have got frustrated and reeled myself in considering you thought my overall case was logical after I stepped back and summed it up.
2) I think I am a very rough player to read day 1, but like mid day 2 I am usually easy af to read.

~B

Actually that could have been Yume posting.
But same thing generally applies.

~B

In post 358, Maid Cafe wrote:

In post 355, Maid Cafe wrote:Mastina I think your logic is kinda flawed in 2 regards.

1) Meta/Ancedote type stuff doesn't really work cross players on such a small sample. + Your kinda just wrong in spotting my intentions and kinda aren't really taking into consideration I could have got frustrated and reeled myself in considering you thought my overall case was logical after I stepped back and summed it up.
2) I think I am a very rough player to read day 1, but like mid day 2 I am usually easy af to read.

~B

Actually that could have been Yume posting.
But same thing generally applies.

~B

Twas definitely Yume posting.

Wonder when the people who didn't participate in the pregame are gonna show up.

-Cerb

I don't think Scum Mastina goes.
"I am going to go setup a beeboy lynch for you Yume"
a lot of the time so I lean town on the slot because of that.

~B

In post 360, Maid Cafe wrote:I don't think Scum Mastina goes.
"I am going to go setup a beeboy lynch for you Yume"
a lot of the time so I lean town on the slot because of that.

~B

I don't actually think anyone familiar with you pushes your lynch D1 as scum, so your reasoning makes sense to me.

-Cerb

Actually, it was me, and yet it wasn't.



The statement before this one is true.

The statement before THIS one is false.

So tell me, is it me, or is it not?

In post 329, Taly wrote:Is your read on Chara based on meta?

Me: Taly directed a thing at you.
Maki: It's not meta.

~B

In post 324, Skybird wrote:

In post 270, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 260, Skybird wrote:Right now, I feel like either Maid Cafe or OTM is scum, I'm not sure which one though leaning towards Maid Cafe. I didn't like 53 and 88 from them.

Tibor and Lumia ping town to me. That is a gut read.

Pre-edit: Thanks Phosphophyllite

What post pinged you as town? I know pings if true can be hard to explain but which post shouldn’t be.

I'm phone posting so it's a bit hard to find the post but I liked that they updated their signature to make it easier for us to remember who was who. I we I'll find the post when I get home.

@OTM it was post 160.

VOTE: Taly
I think this is a good place to start. I don't know how you get a role like the one he claimed and don't immediately think "hey I can use this to confirm other people's abilities when they claim them" as town. Like sure everyone's probably got access to reasonably powerful ability, but waiting for someone to get run up to L-1 and claim and then copying their ability to compare it to the claim seems like good value.

For the record I disagree with any theory argument that leads to claims from players not on L-1. Props to Chara for expressing importance of not being stupid.

Tibor Taly Micc Skybird potential team?

Will explain when home but I think the Maki slot is town but beeboy scum. Since I tend to read beeboy backwards going with beeboy slot is town for now.

I kinda think Sky is town but 160 gives me scum feels for Tibor not town.

And the entire argument isn’t activity. It is just a piece. He’s really hyper as town and not so much as scum.

In post 365, Micc wrote:VOTE: Taly
I think this is a good place to start. I don't know how you get a role like the one he claimed and don't immediately think "hey I can use this to confirm other people's abilities when they claim them" as town. Like sure everyone's probably got access to reasonably powerful ability, but waiting for someone to get run up to L-1 and claim and then copying their ability to compare it to the claim seems like good value.

For the record I disagree with any theory argument that leads to claims from players not on L-1. Props to Chara for expressing importance of not being stupid.

Micc, do you feel the need to have an intent to hammer to claim, or just L-1?

Also, while I'm here, I'll just post my, at this point, standard thing. I don't do read lists, will not be providing a read list at any point. I hate writing them. If you get one from this slot, Gamma wrote it, but I will be agreeing with it since we will discuss beforehand any of that.

In post 262, Iconeum wrote:Skybird, Creature, RR, Shinding D townread.

Maid Café should respond to 237. I love how she bashes OTM for not responding, yet doesn't answer herself.

Maid scumreading right now. Maybe lyncher - lynchee with OTM. That would be hilarious

This seems like just useless shade throwing, not trying to do much to move a conversation forward, strange.

Still think Mid Cafe and On the Mark seem like town.

Venmar seems a bit off.

I'm liking RR, even if I can't remember what the Rs stand for, they can be town.

-Tibor

In post 362, Shining Dreamers wrote:Actually, it was me, and yet it wasn't.



The statement before this one is true.

The statement before THIS one is false.

So tell me, is it me, or is it not?

This resolves to Actually, it wasn’t me, and yet it was.

This is of course assuming the last statement made by the hydra is true.

If the last statement was false then this resolved to Actually it was me, and yet it wasn’t.

However then we end up in a confirmation spiral so the general principle is that the statement is true unless otherwise indicated.

Therefore I believe the answer you want is
“Actually it was me, yet it wasn’t.”

In post 367, OnTheMark wrote:I kinda think Sky is town but 160 gives me scum feels for Tibor not town.

And the entire argument isn’t activity. It is just a piece. He’s really hyper as town and not so much as scum.

Wait, is this a meta argument on me or Gamma?

-Tibor

In post 369, OnTheMark wrote:

In post 362, Shining Dreamers wrote:Actually, it was me, and yet it wasn't.



The statement before this one is true.

The statement before THIS one is false.

So tell me, is it me, or is it not?

This resolves to Actually, it wasn’t me, and yet it was.

This is of course assuming the last statement made by the hydra is true.

If the last statement was false then this resolved to Actually it was me, and yet it wasn’t.

However then we end up in a confirmation spiral so the general principle is that the statement is true unless otherwise indicated.

Therefore I believe the answer you want is
“Actually it wasn’t me, yet it was.”

Ebwop

Derp words crossed last line.

In post 370, Tibor and Lumia wrote:

In post 367, OnTheMark wrote:I kinda think Sky is town but 160 gives me scum feels for Tibor not town.

And the entire argument isn’t activity. It is just a piece. He’s really hyper as town and not so much as scum.

Wait, is this a meta argument on me or Gamma?

-Tibor

Gamma. Every town game I have read of Gamma’s he has like a bajillion (scientific term IKR) posts. I know you said earlier that Gamma was back seating but I would expect to see something from him. I also don’t like it took me asking about Gamma for you to mention it, while Mastina was uptight about it.

You're correct. You win a puppy.

In post 347, Shining Dreamers wrote:I felt this way about another person once, and I was right, so there is 90% chance I am right this time as well.

how could you possibly be 90% sure on anything this early.

In post 368, Tibor and Lumia wrote:Venmar seems a bit off.

lol your face seems a bit off

In post 362, Shining Dreamers wrote:Actually, it was me, and yet it wasn't.



The statement before this one is true.

The statement before THIS one is false.

So tell me, is it me, or is it not?

this post is cancer