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Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:38 pm
by Tim Goodman
Ceejay / URAP isos are toxic waste.
Creature is missing some zest and hasn't been approaching this quite like I expect him to as scum.
I'm still diffident about Detective Pikachu.
LUVs's iso feels pretty bad.
RedPanda's iso feels pretty bad and like he's trying to be townread for his 'moving the game forwardness'
PB ???
Chemist also leaning scum to at least some extent.

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:39 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 220, Tim Goodman wrote:dang

i feel like both CC and EP are pretty hard town after that last interaction

like i guess CC might just be playing super well but i think i'm pretty happy clearing them both.
I can actually understand this given the previous post by CC

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:47 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 228, RedPanda wrote:cinnamon and cc are scum. Will post in sometime.
Now that I've come around on CC I don't like this post, feels like targeting LHF lurkers

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:51 pm
by Klick
In post 130, RedPanda wrote:
u r a person 2

Detective Pikachu

Cinnamon
Uzi

Creature

EspressoPatronum
Chemist1423

Pink Ball
Klick

ceejayvinoya
ClearlyClarity
Tim Goodman
On the subject of RP, I found this post in particular to be less of a game-solving list and more of a 'I crossed off everyone who made an impression on me'. The people left on his list were the players that had posted least, with URAP replaced by EP.

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:52 pm
by Tim Goodman
I don't like RedPanda very much.

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:53 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I actually wasn't really impacted by it, it felt like an attempt to follow the crowd and look helpful so I didn't regard it as worth asking about

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:53 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Responding to 353^

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:58 pm
by EspressoPatronum
Really liked Gamma's Entrance. It made Cinnamon's slot look a lot better.

VOTE: Detective Pikachu

At this point, I'm pretty happy throwing my vote on anyone who isn't Tim, Pine (CC), Gamma (Cinnamon), or Creature.

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:01 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 233, RedPanda wrote:
In post 192, ClearlyClarity wrote:Pikachu is town and I’m not seeing any non-RVS reasoning for his wagon tbh
In post 217, ClearlyClarity wrote:
In post 196, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 193, ClearlyClarity wrote:Call me back when something cool happens.
Kk, so you have DP as town. Any scumreads?

You made your vote in Klick in RVS. Do you still agree with your vote? Why/why not?
By "something cool" I don't mean "interrogate me because I'm on your arbitrary lurker prodlist" but w/e.

You're my biggest scumread rn. Klick is like... muddled. 105 was kinda bad but they actually try to scumhunt, even if misguided or reaction-testy.
In post 219, ClearlyClarity wrote:
In post 218, EspressoPatronum wrote:Can you share why/how you got to your scumread of me? As it stands, it looks like it's either a bandwagon read or an OMGUS.
Honestly? You're right. Sorry. I signed up for too many games and I've always been more miserable in games outside of Newbie queue. I hate being in the dark about reads. Your posting has actually been p towny and I OMGUS'd out of annoyance.
I feel this is the same as cinnamon but this slot just backed off.
This reinforces how I feel about RP

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:02 pm
by Detective Pikachu
VOTE: RP let's go here then

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:03 pm
by Tim Goodman
I think voting RedPanda is likely to be incredibly unproductive so I don't want to vote them unless it's straight up speedlynch time.

Let's try this

VOTE: ceejayvinoya

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:04 pm
by Detective Pikachu
womp womp

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:07 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 257, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 219, ClearlyClarity wrote:
In post 218, EspressoPatronum wrote:Can you share why/how you got to your scumread of me? As it stands, it looks like it's either a bandwagon read or an OMGUS.
Honestly? You're right. Sorry. I signed up for too many games and I've always been more miserable in games outside of Newbie queue. I hate being in the dark about reads. Your posting has actually been p towny and I OMGUS'd out of annoyance.
This feels really unnatural to me.
Why? I was getting a sense CC was trying to play coasting scum so declaring this kinda defeats that or at least it's not what I expect from coasting scum.

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:09 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 258, EspressoPatronum wrote: What part is unnatural about the post is unnatural to you?
Huh?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:12 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 265, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 258, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 257, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 219, ClearlyClarity wrote:
In post 218, EspressoPatronum wrote:Can you share why/how you got to your scumread of me? As it stands, it looks like it's either a bandwagon read or an OMGUS.
Honestly? You're right. Sorry. I signed up for too many games and I've always been more miserable in games outside of Newbie queue. I hate being in the dark about reads. Your posting has actually been p towny and I OMGUS'd out of annoyance.
This feels really unnatural to me.
I thought it was genuine. #217 reads as though Clarity is annoyed, and she admits as much in #219.

What part is unnatural about the post is unnatural to you?
First three sentences.
So not the post in general, but the way they kinda stuttered?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:14 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 266, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 259, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 256, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 157, Creature wrote:
In post 107, EspressoPatronum wrote:Interested to hear some thoughts from the following people:

u r a person 2
Lil Uzi Vert
Cinnamon
ClearlyClarity


Lurker scum can be pretty dangerous. These four haven't posted much yet.
I think this looks good though

Espresso can be town
Why can’t this post come from scum? I disagree with his take on lurker scum to be honest.
You disagree that lurker scum can be dangerous?? Please elaborate.
You are unable to mislead, misdirect, and manipulate consistently if you’re lurking.
It's also not possible to contribute, and lurker scum is consistently a problem, Civ Mafia is a prime example of that. It's very valid to let town eat themselves alive.

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:16 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 267, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 261, EspressoPatronum wrote:Side note - how do I link numbers to the corresponding posts? I've just been using #number to point ppl to the post in question, but a direct link is way more convenient for the reader.
[post=Number]Number[/post]
Actually just [post=Number]Number[/post] is needed if you're linking within the same thread and just need the number.

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:18 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 271, RedPanda wrote:I was waiting for both cinnamon and clearity reactions to my post to vote for the scummier one but since clearity is ignoring this game, I'm forced to choose.

I don't like that cinnamon ignored my post. Seems like cinnamon is scared of a back and forth that might happen.

Vote cinnamon
Still wanna hold to this push now that they've replaced out?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:19 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 278, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 266, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 259, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 256, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 157, Creature wrote:
In post 107, EspressoPatronum wrote:Interested to hear some thoughts from the following people:

u r a person 2
Lil Uzi Vert
Cinnamon
ClearlyClarity


Lurker scum can be pretty dangerous. These four haven't posted much yet.
I think this looks good though

Espresso can be town
Why can’t this post come from scum? I disagree with his take on lurker scum to be honest.
You disagree that lurker scum can be dangerous?? Please elaborate.
You are unable to mislead, misdirect, and manipulate consistently if you’re lurking.
I've read several guides on forum maf over the last two weeks to help shore up my forum inexperience. Most guides say that successful maf teams have a combination of "deep threats" and manipulators. Manipulators stir up confusion, lead mislynches, and stall before they're picked off by lynches or PRs. Deep threats are responsible for blending in and making it to the end game to solidify a win.

You're right that lurkers can't manipulate consistently, but I would argue that you're overlooking potential deep threats.

Fwiw, I recognize that active players can still be deep threats, but I'd say lurkers are the more likely candidates. Lurking into deep threat has a smaller margin of error to being active (ie. Fewer chances to slip) and it requires less effort.

With all that theory in mind, I think focusing on lurkers has two benefits:
1. You limit the pool of lurker scum deep threats; and
2. Even if you lynch town, a lurker town is less valuable than an active town.
This is very accurate theory btw.

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:20 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 286, Creature wrote:
In post 284, Detective Pikachu wrote:what is a 'pole'?
Image
What

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:24 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 302, Pink Ball wrote:I'm trying to learn everyone's name before pushing anyone
...ok. How is this coming?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:27 pm
by Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Pink Ball
Their last post doesn't mesh with their activity level or what I feel like their personality is

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:45 pm
by EspressoPatronum
In post 363, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 258, EspressoPatronum wrote: What part is unnatural about the post is unnatural to you?
Huh?
I meant to write:
What part about the post is unnatural to you?
or
What part is unnatural about the post to you?

But instead I wrote both.... rip.

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:52 pm
by EspressoPatronum
In post 371, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Pink Ball
Their last post doesn't mesh with their activity level or what I feel like their personality is
Also worth noting that 13 of his 15 posts are fluff. The remaining 2 were him hopping on the early push against me.

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:12 pm
by Micc
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