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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:14 pm
by Doctor Drew
Again....wrath of mod and all that.

But, maybe entertain a theory that, in a bastard game, cults and mafia aren't all we have to worry about.

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:14 pm
by gameplay506
What

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:16 pm
by Vorkuta
In post 348, Doctor Drew wrote:Also, trying not to get mod smacked here so I can't really say much more specifically...but I think i should be kept alive.....at least until tomorrow.

JUST FUCKING TRUST ME OK
Hi it's vork here- I've been playing ball with you the most

So how do you reconcile this with the fact that you kind of "wanted" to be lynched earler today?
Did you finally realize something on the 50th reread of your rollPM?

And if not you, then who do you propose? Cyrus?
poetry

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:28 pm
by Doctor Drew
It involved clarification on the most minor details about my role. Something your eyeballs could look at a thousand times without noticing. Only noticed when I was asking for clarification on if I know who is recruited.

Also, never wanted to be lynched.....just thought it was for the best. Honestly don't think it is for the best anymore.

And how about this, anybody who is scared of me being the jester should be looked at a bit more.

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:35 pm
by Vorkuta
So
TL;DR, killing you D1 is much worse than keeping you alive until tomorrow which guarantees a cult recruit
and your wincon is that of town.
yet you've fullclaimed your modifiers already
oh boy
In post 353, Doctor Drew wrote:And how about this, anybody who is scared of me being the jester should be looked at a bit more.
I mean give then half a second to process the new information and reconsider their read on you

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:40 pm
by Vorkuta
In post 347, Not Known 15 wrote:gameplay506 (1)??;
Whoever this is

Would you like to communicate with me?

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:50 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 350, Doctor Drew wrote:Again....wrath of mod and all that.

But, maybe entertain a theory that, in a bastard game, cults and mafia aren't all we have to worry about.
I get that, but...

If it was negative utility we could holster then cool we wouldn't have to Lynch you but it's compulsive. I don't think we can ignore it for the slim chance you recruit mafia, which is still a net loss for town. Or SK, which is best case scenario. Unless the game is based around multiple cults which I doubt. Or at least haven't seen what I would expect if that were the case.

There is the possibility something in your role pm is untrue and is a red herring but town can't really take the risk.

Do I think there's a reason your role exists? Possibly. But I can't go into detail without potentially outing a situationally strong tpr.

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:22 pm
by cyrus62
i say qw do have to think basically i wish my role was as cool as doctors. my role pm said point blank no night action and i win when town wins . so yes i rather die then a random town less chances of killing a pr. but i would also like to find scum.

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:29 pm
by Doctor Drew
I think it is surface level negative, I help build a cult......of course is bad.

I think there are varying levels of bad in this game though.

A bit of, enemy of my enemy is my friend.

My working theory is a bit tinfoily, but I think there are multiple cults. I mentioned looking at people thinking I am a jester because they assume I will be converting people into their cult.......but I believe I will be converting into a different cult that counteracts said first, and presumably worse, cult.

Listen, this is all wackadoodle I know. But something along these lines is the only thing that makes sense for why I am pro town.

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:38 pm
by cyrus62
so doctor we are 15 pages in who do you think is cult/scum and who do you think is town.

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:54 pm
by cyrus62
if i had to pick a person i thought was scum/cult it would be gameplay hence the text of truth saids ?? is town and ?? is voting game play.

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:38 pm
by Iconeum
In post 331, Doctor Drew wrote:Honestly I think I should be lynched.

I really don't think I will just be killed and then game over, I bet I still will have influence over the game.

But that is just me guessing.
good guess
In post 334, gameplay506 wrote:Honestly Drew is the only logical and mechanically right lynch today.
I was worried that he might be jester and thus was going to propose a cyrus lynch just to prove that a cult exists since he is giving some strong cult vibes
But Drew's recent posting just seems as genuinely coming from town
So drew is correct lynch, but you also think it's genuinly town?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:21 am
by Vorkuta
In post 360, cyrus62 wrote:if i had to pick a person i thought was scum/cult it would be gameplay hence the text of truth saids ?? is town and ?? is voting game play.
sheeping an IC without any justification for the read is very :igmeou:
esp. considering that vote hasn't changed at all. it might be fixed and idk how I feel about that

ALSO
IMMA BE THAT GUY
Mod post said that text of truth is #0000FF
That's BLUE
??? is GREEN (#00FF00)

*mic drop*

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:23 am
by nomnomnom
This game became full setup spec instead of scumhunting. This only helps scum.

I know lynching Drew is probably the right thing to do at face value, but my intuition is telling me that it's the wrong move.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:26 am
by Iconeum
can we pressure the dude that says Drew is obviously town and wants to lynch there without questions asked?

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:30 am
by nomnomnom
In post 364, Iconeum wrote:can we pressure the dude that says Drew is obviously town and wants to lynch there without questions asked?
The role is claimed is clearly anti-town despite having a town win condition, so I understand why someone would want to lynch there.

I think there's a catch to all this. Certainly a moderator isn't going to make a game, even bastard, with a cult recruiter only and that's it. There's gotta be more to it. I still think there's a possibility drew's role is fake.

VOTE: Chemist1422 I think I want to explore this avenue.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:03 am
by Iconeum
Early reads by Iconeum

Vorkuta and nomnom seem like town. They feel very solvey, and 'in the dark' if you know what i mean.

I think DrDrew is equally gasping at this game, in a manner that is unlikely to be scum. Could still be a cult recruiter, but who plays that role like this huh? Yeah, nobody.

Gameplay joins this list.

I'm not lynching in myself or these 3.

Cyrus is null, I think better of him now then I did earlier.
RCE
Chemist
----- WOULD LYNCH BELOW THIS LINE

shos, feels like he's scared of the Doc's claim. Just read his ISO and see for yourself.
Pmysterious, have already posted about this
Chickadee feels like trying to establish a presence without *being* here. Would lynch.

If ur not in this list, i guess ur null to me

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:07 am
by Chickadee
In post 355, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 347, Not Known 15 wrote:gameplay506 (1)??;
Whoever this is

Would you like to communicate with me?
We've already talked about this, and (I'm in a rush here, so I'm not gonna go back and check who) a few people said it's better for this person to stay hidden.

The "??" are in green, but the text at the bottom of the vote count is blue. Text of truth.
In post 364, Iconeum wrote:can we pressure the dude that says Drew is obviously town and wants to lynch there without questions asked?
Hi, I also said this.

Can you tell me what Drew has done to make you think he's not town? Mechanically sure, it's easy to see. But look at his actions and words.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:21 am
by Iconeum
In post 367, Chickadee wrote:Can you tell me what Drew has done to make you think he's not town? Mechanically sure, it's easy to see. But look at his actions and words.
i think he's very much town

scum talk about this in their PT

a cult leader doesn't claim cult leader lol

nah he's town

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:25 am
by Chemist1422
In post 362, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 360, cyrus62 wrote:if i had to pick a person i thought was scum/cult it would be gameplay hence the text of truth saids ?? is town and ?? is voting game play.
sheeping an IC without any justification for the read is very :igmeou:
esp. considering that vote hasn't changed at all. it might be fixed and idk how I feel about that

ALSO
IMMA BE THAT GUY
Mod post said that text of truth is #0000FF
That's BLUE
??? is GREEN (#00FF00)

*mic drop*
it said below it in blue that they were town

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:43 am
by Vorkuta
In post 367, Chickadee wrote:for this person to stay hidden
Yes
They can still move their vote and stay hidden while sharing information with us

But they aren't

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:58 am
by PMysterious
In post 338, gameplay506 wrote:So either the mod has to hope that to role lands on someone who feels like creating chaos ( like PM)
Aw, you're too kind.
Iconeum wrote: ----- WOULD LYNCH BELOW THIS LINE
Pmysterious, have already posted about thise
Well, considering that I am bland compared to this cast of characters, lynching me wouldn't be a huge loss for anyone involved. I just want to live long enough to see everything happen right before my eyes. The thought of resurrection, cults, and many other crazy things just makes me excited about this game in particular.

I hate the idea of wanting to die when you have such an amazing role. I just want everyone to live so we can turn this game from a vanilla, boring game, to one where chaos ensues and everyone has fun.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:04 am
by Chemist1422
Wow you really want to watch the world burn don’t you

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:18 am
by PMysterious
For this particular game, yes. Because until we know what the threat(s) is, we can't be sure what to look for. We can't make a rational decision on what to worry about, if we don't even know the dangers that lurk on the streets of this town.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:36 am
by cyrus62
going thow this out there so every one knows there is 5 votes on doctor he or she with the most votes at the end of the day still die so rather you want doc dead or not wont matter if he has the most votes.