In post 5, Wake1 wrote:I will hammer whoever reaches L-1 without announcing it.
I do not like Day 1, because I've got literally nothing to work with.
Including yourself?
Of course not. That would go against my wincon.
If I did that I'd probably get in trouble with Mafiascum rules for going against my wincon.
Profii did you also miss this? Wake not self-hammering was well and truly established by now.
This game is really frustrating to read. I think there's scum in Vork or Elements. Saudade is likely just a really obnoxious town player I think, his carefree attitude probably doesn't come from scum and he does at least try the most minuscule of amounts to sometimes reign it in. I think that both Vork and Elements were piggybacking off Saudade and too willing to scumread Wake for not their own reasons. Profii is less guilty of this, and I can see a world where profii is town that I disagree with.
The only strong reads I have right now are Alimidia and Elbirn, who I'm pretty sure are both town. I'm not all that sure about my scumreads, but there's also a lot of day left. I also think that this lynch on Wake is just a gamble. I don't think the way he is playing right now has anything to do with his alignment.
VOTE: Elements
I'm less annoyed at this game now, and gun to my head, this is where I'd lynch today.
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:50 pm
by profii
I wanna hear a bit more from UltimatePlank
He says he best town read is alimdia
And from the Wimpy-saga he says scum probably piled on meaning one of {elements/vork/Saudade}
My questions are - why is alimdia so town and where does elements come into it as I don’t understand
Also, whilst I agree wimpy is likely town I am not sure that sheeping his slot is the wisest plan - being town inherently means uninformed ergo doesn’t actually know who the scum is.
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:52 pm
by profii
I’m just quoting what he said
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:13 pm
by UltimatePlank
In post 356, profii wrote:I wanna hear a bit more from UltimatePlank
He says he best town read is alimdia
And from the Wimpy-saga he says scum probably piled on meaning one of {elements/vork/Saudade}
My questions are - why is alimdia so town and where does elements come into it as I don’t understand
Also, whilst I agree wimpy is likely town I am not sure that sheeping his slot is the wisest plan - being town inherently means uninformed ergo doesn’t actually know who the scum is.
Alimdia has been ignoring the shitshow all game and putting out original thoughts for majority of the game. They're doing a lot of things that are good for the town, and for Day1 I think it's safe to assume they're town for now. Along with Elbirn they'd be the last 2 people I lynch in this game so far.
The phrasing on that last part is really weird. Obviously town are uninformed, we all are, that goes without saying. I never claimed that I was playing the wisest plan, but it's hard to be motivated to play when you have 10 pages of a shitshow and then when you actually return to play there's someone talking in 3rd person and insulting people.
Yeah, I think both vorkuta and elements were opportunistic about Saudade's pressure on Wake. It seems really strange to me that Wake received that much pressure and also, the pushing on Wimpy was really uninspired and I think Elements' arguments especially were really weak against Wimpy. I don't really know about Vork to be honest.
This looks like such a bad wagon to me. I don't think I trust anyone that's on it right now.
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:21 pm
by Wake1
It's way too early for me to speak with confidence my reads.
I want to say that I suspect there to be one Scum on my wagon. But, I can't narrow it down. It was just convenient for Scum to jump on with little resistance.
I Townread Wimpy's/Elbirns slot, so I will not be voting for him the remainder of the game, nor will I accept any votes directed his way. I do not believe Scum would just replace out like that, and I think that could be tactical replacing out (don't quote me on that).
Obviously to me I'm Town, and my wagon had very little resistance except on part of Wimpy/Elbirn. I do feel there's got to be at least one Scum jumping on my wagon.
Plus, the wagon itself was contrived. Nothing I had said warranted that trash-wagon, and I don't see any objective Townie actually running with it.
The sooner you acknowledge that your Townplay has been shoddy and reckless the better it will be for you Day 2 and on if you're Town. If you continue that way I will pick you completely apart and you will realize why I have the reputation I have down in my sig.
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:36 pm
by profii
In post 361, Wake1 wrote:Plus, the wagon itself was contrived. Nothing I had said warranted that trash-wagon, and I don't see any objective Townie actually running with it.
So if there is 1 scum and 0 objective townies
What does that make the other 4 players on your wagon?
I feel like you’ve just insulted 4 people by saying that
In post 361, Wake1 wrote:Plus, the wagon itself was contrived. Nothing I had said warranted that trash-wagon, and I don't see any objective Townie actually running with it.
So if there is 1 scum and 0 objective townies
What does that make the other 4 players on your wagon?
I feel like you’ve just insulted 4 people by saying that
It makes them not-so-good at this game as Town. You don't just automatically believe things are Scum just because for some arbitrary reason. Me saying I'd quicklynch the first person who reached L-1 because I don't like Day 1 is completely nonindicative of alignment, and if you are in fact Town you acknowledge that or I will rip you apart.
If they're insulted, that is fine. I'm not here to placate people. I'm here to root out and lynch Scum.
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:40 pm
by Saudade
I was about to rethink my read on you
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:40 pm
by Saudade
But then I saw your join date
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:40 pm
by profii
In post 364, Wake1 wrote:I have the reputation I have down in my sig.
Ha ha I’m light of that I’m considering Un-voting you
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:41 pm
by Saudade
You will eat rope today wake88 if you are town might do your best now, d1, to find scum for us if it aint you
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:42 pm
by Wake1
Do not think your apparent reversal will save you from any scrutiny, both of you.
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:43 pm
by Wake1
In post 371, Saudade wrote:You will eat rope today wake88 if you are town might do your best now, d1, to find scum for us if it aint you
I do not fear the rope. I am the rope.
Do not get in my way as I start to question people.
I'm just now starting to get interested in this game.