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[HoldenGolden]

Aloratom

HoldenGolden

profii

Cat Scratch Fever

Morning Tweet

Wake88

davesaz

SirCakez

AaronFrost

bob3141

tictac

Gamma Emerald

288

Hmm, it's not in accordance to the players list on the first page. And I'm doubting the size thing = strength of read since the bbcode is specific to maintain the effect.

So im really perplex. How did I go from suspect to alright to second top town read?

[Hectic]

If you must know, Holden: The centre is towny, and the outer edges are scummy.

[HoldenGolden]

Wake vs Alo may be TvS

Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?

[HoldenGolden]

If you must know, Holden: The centre is towny, and the outer edges are scummy.

Ah very intuitive I see. I read all my books center outer, but I was going with conventional means of analysis. I'll be sure to make my read list in circles from now on.

[HoldenGolden]

Wake vs Alo may be TvS

Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?

To explain more:
I normally would be fine with the general it feels scummy statement you gave hectic, but it seems you have issues with Wake's approach upon rereading.

[Wake1]

Wake vs Alo may be TvS

Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?

"Wake vs All may be TvS" implies that he thinks I'm Town and Alo's Scum. However, if that's incorrect I'd like Cakez to clarify that.

[HoldenGolden]

Wake vs Alo may be TvS

Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?

"Wake vs All may be TvS" implies that he thinks I'm Town and Alo's Scum. However, if that's incorrect I'd like Cakez to clarify that.

See I would agree with that if it wasn't for the responses about your interactions with Alo. Given those, I'm curious about which side seems scummy to him.

[davesaz]

I think the case against Alo is not built very strong, but I don't think that in itself is scum indictative. Especially when that's in line with Wake making aggressive pushes

i still want to hear more about 304

What do you make about the point I brought up about Cake explaining the purpose of the protown statement before Alo's explanation and read over it?

Extends to anybody

I'm having trouble identifying which point you're referring to.

[davesaz]

Wake vs Alo may be TvS

Why? I still don't understand how these reads work btw, do you feel S is more likely to be one side, or you just get the feeling their interactions are scummy in some way?

The latter. Sometimes there's more reasoning for it but it's too early here.

I interpreted this to mean that Cakez thinks one is scum but doesn't know which one.

[Morning Tweet]

Alirotam can you explain 138 please?

Nothing wrong with ending RVS, but usually it's done organically.

I didn't see anything strained about Holden's posts.

You slammed on the brakes, saying stopping RVS was always pro-Town. Saying that Holden's posts were strained raised one of my eyebrows.

Making a point of saying that you're pro-Town raised both

.

I dont like this for the last part since in Cakes response to my post during the time he revealed he was making a general statement about ending RVS is protown. I agree the wording was a bit ambiguous at first (I thought he was saying that I thought he wasnt protown for doing it myself first time around), but it doesnt change the fact by the time this post came out it was clear what cake meant.

Spoiler: Posts in question

@sircake did I ever say it wasnt? Regardless of how pro town it is, that doesnt change the fact I want to see the thought process you put into it. I have an rough idea over the games I've played on how scum vs town approaches my playstyle. I do find the way you done it to be more of the latter, but I needed to understand what lead you there a bit more

I think you misunderstood my post. I was saying in general to the thread to move out of RVS is protown, it wasn't specifically directed at you.
I'm not sure what else to add to my description of my thought process here. I think 118 and 120 cover it.
I will agree that MT's vote reasoning was weird

Alirotam can you explain 138 please?

You slammed on the brakes, saying stopping RVS was always pro-Town. Saying that Holden's posts were strained raised one of my eyebrows. Making a point of saying that you're pro-Town raised both.

I think it's likely that Alo was explaining why he felt that way at the time of 138, rather than stating that's how he still felt.

[Morning Tweet]

Wake vs Alo may be TvS

Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?

"Wake vs All may be TvS" implies that he thinks I'm Town and Alo's Scum. However, if that's incorrect I'd like Cakez to clarify that.

See I would agree with that if it wasn't for the responses about your interactions with Alo. Given those, I'm curious about which side seems scummy to him.

What responses do you mean? Cakes followup in 342 makes it pretty clear to me that he means he feels one is scum but not sure which.

[bob3141]

will catch up tommorrow

[Morning Tweet]

I don't think Alo responds like this as scum
Hectic you can't have the meat

what consensus that wake is town?

Oh I kinda see what you're saying now. Calling it "TvS" still implies to me he's seeing something kinda independent about this interaction that suggests one but not the other is scum without pointing to one directly

[HoldenGolden]

I don't recall getting an answer from Aloratom.

VOTE: Aloratom

What makes you think Alo not answering the question is a scum move?

I don't know whether it makes Hectic town or scum that he ignored my comment about him not inspiring confidence.

Evading a question, to me, is not Townish whatsoever.

It's Scummy behavior.

In a lot of situations yeah but aren't there also situations where it's just certain people's playstyles to avoid questions? I'm thinking like a RC-type player. What makes Alo's evasion scum here?

Theres also this comment too where Sircake has been debating Wake's vote on Alo due to not answering the question. That's why I'm interested because he seems to have some doubts on Wakes motives while also providing what seems a towny stance on Alo

[HoldenGolden]

Alirotam can you explain 138 please?

Nothing wrong with ending RVS, but usually it's done organically.

I didn't see anything strained about Holden's posts.

You slammed on the brakes, saying stopping RVS was always pro-Town. Saying that Holden's posts were strained raised one of my eyebrows.

Making a point of saying that you're pro-Town raised both

.

I dont like this for the last part since in Cakes response to my post during the time he revealed he was making a general statement about ending RVS is protown. I agree the wording was a bit ambiguous at first (I thought he was saying that I thought he wasnt protown for doing it myself first time around), but it doesnt change the fact by the time this post came out it was clear what cake meant.

Spoiler: Posts in question

@sircake did I ever say it wasnt? Regardless of how pro town it is, that doesnt change the fact I want to see the thought process you put into it. I have an rough idea over the games I've played on how scum vs town approaches my playstyle. I do find the way you done it to be more of the latter, but I needed to understand what lead you there a bit more

I think you misunderstood my post. I was saying in general to the thread to move out of RVS is protown, it wasn't specifically directed at you.
I'm not sure what else to add to my description of my thought process here. I think 118 and 120 cover it.
I will agree that MT's vote reasoning was weird

Alirotam can you explain 138 please?

You slammed on the brakes, saying stopping RVS was always pro-Town. Saying that Holden's posts were strained raised one of my eyebrows. Making a point of saying that you're pro-Town raised both.

I think it's likely that Alo was explaining why he felt that way at the time of 138, rather than stating that's how he still felt.

Oh shoot I got the ordering wrong as well. Cake didnt post his thing to me till afterwards *facepalm*

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I think the case against Alo is not built very strong, but I don't think that in itself is scum indictative. Especially when that's in line with Wake making aggressive pushes

i still want to hear more about 304

What do you make about the point I brought up about Cake explaining the purpose of the protown statement before Alo's explanation and read over it?

Extends to anybody

Alo scumread cake in 138

Cake didn't explain himself until 145

Why is this weird?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Wake can you link a couple of your recent scumgames?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Wake can you link a couple of your recent scumgames?

also are you still feeling scum on Alo?

[Wake1]

Wake can you link a couple of your recent scumgames?

Aaronfrost mentioned one in here earlier.

Before that I do not remember.

[Wake1]

Wake can you link a couple of your recent scumgames?

also are you still feeling scum on Alo?

All I want to know from Aloratom is why he said that other guy was definite Scum.

Him evading my question only makes me suspect him more.

If he explains why, I'm more likely to relent.

[AaronFrost]

Aloratom

HoldenGolden

profii

Cat Scratch Fever

Morning Tweet

Wake88

davesaz

SirCakez

AaronFrost

bob3141

tictac

Gamma Emerald

288

Hmm, it's not in accordance to the players list on the first page. And I'm doubting the size thing = strength of read since the bbcode is specific to maintain the effect.

So im really perplex. How did I go from suspect to alright to second top town read?

I'm not entirely sure about this but I think the bigger names near the center are his townreads and the smaller ones at the end are his scumreads.

[SirCakez]

Wake vs Alo may be TvS

Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?

I lean that way a little bit. Wake's tons of questions without real content backing them up is kinda scummy. But it could also just be his playstyle. Also I don't TR Alo especially strongly.

Wake vs Alo may be TvS

Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?

"Wake vs All may be TvS" implies that he thinks I'm Town and Alo's Scum. However, if that's incorrect I'd like Cakez to clarify that.

It could be either way. Davesaz's 358 basically. Gosh you guys really got confused over my comment

Anyways I want to see more from Wake before voting there and Hectic just feels fake here. Like the early stuff ignoring my comment
I especially think that readslist is bs.

VOTE: hectic

[SirCakez]

I sense a lot of people in this game have defined playstyles and metas that I'm not aware of. So I might end up TRing or SRing people for non-AI stuff. Hopefully I catch on though.

[SirCakez]

*my comment towards Hectic is referring to my "Hectic is inspiring little confidence" post

[AaronFrost]

Wake vs Alo may be TvS

Why? I still don't understand how these reads work btw, do you feel S is more likely to be one side, or you just get the feeling their interactions are scummy in some way?

The latter. Sometimes there's more reasoning for it but it's too early here.

I interpreted this to mean that Cakez thinks one is scum but doesn't know which one.

Well if he thinks that Aloratom/Wake is tvs, shouldn't he have some idea of which one is scum in that scenario? Otherwise it's just kind of a vague statement that doesn't really mean anything.