Hmm, it's not in accordance to the players list on the first page. And I'm doubting the size thing = strength of read since the bbcode is specific to maintain the effect.
So im really perplex. How did I go from suspect to alright to second top town read?
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:13 am
by Hectic
If you must know, Holden: The centre is towny, and the outer edges are scummy.
Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:23 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 351, Hectic wrote:If you must know, Holden: The centre is towny, and the outer edges are scummy.
Ah very intuitive I see. I read all my books center outer, but I was going with conventional means of analysis. I'll be sure to make my read list in circles from now on.
Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?
To explain more:
I normally would be fine with the general it feels scummy statement you gave hectic, but it seems you have issues with Wake's approach upon rereading.
Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?
"Wake vs All may be TvS" implies that he thinks I'm Town and Alo's Scum. However, if that's incorrect I'd like Cakez to clarify that.
Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?
"Wake vs All may be TvS" implies that he thinks I'm Town and Alo's Scum. However, if that's incorrect I'd like Cakez to clarify that.
See I would agree with that if it wasn't for the responses about your interactions with Alo. Given those, I'm curious about which side seems scummy to him.
In post 331, Morning Tweet wrote:I think the case against Alo is not built very strong, but I don't think that in itself is scum indictative. Especially when that's in line with Wake making aggressive pushes
i still want to hear more about 304
What do you make about the point I brought up about Cake explaining the purpose of the protown statement before Alo's explanation and read over it?
Extends to anybody
I'm having trouble identifying which point you're referring to.
Why? I still don't understand how these reads work btw, do you feel S is more likely to be one side, or you just get the feeling their interactions are scummy in some way?
The latter. Sometimes there's more reasoning for it but it's too early here.
I interpreted this to mean that Cakez thinks one is scum but doesn't know which one.
Nothing wrong with ending RVS, but usually it's done organically.
I didn't see anything strained about Holden's posts.
You slammed on the brakes, saying stopping RVS was always pro-Town. Saying that Holden's posts were strained raised one of my eyebrows.
Making a point of saying that you're pro-Town raised both
.
I dont like this for the last part since in Cakes response to my post during the time he revealed he was making a general statement about ending RVS is protown. I agree the wording was a bit ambiguous at first (I thought he was saying that I thought he wasnt protown for doing it myself first time around), but it doesnt change the fact by the time this post came out it was clear what cake meant.
In post 125, HoldenGolden wrote:@sircake did I ever say it wasnt? Regardless of how pro town it is, that doesnt change the fact I want to see the thought process you put into it. I have an rough idea over the games I've played on how scum vs town approaches my playstyle. I do find the way you done it to be more of the latter, but I needed to understand what lead you there a bit more
I think you misunderstood my post. I was saying in general to the thread to move out of RVS is protown, it wasn't specifically directed at you.
I'm not sure what else to add to my description of my thought process here. I think 118 and 120 cover it.
I will agree that MT's vote reasoning was weird
You slammed on the brakes, saying stopping RVS was always pro-Town. Saying that Holden's posts were strained raised one of my eyebrows. Making a point of saying that you're pro-Town raised both.
I think it's likely that Alo was explaining why he felt that way at the time of 138, rather than stating that's how he still felt.
Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?
"Wake vs All may be TvS" implies that he thinks I'm Town and Alo's Scum. However, if that's incorrect I'd like Cakez to clarify that.
See I would agree with that if it wasn't for the responses about your interactions with Alo. Given those, I'm curious about which side seems scummy to him.
What responses do you mean? Cakes followup in 342 makes it pretty clear to me that he means he feels one is scum but not sure which.
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:08 pm
by bob3141
will catch up tommorrow
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:14 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 295, SirCakez wrote:I don't think Alo responds like this as scum
Hectic you can't have the meat
Oh I kinda see what you're saying now. Calling it "TvS" still implies to me he's seeing something kinda independent about this interaction that suggests one but not the other is scum without pointing to one directly
In post 276, Wake1 wrote:I don't recall getting an answer from Aloratom.
VOTE: Aloratom
What makes you think Alo not answering the question is a scum move?
I don't know whether it makes Hectic town or scum that he ignored my comment about him not inspiring confidence.
Evading a question, to me, is not Townish whatsoever.
It's Scummy behavior.
In a lot of situations yeah but aren't there also situations where it's just certain people's playstyles to avoid questions? I'm thinking like a RC-type player. What makes Alo's evasion scum here?
Theres also this comment too where Sircake has been debating Wake's vote on Alo due to not answering the question. That's why I'm interested because he seems to have some doubts on Wakes motives while also providing what seems a towny stance on Alo
Nothing wrong with ending RVS, but usually it's done organically.
I didn't see anything strained about Holden's posts.
You slammed on the brakes, saying stopping RVS was always pro-Town. Saying that Holden's posts were strained raised one of my eyebrows.
Making a point of saying that you're pro-Town raised both
.
I dont like this for the last part since in Cakes response to my post during the time he revealed he was making a general statement about ending RVS is protown. I agree the wording was a bit ambiguous at first (I thought he was saying that I thought he wasnt protown for doing it myself first time around), but it doesnt change the fact by the time this post came out it was clear what cake meant.
In post 125, HoldenGolden wrote:@sircake did I ever say it wasnt? Regardless of how pro town it is, that doesnt change the fact I want to see the thought process you put into it. I have an rough idea over the games I've played on how scum vs town approaches my playstyle. I do find the way you done it to be more of the latter, but I needed to understand what lead you there a bit more
I think you misunderstood my post. I was saying in general to the thread to move out of RVS is protown, it wasn't specifically directed at you.
I'm not sure what else to add to my description of my thought process here. I think 118 and 120 cover it.
I will agree that MT's vote reasoning was weird
You slammed on the brakes, saying stopping RVS was always pro-Town. Saying that Holden's posts were strained raised one of my eyebrows. Making a point of saying that you're pro-Town raised both.
I think it's likely that Alo was explaining why he felt that way at the time of 138, rather than stating that's how he still felt.
Oh shoot I got the ordering wrong as well. Cake didnt post his thing to me till afterwards *facepalm*
In post 331, Morning Tweet wrote:I think the case against Alo is not built very strong, but I don't think that in itself is scum indictative. Especially when that's in line with Wake making aggressive pushes
i still want to hear more about 304
What do you make about the point I brought up about Cake explaining the purpose of the protown statement before Alo's explanation and read over it?
Hmm, it's not in accordance to the players list on the first page. And I'm doubting the size thing = strength of read since the bbcode is specific to maintain the effect.
So im really perplex. How did I go from suspect to alright to second top town read?
I'm not entirely sure about this but I think the bigger names near the center are his townreads and the smaller ones at the end are his scumreads.
Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?
I lean that way a little bit. Wake's tons of questions without real content backing them up is kinda scummy. But it could also just be his playstyle. Also I don't TR Alo especially strongly.
Based on your questions back towards Wake you think wake is the scum in this exchange. I'm I correct in this? Or have you change from when you raised the counterpoint about playstyles and dodging questions?
"Wake vs All may be TvS" implies that he thinks I'm Town and Alo's Scum. However, if that's incorrect I'd like Cakez to clarify that.
It could be either way. Davesaz's 358 basically. Gosh you guys really got confused over my comment
Anyways I want to see more from Wake before voting there and Hectic just feels fake here. Like the early stuff ignoring my comment
I especially think that readslist is bs.
VOTE: hectic
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:04 pm
by SirCakez
I sense a lot of people in this game have defined playstyles and metas that I'm not aware of. So I might end up TRing or SRing people for non-AI stuff. Hopefully I catch on though.
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:05 pm
by SirCakez
*my comment towards Hectic is referring to my "Hectic is inspiring little confidence" post
Why? I still don't understand how these reads work btw, do you feel S is more likely to be one side, or you just get the feeling their interactions are scummy in some way?
The latter. Sometimes there's more reasoning for it but it's too early here.
I interpreted this to mean that Cakez thinks one is scum but doesn't know which one.
Well if he thinks that Aloratom/Wake is tvs, shouldn't he have some idea of which one is scum in that scenario? Otherwise it's just kind of a vague statement that doesn't really mean anything.
