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Italiano, I think it's totally fair that you feel that way and I'm fine with you leaving your vote on me. Feel free to ask me questions and I will continue to be honest and open.

I’m not denying it, I’m simply saying I feel the read can come from town as well, so I’m not gonna be comfortable voting or eliminating someone based on a read that I feel could come from town. That may not be the case in this meta, but I’m just telling you why I’m not doing it.

So you think it’s disingenuous to combine Shelly and red?

That’s fine.

Shelly has plagiarized red’s reads and posts. Red is agreeing with me On an actual thing that happened and supporting that with new evidence. It’s not as if red is copying what I’m saying, which is all Shelly is doing in those examples.

I definitely see what you’re saying, Red. So why did you do that, Shelly?

I think that it's ~2 AM wherever Shelly is, so she probably won't be able to respond right away.

True, but she’ll probably read through everything she missed once she checks the thread.

I'm glad we made it this far without needing a replacement. GeorgeBailey, will the day be extended for the replacement to catch up?

In post 357, Redados wrote:I'm glad we made it this far without needing a replacement. GeorgeBailey, will the day be extended for the replacement to catch up?

...That makes it sound like replacements are usually requested earlier in the first day phase. Is that true?

I haven't read a lot of games, but I read a game where three or four people had to be replaced on day one. It made everything much harder to keep track of and follow.

In post 357, Redados wrote:GeorgeBailey, will the day be extended for the replacement to catch up?

Sorry I have been inactive for quite a bit, starting new job with new hours and its been crazy.

In post 327, GeorgeBailey wrote:

Votecount 1.6

Redados(2)

~ ItalianoVD(46), N0bleNoob(17)

MiniMegabyte(2)

~ Micc(19), GeniusGamer(51)

Micc(2)

~ T-Bone(21), shellyc(39)

shellyc(1)

~ Porkens(54)

N0bleNoob(1)

~ Redados(37)


Not Voting (1): MiniMegabyte(27)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-24 16:20:10)

Well we have just under 3 days left now. We should probably move toward consolidating one or two wagons. I really do not feel like Redados is a good elimination today. I'm just OK with Mini. Micc I am not feeling at all. ShellyC and NobleNoob would be my top two choices.

So T-Bone, Italiano, and Noob can you make a compelling case why I should join your wagons? If not can I interest you in consolidating on either shelly or Noob?

I read the (completed) game Newbie 2005 in which ItalianoVD was town. He replaced in and immediately was lynched, but he posted a lot and it seems pretty similar to how he's been playing here.

I think that ItalianoVD is town.

This seems like a useful tool, albeit time-consuming. Do any SEs have advice for reading completed games to get information in this way?

Lots of people say they do it I personally don’t have the patience for it

In post 364, Redados wrote:I read the (completed) game Newbie 2005 in which ItalianoVD was town. He replaced in and immediately was lynched, but he posted a lot and it seems pretty similar to how he's been playing here.

I think that ItalianoVD is town.

This seems like a useful tool, albeit time-consuming. Do any SEs have advice for reading completed games to get information in this way?

The last game I played with Italiano he was town and acted the same as he is doing here so I agree with this based fully on my experience in the last game with him

In post 363, Porkens wrote:

In post 327, GeorgeBailey wrote:

Votecount 1.6

Redados(2)

~ ItalianoVD(46), N0bleNoob(17)

MiniMegabyte(2)

~ Micc(19), GeniusGamer(51)

Micc(2)

~ T-Bone(21), shellyc(39)

shellyc(1)

~ Porkens(54)

N0bleNoob(1)

~ Redados(37)


Not Voting (1): MiniMegabyte(27)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-24 16:20:10)

Well we have just under 3 days left now. We should probably move toward consolidating one or two wagons. I really do not feel like Redados is a good elimination today. I'm just OK with Mini. Micc I am not feeling at all. ShellyC and NobleNoob would be my top two choices.

So T-Bone, Italiano, and Noob can you make a compelling case why I should join your wagons? If not can I interest you in consolidating on either shelly or Noob?

I don’t really feel we should eliminate noob because they are being replaced

That’s fine, and I’m looking forward to seeing what the replacements have to offer. My general message still stands though: I think it’s time to consolidate on 1 or 2 folks we can come to some compromise on.

Meta is trash. But I'll qualify it by saying it's a worse and worse tool the more experienced the player you're trying to analyze.

As for consolidation, I'll see what Micc's replacement has before I start sniffing around other wagons. I still think the slot is scum at this point.

Hmm. I think MiniMegabyte is starting to reveal her opinions instead of rehashing what was already said, and those opinions are giving me a town vibe. I’m going to retract my vote for now. Porkens is right though. We definitely need to come to a decision on who to eliminate.

UNVOTE: MiniMegabyte

In post 352, Porkens wrote:That’s fine.

Shelly has plagiarized red’s reads and posts. Red is agreeing with me On an actual thing that happened and supporting that with new evidence. It’s not as if red is copying what I’m saying, which is all Shelly is doing in those examples.

In post 350, Redados wrote:Italiano, I think it's totally fair that you feel that way and I'm fine with you leaving your vote on me. Feel free to ask me questions and I will continue to be honest and open.

In post 363, Porkens wrote:

In post 327, GeorgeBailey wrote:

Votecount 1.6

Redados(2)

~ ItalianoVD(46), N0bleNoob(17)

MiniMegabyte(2)

~ Micc(19), GeniusGamer(51)

Micc(2)

~ T-Bone(21), shellyc(39)

shellyc(1)

~ Porkens(54)

N0bleNoob(1)

~ Redados(37)


Not Voting (1): MiniMegabyte(27)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-24 16:20:10)

Well we have just under 3 days left now. We should probably move toward consolidating one or two wagons. I really do not feel like Redados is a good elimination today. I'm just OK with Mini. Micc I am not feeling at all. ShellyC and NobleNoob would be my top two choices.

So T-Bone, Italiano, and Noob can you make a compelling case why I should join your wagons? If not can I interest you in consolidating on either shelly or Noob?

In post 350, Redados wrote:Italiano, I think it's totally fair that you feel that way and I'm fine with you leaving your vote on me. Feel free to ask me questions and I will continue to be honest and open.

It’s not that I don’t trust you and that I think you’re being dishonest. I think you are being honest, I just think you’re honestly scum.

In post 352, Porkens wrote:That’s fine.

Shelly has plagiarized red’s reads and posts. Red is agreeing with me On an actual thing that happened and supporting that with new evidence. It’s not as if red is copying what I’m saying, which is all Shelly is doing in those examples.

The fact that you are okay with Red sheeping you but not okay with Shelly sheeping red is why it’s disingenuous to me. Not understanding why you think he’s not copying. The context of the game says otherwise.

In post 363, Porkens wrote:So T-Bone, Italiano, and Noob can you make a compelling case why I should join your wagons? If not can I interest you in consolidating on either shelly or Noob?

Well seeing as both Micc and N0bleNoob are replacing out I’d give their replacements a moment to catch up and see if I/we feel any differently about the slots. With that said, I’ve already said that I wouldn’t vote for Shellyc. If she is scum, I would be surprised. I could be convinced to vote Noobs slot later on, but not today. I’ve also laid out why I’m voting Redados. And why do you think Redados would not be a good elimination? Maybe I’ve missed it.

Sorry for the extra quotes at the top. I thought I cleared them out.