Newbie 2027 | Doggos | Town Win

[Noraa]

Posting is good but that's an easy thing for scum to do to seem townie. I'm still having paranoia about PlusJoy and Noraa

Disagree. If they are scum lurking, they are probably newbies who have no idea of what to say and are afraid of being SR. If they start panicking that will reinforce this idea. So it's good to SR them right now so we can get info out of them no matter what their alignment is.

I'd imagine an apathetic townie doubling down on the lurk or put some effort into looking town.

i disagree

for newbie games, playing scum is fun and that's what you

want to do

. you get excited and all you think about is the game, so you come on and check constantly and play and have fun

i feel like it's semi-rare to see noob scum lurking, let alone 2

huh both sides seem to make sense to me. idk where I stand in this anymore

[PlusJOYED]

Posting is good but that's an easy thing for scum to do to seem townie. I'm still having paranoia about PlusJoy and Noraa

Disagree. If they are scum lurking, they are probably newbies who have no idea of what to say and are afraid of being SR. If they start panicking that will reinforce this idea. So it's good to SR them right now so we can get info out of them no matter what their alignment is.

I'd imagine an apathetic townie doubling down on the lurk or put some effort into looking town.

i disagree

for newbie games, playing scum is fun and that's what you

want to do

. you get excited and all you think about is the game, so you come on and check constantly and play and have fun

i feel like it's semi-rare to see noob scum lurking, let alone 2

I dislike this logic even though it is probably correct since it makes me look scummy and that interferes with my LAMIST

[EchoVision]

alright well look i can't just type 349 up then

not

steal page top...

also since i have page top i can publicly say nika stop playing the game like an ass and do something please. you signed up and committed to this, don't ruin it for everybody else. if you've got stuff going on, that's a different thing but v/la's and stuff exist for a reason. if you're just not feelin the game or don't want to contribute, there are other things that you can do than not post, not read, and when you do post, just post non-content fillers so that you don't get replaced out.

p-edit fuck you guys you took my page top assholes

[EchoVision]

I dislike this logic even though it is probably correct since it makes me look scummy and that interferes with my LAMIST

don't you worry sugar tits there's more in the way of your lamist than that

[PlusJOYED]

see that's where saying "no offense" comes in handy

[PlusJOYED]

I dislike this logic even though it is probably correct since it makes me look scummy and that interferes with my LAMIST

don't you worry sugar tits there's more in the way of your lamist than that

can i have a hint so I can lamist better?
pleeeeease?

[Noraa]

Lol everytime Echo comes in everything's so damn funny. frfr we needa make him look scum that way we can keep him in the game for longer.

[Noraa]

I dislike this logic even though it is probably correct since it makes me look scummy and that interferes with my LAMIST

don't you worry sugar tits there's more in the way of your lamist than that

can i have a hint so I can lamist better?
pleeeeease?

shouldn't y'all pm or something cuz uh if echo says it here, it ain't gonna help anyone I don't think

[Noraa]

also HA I got page top

[EchoVision]

Lol everytime Echo comes in everything's so damn funny. frfr we needa make him look scum that way we can keep him in the game for longer.

yeah i'm garb at mafia as a whole but i'm fun
unless i'm tunneling you bc i get pissy and moody but nobody's really pissing me off this game so that's good

i'm just here to kick some mafia and chew some ass and we're all out of bubble gum

[Noraa]

T^T honest opinion do I still sound like a noob? I mean I got a hang of the whole quoting a shit ton of posts things ... pretty fast I would say. The rest uh yeah no just pretend all the stupid sounding posts didn't exist lol

[Noraa]

*thing
bruh I needa start proofreading

[PlusJOYED]

I dislike this logic even though it is probably correct since it makes me look scummy and that interferes with my LAMIST

don't you worry sugar tits there's more in the way of your lamist than that

can i have a hint so I can lamist better?
pleeeeease?

shouldn't y'all pm or something cuz uh if echo says it here, it ain't gonna help anyone I don't think

pms are against the rules for discussing games

[PlusJOYED]

T^T honest opinion do I still sound like a noob? I mean I got a hang of the whole quoting a shit ton of posts things ... pretty fast I would say. The rest uh yeah no just pretend all the stupid sounding posts didn't exist lol

yes but i can see the effort! keep going!

[Frogsterking]

Nikahang has been prodded

VOTE: ShellNyc

VOTE: ShellYc

Nikahang has been prodded,
shoulda done that ages ago but I derped

/\/\@f1@ = Mafia
9001\15 = goons
54y = say
vv|-|A+ = what
found one scum, now you can claim who your partner is to make this quicker.
VOTE: shellyc

(VOTE: Sceptorusyeah i know this wasnt the best execution for this joke but I WAS GETTING IMPATIENT DAMNIT)

My pure town energy will prove you wrong; not to worry. Good joke by the way.

I agree. He is part of town

I am voting

lurker confirmed. it's happened twice. Both times he was prodded and both times he jumped on the wagon to eliminate shelly(except his first vote was invalid). Jumping on the wagon isn't that sus tbh cuz I do understand the arguments on why shelly is sus but each time he's prodded, he immediately posts something which confirms he's lurking and that's pretty sus.

Lmao what a character. I don't think that Nikahang's strange behavior is really indicative of an alignment. I'm just going to nominate them to be our town ghost. There's a high chance they will be replaced out at some point in the game.

[Noraa]

I dislike this logic even though it is probably correct since it makes me look scummy and that interferes with my LAMIST

don't you worry sugar tits there's more in the way of your lamist than that

can i have a hint so I can lamist better?
pleeeeease?

shouldn't y'all pm or something cuz uh if echo says it here, it ain't gonna help anyone I don't think

pms are against the rules for discussing games

Oh dang welp I didn't know that so uh pretend I didn't suggest that and I will keep that in mind

[Noraa]

T^T honest opinion do I still sound like a noob? I mean I got a hang of the whole quoting a shit ton of posts things ... pretty fast I would say. The rest uh yeah no just pretend all the stupid sounding posts didn't exist lol

yes but i can see the effort! keep going!

lol thnx that was said very kindly

[Frogsterking]

In my opinion shelly isn't very readable as evidenced by the first game she played she won mostly on her own, and she did jump on that bandwagon which was taking off at the time in a lobby she knew could be impulsive and result in a hammer. This makes her a good candidate for me to vote so far, but I'm going to refrain from voting her for the above reason (I'm afraid if I check in tomorrow it will result in a hammer before we've used all the time allotted to us to scum hunt in D1.)

[Noraa]

In my opinion shelly isn't very readable as evidenced by the first game she played she won mostly on her own, and she did jump on that bandwagon which was taking off at the time in a lobby she knew could be impulsive and result in a hammer. This makes her a good candidate for me to vote so far, but I'm going to refrain from voting her for the above reason (I'm afraid if I check in tomorrow it will result in a hammer before we've used all the time allotted to us to scum hunt in D1.)

How tf do u "win a game on ur own"? Did all the town die day 1 and 2 or somethin?

[Noraa]

Oh wait I'm stupid it prolly means she was mafia and her partner got herself eliminated fast

[Noraa]

Lol I needa talk less. I always sound so stupid lmaooooo

[PlusJOYED]

Nikahang has been prodded

VOTE: ShellNyc

VOTE: ShellYc

Nikahang has been prodded,
shoulda done that ages ago but I derped

/\/\@f1@ = Mafia
9001\15 = goons
54y = say
vv|-|A+ = what
found one scum, now you can claim who your partner is to make this quicker.
VOTE: shellyc

(VOTE: Sceptorusyeah i know this wasnt the best execution for this joke but I WAS GETTING IMPATIENT DAMNIT)

My pure town energy will prove you wrong; not to worry. Good joke by the way.

I agree. He is part of town

I am voting

lurker confirmed. it's happened twice. Both times he was prodded and both times he jumped on the wagon to eliminate shelly(except his first vote was invalid). Jumping on the wagon isn't that sus tbh cuz I do understand the arguments on why shelly is sus but each time he's prodded, he immediately posts something which confirms he's lurking and that's pretty sus.

Lmao what a character. I don't think that Nikahang's strange behavior is really indicative of an alignment. I'm just going to nominate them to be our town ghost. There's a high chance they will be replaced out at some point in the game.

it's against the rules to suggest someone replace out so I'll watch my language here, but on the offchance they don't replace out, they are a huge vulnerability during a lylo situation, especially if we don't know what they will do, regardless of alignment, as scum will likely keep them alive if they aren't scum. So even if it may be scummy to do so, I refuse to ignore them.

[Frogsterking]

Shallow meta diving shelly, her tone is more serious as scum, which i think reflects her play here, whereas as town she is more informal relaxed and jokey.

I think in this case this argument is as worthy of the depth of its dive.

UNVOTE: echo
VOTE: sirius
I'd like to put more pressure on sirius to see what they do

Okay this is helpful.

Ig that's just posting style then

What does this refer to?

Ig that's just posting style then

What does this refer to?

chains of posts. I haven't seen any so far besides 72offsuit's so I thought they were sus but it seems it's just posting style

Yeah I think we're often tempted to read certain posting styles in different directions. I think unusual styles of posting that are confusing or seem disorganized are very tempting to read as scum.

I was going to agree that 72offuit's post didn't prove what it concluded so it was confusing. But then I just wanted to check to see if I understood PlusJOYED's post correctly.

yeah that was regarding shellys post. The wording came across as a lil scummy but could be nothing.

Wouldn't be surprised at all if the scumduo is Shelly+Plus. Back and forth discussion just for the sake of it.

@72offsuit

I think this is interesting and I'd like to hear more about your theory on this if you still agree with it, and otherwise I'd like to hear why you changed your mind.

Subject to change, but for now:
slight town lean: froster (effort to scumhunt), echo (effort to scumhunt)
null: shelly, noraa, 720
sligh scum lean: sirius (for reasons stated earlier), scepterous (has made 1 post that basically said "I agree with everyone so far"), niaking (active lurking)

I understand frosters FoS on 720 but they could just been wanting to pressure shelly and not, ya know, hammer them. But hasn't been really pro town yet. Would prefer to exert pressure on Sirius, sceptorous, or niaking. Anyone wanna join? Though I'll be unvoting at E-1 unless they prove to act very scummy since I don't wanna hammer yet.

@Frog - your thoughts on Plus' readslist?

I'm assuming here you're referring to the quote above, 155.

I think it could be real or made up, at this point in the game it's probably real because most of us are town.

I wanted to point out that PLUS's description of Nikahang's behavior is inaccurate, and if you are playing in this game and self-identify as a newbie wanting to learn more, like Nora, I want you to read the link below, because active lurking is a very legitimate scum tell but NikaHang's behavior is not representative of what active lurking is.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ve_Lurking

Active lurking is a very different concept altogether than lurking. Active lurking is much more of a scum tell, though some players act this way even if they're town, particularly if they're extraverted and low conscientiousness.

Lurking is a much more complex concept that's ultimately more NAI and maybe easiest to understand if you study marketing. Here's a link to the mafiascum wiki article on lurking I'd suggest reading only if you would like to improve further on your reads:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lurking

I believe that lurking is NAI for many reasons, one is that I think some players will just play this way purely because they are introverted, especially if they are new.

There's a set of similar concepts I want to point out in a different wiki below. The concepts I wanted to point out are coasting, blending, deflecting, and tunneling. Coasting and blending are very similar concepts to active lurking, in fact, I suspect that they are all different ways of describing the same concept. Deflecting and tunneling are each different concepts that are also important to know because they are also legitimate scum tells.

https://mafiagg.fandom.com/wiki/Abbreviations

Something that each of these four concepts have in common is that if you're a liar these behaviors are slightly easier to fake than others.

Another concept I believe is important is that if you ever take an improv class, you might notice that the emotion of anger is easier to fake than others as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anger

I think when we run out of things to say it's easier to disguise our difficulty coming up with words to say by becoming very angry with something the other person has said. I believe passive-aggression or sarcasm is easy to fake as well both IRL and online because you can just repeat the words back with a question mark?

[Noraa]

Bro school already has my brain fried these articles are not helping lol. It's confusing imo but I think im getting the gist of it. So basically its the opposite of what I said before. Nikahang isn't sus but sceptorus is for making an excuse as to why he hasn't been posting. Ig sure but like that excuse is pretty real and valid imo.

[Noraa]

Tbh I don't agree that shelly and plus are scum just bc my gut tells me that maybe one of them is scum but no way both of them r. Then again I dont think I have good reads anyways but I would also like to hear more from 72 about why. Since just the long convo between the two doesn't mean anything imo.