FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt (Game Over!)

[Servant Lancer]

Last night, I realized I was responding to Moon Cancer like their suspicion of me is coming from town. This morning, I'm not trusting that instinctual reaction so much. I'm sitting on a null town take.

This sticks out to me as something I don't think I've seen town bring up before, but also as something scum just doesn't bring up at all. Unless Alter Ego was getting some sort of pushback for treating Moon Cancer as town, this isn't something I see scum allowing to make it to the thread.

[Servant Assassin]

It factored into the read degradation. It struck me as odd that they wouldn't just explain why they'd decided to vote Avenger. Even if it was some small reason they had to have SOME reason to swap votes. It got worse as they talked to Assassin.

There's that. But, it also looked like one of those things that would be really easy to just let the townie have as scum as opposed to holding back. Reading back through the thread tonight, it made me wonder if my townread should have softened as much as it did later.

Do you want the master upgrade?

The reason was Avenger sounded town. I just liked their posts on gut, then their reaction to my vote and how they were playing and wanted to see how voting there would go. Assassin's trying to dig for something more and drawing this dichotomy between Berserker and Avenger in order to refute it pinged hard. Them both having the same read on Player didn't factor in.

but you claimed you liked avenger's "early sorting" so what was it they said that you liked if the read didn't factor in

[Servant Lancer]

That he was sorting at all.

[Servant Assassin]

That he was sorting at all.

but then what did he say that was notable, what stood out to you exactly, what differentiated him from anyone else with early game reads

[Servant Lancer]

Early game reads don't get a blanket tr. I liked his posting the most out of the early game, I got good gut feelings about the way he jumped into the sorting and his tone, and I liked his response to my TR. That's literally all. I think it's obvious I didn't like Berserker's approach initially so why would I TR that?

[Servant Assassin]

lol okay it should not be that hard to point out what you liked but that you're having this much difficulty shows it was not a read based on anything real

[Servant Lancer]

Okay I've literally talked about everything, what are you even talking about?

[Servant Lancer]

You keep moving the goalposts away from the actual question of why I TR Avenger. I told you. Then you nitpick. So I elaborate, then you say I can't like his early sorting because other players also were? Of course they were, I liked how he did his. It was also a really early read from like page 3 so the fact that you're harping on it so hard when it's really fucking obvious where I got the read from is just unbelievable to me if you're town.

[Servant Caster]

I have been suspicious of Lancer, but I concur that 355 seems a bit extreme.

[Servant Assassin]

You keep moving the goalposts away from the actual question of why I TR Avenger. I told you. Then you nitpick. So I elaborate, then you say I can't like his early sorting because other players also were? Of course they were, I liked how he did his. It was also a really early read from like page 3 so the fact that you're harping on it so hard when it's really fucking obvious where I got the read from is just unbelievable to me if you're town.

yes it's obvious you just made it up based on appearances and when asked to justify it with literally anything specific

you cannot do it because it was not a real read

[Servant Lancer]

Saber, can you go more into your Caster TR? I get why you unvoted Alter Ego if they said they don't want the Master (I'm reading piecemeal) .
I really don't agree with using the master vote to sort what sounds like only gutreads.

[Servant Lancer]

yes it's obvious you just made it up based on appearances and when asked to justify it with literally anything specific you cannot do it because it was not a real read

How is "he responded well to my vote" not specific? How much more specific do you expect people to be about a read like this? It'd be one thing if you thought he was scummy but you're literally going after something you know I can't defend very strongly because it was the earliest of reads imaginable based on good feelings from Avenger's opener and how he approached what little solving was available.

This is why I said I wasn't willing to towncase. There was almost nothing to towncase yet. I can only elaborate so much.

[Servant Assassin]

VOTE: Avenger

Thanks.

He voted town tho, that’s very anti-scum of him.

how is this a good response lmao

[Servant Lancer]

What's your read on Avenger?

[Servant Ruler]

I'll read up over the next day or so but don't really expect commentary on much prior to my rep in. This is just an extra phase and things lined up so that the chance of me gaining master is pretty nil by virtue of the replacement.

[Servant Lancer]

Do you not care about the result of this phase if you're not master?

[Servant Ruler]

That's not really relevant to my position which I acknowledge. I'd be campaigning against an inevitability. Any town getting the master serves my wincon all the same.

[Servant Caster]

I wouldn't count you out from master, there is plenty of time left and your predecessor was fine.

[Servant Ruler]

There is an implicit bias, plus I'm essentially a whole new slot where there are already established reads that are going to be stronger. It isn't a big deal to me, I could use it but I'm sure every other town slot can as well.

[Servant Archer]

Sorry, I haven't been around much lately. I'll try to catchup later tonight.

[Servant Caster]

Okay, refuse to play the game then.

[Servant Ruler]

VOTE: Caster

Because not attempting to get this one thing that is a benefit to town regardless of what townie has it is the same as not playing at all.

[Servant Ruler]

That's not right UNVOTE:

HURT: Caster

[Servant Caster]

No, refusing to comment on the last 15 pages is not playing at all.

[Servant Ruler]

As opposed to the 45 potential pages of this phase that I'll be present for.

That molehill looks mighty tall.