Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [scum pt]

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menal im hurt I hope this is not scum you again.

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Also, fact of the matter is that you can not believe that I won the game with that lylo, but the fact that I /did/ means I was correct in my reading of the situation of that being a winning lylo for me

Like you can view it as being ridiculously lucky, sure, or you can view it as me having understood my position in the game relative to icon and micc so well as to know that icon would /still/ vote micc over me even with everything mechanical pointing to me. This is why mechanical plays are fundamentally weaker when you’re not going up against a mechanical player.

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Shelly, I’m inclined to not use my rolestop because while I think every PR is probably out at this point, the only think I see as being likely to be left is a tracker maaaaybe and seeing as I think I’m in a better position to final 3 I don’t think it’s worth taking the risk of getting tracked to a visit on you especially when town knows a rolestopper exists

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If you think there’s a v compelling reason for me to do that anyway then lmk otherwise I think it’s best that I stay inactive tonight

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I also... kind of want to kill Taylor tonight?

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Actually yeah

shelly kills taylor

Pencilling this in for now, let’s talk

I think Taylor is about to start re-evaluating and has previously showed more suspicion on both of us than Andres, who i think is likely to pursue in osuka/plus tomorrow and still think we’re town

If we let him lead on osuka then kill him then we get to a plus/ydra/math/you/me gylo which I think is prob ideal

I could see either of ydrasse or math voting plus there, but I could also see plus or ydrasse voting math which gives us our backup option

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My only concern is if Andres realises he’s being left alive to pursue the wrong thing and re-evaluates the game early

It may also be wise to do some VCA to make sure that neither of us starts to stand out too much after either of those kills, but I think bob was the last real VCA player left in the PL

[Datisi]

Actually yeah

shelly kills taylor

noted.

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Oh, and ALSO Andres looks worse after quick hammering bob if we ever do find ourselves needing to fight him vs Taylor who’s conf!town

[shellyc]

okay

if no rolestop in case theres a tracker or something can you do the kill since theres a 1% chance you get tracker

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My objection to that is I might as well just do the kill if I’m going to move at night at all

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Oh nice Taylor was JK

That prob is the last of the town power

I knew it was too good to be true to believe that this would actually be a balanced setup >.>

[shellyc]

YESSSSS WE HIT THE JK

[Menalque]

If you are scum mena, then bravo, you deserve this W.

thanks plus! let's see if shelly and I can make it happen!

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The fact that a lot of slots want him dead for info makes me think that one of them is trying to set up a chainelim day 3 of {me, osuka, bob} in any order.

this was a very astute take btw plus, and in future you should chase those thoughts more: who stands to benefit from chaining that sort of thing and who is positioned to take advantage of it when you feel like it's happening

actually flipping osuka today probably fits very well with an agenda of flipping bob tomorrow > plus as well

but like I think bob is probably misguillo-able in 5p too? he's very solid but he has trouble convincing others of what he's figured out and often comes across as scummy because of his communication style. his bad luck that he got into a tiff with teacher too, which sets him up nicely

ideally in GYLO you wanna bring two players who are good candidates. you bring one who looks very scummy and one who looks scummy but it's not so obvious. then the ideal is that you kind of hedge a little on the super scummy one (this is how I do it anyway) in case someone speed votes them and you can just quickhammer and win, suggest maybe its more complicated and push the other one, plus throw some shade on your partner just in case things go to shit and you need to make it one more day

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The wincon is throwing me off of ydrasse, and setting up chain elims with (me, bob, osuka)

you have a tone of being defensive and are outraged but you're producing no arguments why you can't be scum, and instead trying to get me killed

i am outraged because you're refusing to do something that should by all means be beneficial to you! how am i supposed to defend myself, anyways, against a case that you haven't even produced?

i am trying to get you killed because your logic is horrendous at this point and i don't think it's in a townie way.

your plan is to mislim me and osuka consecutively.

Ahh you’re literally so close plus!

Like I’d be rooting for you so hard to realise that you have the plan right but the scum wrong if I were modding this instead of playing against you

May i say now tho that I think you have a lot of promise whatever the outcome of this game is and hope that if it is a win for red team and a loss for green team that you don’t take it too hard!

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I wonder if datisi is supporting town this game instead of scum

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I feel like probably yes is the answer but we’ll see

[Datisi]

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Will be interesting reading the mod pt for sure

I’m really okay with this game however it goes

I feel like I’ve played well, I think shelly played well, I think kerset played well

If town manage to dig themselves out and see the truth then fair play and well done. Obv I’ll do my best to prevent that happening but if it does *shrug*

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I’ll only admit that I played badly if NDmath is a tracker who guilties one of us tomorrow

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Also, @shelly there is one /mild/ issue we gotta talk about, namely the problem of me being alive tomorrow

Rn I’m probably on course to look the towniest coming out of the end of the day but stillllll after Andres having demanded an osuka flip (which is what I’m planning to ultimately back probably) he looks... questionable and people might ask tomorrow why he wasn’t killed>me

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I think I may insist that Andres can only be scum with osuka? And that this only makes sense as a bus to try to win the game, otherwise he wouldn’t insist so hard on it being the right thing today when plus is on the table

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I think I’m gonna go with that unless you hit me back here saying you think it’s a terrible idea

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fuck this lylo is lining up too well, people gonna be hella susp tomorrow regardless of who we flip today