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In post 121, Ydrasse wrote:i have a slight tr on shelly for 112; reading it, it seems like shelly's process to reach a bm tr was natural.

however, i want to ask: shelly, what's your opinion on 76? it looks like you might've missed it and it renders your point about the claim being towny null.

this is ydrasses only ever read and it’s probably outdated (since she now puts me at null)

I haven’t really seen the actual efforts from you 2 that I’ve seen from Ydrasse, despite you being the top 2 posters

sigh you need to rethink effort

I am pushing ydrasse, I am engaging with you, I am trying to figure out why you townread ydrasse and infer your alignment

if you think effort = town you also need to rethink things, in a strict sense effort is NAI

like you just found a really lazy reason to discredit my push and im disppointed that nobody sees what I see

I guess at this point yes you have shown such effort, but at that point I hadn’t really seen it from you

also, backtracking on golden isn’t essentially the greatest look ever

can we shift the convo back to ydrasse: why do you think ydrasse high efforting this is town!AI especially with this cool plist
Do you acknowledge that ydrasse isnt trying to solve, they’re trying to prod mini into talking and after mini talks, they don’t make a read on mini or give their thoughts at all

In post 281, MiniMegabyte wrote:

In post 152, shellyc wrote:no I don’t believe that at all

VOTE: Ydrasse

VOTE: Ydrasse

VOTE: Ydrasse

I hardclaim town multitasking triplevoter jailkeeper vigilante daycop and ydrasse returned red

Nope. I dont like this. To me doesnt seem very townlike

In post 286, MiniMegabyte wrote:

In post 192, shellyc wrote:as scum it is possible to win by fluffposting and exaggerating your contributions to the gamestate. and posting pages of lamisty stuff. ive done that once

pedit: hyperbole isnt a very good strategy either

This is what you seem to be doing

VOTE: Shelly

feels like a stretch

at the momet i feel shelly can go in the town pile

The stale wagons most likely mean that scum really have not been throwing their votes around. If scum had been pushing to form wagons we would have got wagons as they can form even from all town votes. So by vote count 1.2 i would say shelly is town as she has failed to make any headway on forming a true wagon. Could also indicate that dong is town too as otherwise scum would have likely gravitated towards it. If it was town + scum, it would have probably got picked up a third vote.


No at that point could the shelly wagon be the same. With the wagon situation no way are both osuka and pooky scum. So at least one town in that bunch. Now this wagon has since picked up another vote from 2 more votes. Which most likely makes this scum motivated wagon.

Osuka, pooky, golden, mini

Now. Is it composed of one or two scum. On that point i think it's too early to say.

look bob speaks sense. im like, obvtown with the wagons but I cant explain things clearly and that’s my downfall
let me analyse the pushes on me for a minute
golden misrepped and I never backtracked on ydrasse
megabyte says im “FLUFFPOSTING” and uses “shelly rolls scum a shit ton and therefore they’re scum” what tf is that?
osuka is RVS
pooky is apparently because I used the word stats

megabyte / ydrasse contains scum for one, I can see ydrasse telling inactive partner to speak up but throughout there’s no read on mini. I could also see town!mini scum!ydrasse with the effort to make a read from mini (albeit a bad one)
golden is a null, slight gut townlean, I think the misrep was not intentional tbh and spotting it is indicative of solving
I have a lingering scumread with gamma, that interaction with gamma shifting towards me instead of interacting about ydrasse is weird
bob is town. dong is town. osuka is prooooobably town. pooky is a huge null
nothing to say about the rest of the people

oh I missed a couple of reads
BM is proooooobably town for early mini push trying to further the gamestate
and mizzytastic is locked scum, no content in that ISO

@bob according to your wagonomics what do you think ydrasses alignment is? I see no comment about ydrasse there

I’m thinking if this is a warlock or something with the hostility towards me hmmmmm

I think im 5dchessing myself here but spitballing my thoughts, the effort from bob with analysis is probably town!AI

In post 361, shellyc wrote:@bob according to your wagonomics what do you think ydrasses alignment is? I see no comment about ydrasse there

I’m thinking if this is a warlock or something with the hostility towards me hmmmmm

I think im 5dchessing myself here but spitballing my thoughts, the effort from bob with analysis is probably town!AI

nothing can realy be determined alignment based on current gamstate. could go either way. Scum not pushing scum or scum choosing to push another town wagon are equally likely

In post 231, shellyc wrote:ftr fence-sitting is quite the newbscum tell so don’t know what to make out of this yet

do you have any more, no matter if they are alignment indicative or reads or what not, thoughts on the interactions?

In post 335, shellyc wrote:ah, the classic fence-sit (which isnt AI especially this early on tbh)

look @mini everyone can clearly see you’re bullshitting and if you’re town you need to seriously reconsider

nobody on this plist has played with town!me I think

this feels weird to me. "fencesitting is newbscum" to "fence setting isn't AI - especially this early on", where "especially" here implies that fence sitting is NAI in general.

In post 355, shellyc wrote:also, backtracking on golden isn’t essentially the greatest look ever

can we shift the convo back to ydrasse: why do you think ydrasse high efforting this is town!AI especially with this cool plist
Do you acknowledge that ydrasse isnt trying to solve, they’re trying to prod mini into talking and after mini talks, they don’t make a read on mini or give their thoughts at all

gamma has made it quite clear that that was a typo and they don't actually have a read on me, you should probably reread this.

I think Bob is scum.

nah I changed my mind. UNVOTE:

also, did you win mini normal 2148?

I think it's Mini.

VOTE: Mini

In post 366, Battle Mage wrote:nah I changed my mind. UNVOTE:

also, did you win mini normal 2148?

why do you ask bm. As i thought you would know that one. After all it was game you were scum too

In post 368, bob3141 wrote:

In post 366, Battle Mage wrote:nah I changed my mind. UNVOTE:

also, did you win mini normal 2148?

why do you ask bm. As i thought you would know that one. After all it was game you were scum too

thats exactly why i asked! it's not on my games played list - if we won, i'll add it. if we lost...i'll discount all the games I repped out.

we won

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