Imagine Dunn and I are scum together. What in the world is this elaborate song and dance? He's already dead.
Imagine I am scum and Dunn is town. What in the world is this elaborate song and dance? I've already got him.
Imagine I am town and Dunn's alignment is unknown to me. Look at his play. Listen to what I am saying about what I've seen in the neighborhood thread. Who cares whether the odds say in 9-games-out-of-10 Dunn is town? This is the 10th game. I can think of no explanation for Dunn's behavior from a town perspective. Not one single reason. If I am a townread of his, as he's just said, and he was some PR lying low, he could have told me. Hell, I basically asked him that, days ago.
@TGP
Imagine the absurdity of me lying to town-Dunn from the beginning of the game that I have that probability information about him, then at the end of the day breadcrumbing that role information, and then him outing it to protect himself. Why, as scum, would I do that? Why bother telling him anything about my role at all?
And this is really the most important point. Because there is no reason to believe Dunn is town. You can have a scumread on me, but it doesn't make sense that I am scum and he is town. Therefore, it is better to eliminate him today, because you will get more information that if you eliminate me. Tomorrow I am not going to get away from you easily, worry about whether we are a possible team AFTER you have cleared the most likely member.
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:26 am
by Dunnstral
I thought we just established that I'm not the most likely member
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:27 am
by NicCage
How?
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:48 am
by SKYEscrapers
wait, so why does dunn have to be scum for you to be scum nic?
The Empress
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:00 am
by NicCage
In post 357, SKYEscrapers wrote:wait, so why does dunn have to be scum for you to be scum nic?
The Empress
Suppose I am scum. Think about the sequence of events that would have had to occurred with my partial roleclaim.
1. I lied to Dunn privately that I had mod-given info about his alignment
2. When we are getting close to his elimination, I breadcrummed the informed part of my fakeclaim
3. Dunn outs my breadcrumb because the probability adds a little support to his innocence
Why would I:
1. Lie in the first place about being informed
2. Even bother to breadcrumb that
It doesn’t make sense from a scum perspective, when there are far better and less complicated things I could have done.
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:13 am
by SKYEscrapers
i think i want to do dunnstral.
sorry i'm not all that engaged right now. this happens with me sometimes, but i'll find my way back.
The Empress
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:16 am
by SKYEscrapers
i wonder what the 10% is based on? some kind of process in the setup creation?
The Empress
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:29 am
by NicCage
Btw I was wrong earlier, Dunn was not at DD-1 with my vote. Currently he is at DD-3, because both TGP and Thomas unvoted.
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:47 am
by NicCage
In post 360, SKYEscrapers wrote:i wonder what the 10% is based on? some kind of process in the setup creation?
The Empress
In my rolepm it says it was done by dice roll.
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:58 am
by schadd_
Spoiler:
vote count 1.5
Dunnstral (2):
Akarin, mastina
TheGoldenParadox (1):
SKYEscrapers
Gypyx (1):
PlusJOYED
Akarin (1):
Gypyx
mastina (1):
Dunnstral
NicCage (1):
TheGoldenParadox
not voting (2):
DoubtingThomas, NicCage
with 9 alive, it takes 5 to Perform a Dastardly Deed. day 1 ends november 9th at 10:50 central US time; in (expired on 2020-11-09 10:50:00)
seeking replacement for plusjoyed; this will incur a deadline extension
yeah
it's unproductive and probably inaccurate
but it's not the kind of thing i see scum doing
also don't see scum making 317 (although it's gross and you should be ashamed of yourself) and generally playing as you have; you seem genuine and bold.
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:22 am
by TheGoldenParadox
^sorry that was a reply to 349
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:57 am
by SKYEscrapers
VOTE: dunnstral
NicCage wrote:
In post 360, SKYEscrapers wrote:i wonder what the 10% is based on? some kind of process in the setup creation?
The Empress
In my rolepm it says it was done by dice roll.
this makes me think the 3rd party thing is unlikely, or maybe he left a fundamental aspect to the game up to a die roll? that's not impossible i suppose
The Empress
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:03 am
by SKYEscrapers
actually, UNVOTE:
dunnstral is town actually maybe?
VOTE: plus can we do this? what do people think of this?
Honestly, this post is just to claim the pagetop, but what part of Tris' post is so Alien to you? Why do you think it is scum?
Perhaps you'll be able to rrad me better at least
- Ari
this kinda pings my gut though I have trouble explaining why
ehhhh VOTE: skye
really townreading plusjoyed from this opening
to respond to 368 they entered feeling quite earnest and genuine to me and haven't done anything to change that perception
definitely not feeling a plus lim
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:09 am
by SKYEscrapers
i don't want to do that. i'm leaning towards him being town. there
is
something about his tone that comes off as "i'm trying to convince you that i'm town". but, i think that's just how he is.
The Empress
pedit: @369
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:12 am
by SKYEscrapers
ugh, this is another place where ari disagrees with, or at least he did way back on the 31st. (about plus)
Honestly, this post is just to claim the pagetop, but what part of Tris' post is so Alien to you? Why do you think it is scum?
Perhaps you'll be able to rrad me better at least
- Ari
this kinda pings my gut though I have trouble explaining why
ehhhh VOTE: skye
really townreading plusjoyed from this opening
to respond to 368 they entered feeling quite earnest and genuine to me and haven't done anything to change that perception
definitely not feeling a plus lim
it doesn't seem like anything that scum doesn't do to me. i don't see it.