Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:07 am
VOTE: shoshinIn post 348, Shoshin wrote:My silence was your answer.In post 346, Datisi wrote:shoshin, the "you wanna talk about it" was aimed at you too.
VOTE: shoshinIn post 348, Shoshin wrote:My silence was your answer.In post 346, Datisi wrote:shoshin, the "you wanna talk about it" was aimed at you too.
shhhhhhIn post 344, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Cakez isn't following this game closely.In post 217, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I highly doubt that you can read Noraa, her friendliness is NAI, she seems like she slip by right under your nose if you were an informed cop, and your chainsaw defense of your fake townread screams scum to me.
VOTE: Shoshin
because your reads seem fakedIn post 345, Shoshin wrote:SirCake, why you vote me?
why?In post 351, Shoshin wrote:I take back my town read on Nora.
ok explain.In post 351, Shoshin wrote:I take back my town read on Nora.
She doesn't seem to care what happens.
You're coasting and asking surface level questions to look busy.In post 347, Shoshin wrote:VPB, what're your concerns about me?
I understand why you say this -- I get this in my games a lot -- but it's just how I play. The questions aren't as surface level as they look, and if you take a look at my town games, you'll see it's part of how I find scum. These seemingly innocuous questions have caught a lot of scum. I believe they're effective & efficient precisely because they seem harmless.In post 357, VP Baltar wrote:You're coasting and asking surface level questions to look busy.In post 347, Shoshin wrote:VPB, what're your concerns about me?
I understand the value of questions like that. I use that strategy myself.In post 358, Shoshin wrote:These seemingly innocuous questions have caught a lot of scum. I believe they're effective & efficient precisely because they seem harmless.
remind me when? they all blend togetherIn post 354, Shoshin wrote:You played with me before, SirCake. What's different this game?
I wasn't here during RVS & I disagree about content levels. I asked your reads at a point where there was enough information to start forming meaningful thoughts, and I wanted a clear record so that I could evaluate progression later. You interested me because you were actively leading discussion but offering no actual insight into what you were thinking, & also you're an unknown player to me so I don't have a clear sense how to read you yet.In post 359, VP Baltar wrote:However, the problem here is there was really almost no content in the game when you started doing this. You can't catch scum in the RVS stage like that because there aren't any interactions to check the results against, nor does it move the game forward. That's why it comes across as fake to me.
We played a couple games but it was over a year ago. My takeaway was that you were a very scummy towny, and I correctly read you both times. I played exactly like this, & and you didn't scumread me in those games. One of the games waa the FORTNIGHT game where half the players were playing this way, and they were all town. It's scum who tend to over explain what they're doing -- scum like to leave a record justifying all their behaviors. What I'm doing is not scummy, neither for me nor in general.In post 360, SirCakez wrote:remind me when? they all blend togetherIn post 354, Shoshin wrote:You played with me before, SirCake. What's different this game?
I was?In post 361, Shoshin wrote:you were actively leading discussion
ok I don't remember those games so I am not using meta hereIn post 362, Shoshin wrote:We played a couple games but it was over a year ago. My takeaway was that you were a very scummy towny, and I correctly read you both times. I played exactly like this, & and you didn't scumread me in those games. One of the games waa the FORTNIGHT game where half the players were playing this way, and they were all town. It's scum who tend to over explain what they're doing -- scum like to leave a record justifying all their behaviors. What I'm doing is not scummy, neither for me nor in general.In post 360, SirCakez wrote:remind me when? they all blend togetherIn post 354, Shoshin wrote:You played with me before, SirCake. What's different this game?
I agree with this. datisi is one of the few players that I always SR for some reason :/In post 362, Shoshin wrote:you were a very scummy towny
Oh nvm it was about cake.In post 367, Noraa wrote:I agree with this. datisi is one of the few players that I always SR for some reason :/In post 362, Shoshin wrote:you were a very scummy towny
Yes, that actually underlines the problemIn post 302, Noraa wrote:Midway's not a newbie, no?In post 288, unwnd wrote:Yes
The game is boring at the surface level for me, I'm not interested in what people type most of the time. I think it's all very easy to fake, therefore I look for tells that aren't explicit such as someone's timing or their delivery. I think scum are more likely to process their posts and even use rhetoric to give off a certain vibe, while townies are shamefully honest and full of mistakes. When it comes to you midway, my issue with reading you is that you seem afraid of mistakes. You'd rather comfortably sideline and say things like 'people are too quick to give reads' but I think that's both unhelpful and lazy. I stand by what I said earlier: Post whatever you want as long as it doesn't start to become hyperposting. You seem very afraid of being judged for a wrong read and I'm not sure if it's because you think you should really really think about them when there's about 283 posts (e.g You don't understand the concept of D1), or you're nervous for scum reasons; Right now I lean the latter.
who are you and what have you done with ivIn post 369, innocentvillager wrote:Datisi is town
I do know this. I highly doubt VP or Peta have bad reads tho.In post 373, Shoshin wrote:Nora, you know that my reads are very good as town. I'm the sort of player you BoP before lynching. Why don't you care if I'm lynched?