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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:59 pm
by ben dover123
You shouldn't be using gut to determine your reason to vote now though, we are 14 pages in with a decent amount of info.

My vote is sticking where it is right now. Your actions just recently hard ping scum to me.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:00 pm
by Rockhopper
In post 350, ben dover123 wrote:You shouldn't be using gut to determine your reason to vote now though, we are 14 pages in with a decent amount of info.
Exactly.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:04 pm
by ben dover123
Right now, the only thing that is unsettling me about Rock is that clidd, my original scumread, was subtly pushing reasons why Rock was scummy, which I may have to analyze to see if this may be clidd trying to misdirect me towards a Rock miselim. Although these recent posts are just so bad coming from a town motivation.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:08 pm
by LoneMarkhor
Rockhopper you are really acting suspicious.First Lavar.Now why do you think ben is scum?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:29 pm
by ben dover123
In post 349, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 348, ben dover123 wrote:@above you should appear to be what?
"gut" is as lazy as what can get?
Scummy.
Reason to vote.
I'm fairly certain I read Newbie 2037 and Mini Normal 2177 and neither of those games you had scummy behavior, but I'm going to reread again to make sure. Meta case on Rock coming tomorrow.

Ok, ok, ok, ok, take some deep breath. Count to 10.

I'm taking a step back. What does everyone else think about Rock's recent posts? I want some opinions so I know I am either confbiased or I am looking at Rock's posts in the right way.

I'm gonna go to sleep, I'm exhausted after spilling some of my emotions. Goodnight all, and I hope to see some answers the the latter question.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:52 pm
by Trendall
cliddd n' LoneMarkhor top mafia suspects.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:59 pm
by LoneMarkhor
Why am I a suspect?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:46 pm
by Chumbo
While I'm looking at the new posts,
@ben: he only has newbie 2037 to look at, but rock does have 1 town game under his belt.
originally I thought his meta seemed about the same, but I'm not so sure looking at his new posts. What do you think about this?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:31 pm
by Chumbo
@above: Never mind, just got caught up and I see you made a reference to it already. Just skimmed the thread before.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:35 pm
by LoneMarkhor
@chumbo: what do you think about what rockhopper is saying?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:45 pm
by Chumbo
Also I missed the other game he was in.
In post 325, Rockhopper wrote:Interesting. You are now a scum lean.
This definitely comes off as a weird reason to develop a scumlean on Ben.
In post 335, Rockhopper wrote:Sure, bad reads != scummy in a vacuum, but my readlist in the previous page should appear to be obv!scum to any towny reading it. I state my opinion on how I think it's scummy to go along with the consensus, and immediately proceed to make a polarizing readlist with the most unsubstantiated garbage reads. That should look like maf trying not to contradict themselves while failing to give good reasoning in this context, and the fact that you didn't notice this points to you being scum more often than not due to TMI.
Why would you go out of your way to try to make something against consensus? And why would we care if you changed your mind about Pragdoid reads if you later realized that they were good reads? I get that you're trying not to contradict yourself, but yeah it really does make you look like mafia.
In post 339, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 336, ben dover123 wrote:Also why the actual f*** would you purposely make bad reads. That makes absolutely no sense from a towny perspective.
Why not? And how does that matter as a response to my read?
I can't think of a intention why town would purposely do something like this.
In post 344, Rockhopper wrote:Your AtE is definitely a contributing factor. You seem way to concerned with your image.
Haha! Brutal.

I find it fascinating that clidd and Rockhopper both are just going along with "yeah I look like scum, what about it"

I'm going to VOTE: Rockhopper I think thats E-2

PEdit: @LoneMarkhor: I don't think it looks good.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:04 pm
by Rockhopper
In post 360, Chumbo wrote:
In post 335, Rockhopper wrote:Sure, bad reads != scummy in a vacuum, but my readlist in the previous page should appear to be obv!scum to any towny reading it. I state my opinion on how I think it's scummy to go along with the consensus, and immediately proceed to make a polarizing readlist with the most unsubstantiated garbage reads. That should look like maf trying not to contradict themselves while failing to give good reasoning in this context, and the fact that you didn't notice this points to you being scum more often than not due to TMI.
Why would you go out of your way to try to make something against consensus? And why would we care if you changed your mind about Pragdoid reads if you later realized that they were good reads? I get that you're trying not to contradict yourself, but yeah it really does make you look like mafia.
I didn't change my mind about Pragdoid. That wasn't me going out of my way against consensus.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:17 pm
by Rockhopper
In post 360, Chumbo wrote: I can't think of a intention why town would purposely do something like this.
Meh. I'd expect a better analysis from town if they wanted a reads list.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:19 pm
by Rockhopper
Trendall is my top town read atm

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:30 pm
by LoneMarkhor
It feels like he is trying to save his scum partner(Clidd).Or(idk) he may have gone out of his way to pressure others but really that was too much so I think its not possible.Was Clidd not defending him because he was waiting for his other partner to take the heat off him.If so then it didn't go well for them.Well if so It would be his first time playing scum.It is most likely he is mafia. I cant think why he would do this as town.He was more likely trying to save half the mafia being caught day 1.Of course all this relies on the hypothesis that Clidd is also mafia.But I think Clidd voted for him too.What could that mean?So there is a chance this might not be true.Unless further analysis
(A bif FOS on rockhopper)
I'd probably voting him.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:35 pm
by LoneMarkhor
Typo:big FOS

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:44 pm
by Chumbo
In post 361, Rockhopper wrote:I didn't change my mind about Pragdoid. That wasn't me going out of my way against consensus.
ok, that was just my thinking. You still didn't want to contradict yourself though?
In post 363, Rockhopper wrote:Trendall is my top town read atm
I really don't see why, but ok.
In post 364, LoneMarkhor wrote:It feels like he is trying to save his scum partner(Clidd).Or(idk) he may have gone out of his way to pressure others but really that was too much so I think its not possible.Was Clidd not defending him because he was waiting for his other partner to take the heat off him.If so then it didn't go well for them.Well if so It would be his first time playing scum.It is most likely he is mafia. I cant think why he would do this as town.He was more likely trying to save half the mafia being caught day 1.Of course all this relies on the hypothesis that Clidd is also mafia.But I think Clidd voted for him too.What could that mean?So there is a chance this might not be true.Unless further analysis
(A bif FOS on rockhopper)
I'd probably voting him.
I don't know. I think it's one or the other. clidd kind of seems like he's trying to save his own ass from being lynched. I may end up changing to clidd if he doesn't provide something better after BM posts.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:52 pm
by LoneMarkhor
I am really curious what BM is gonna post.I dont think its going to be what I think it will be.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:57 pm
by Chumbo
In post 367, LoneMarkhor wrote:I am really curious what BM is gonna post.I dont think its going to be what I think it will be.
What do you think it will be?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:58 pm
by LoneMarkhor
They are town masons?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:04 pm
by Chumbo
Wow, that's not what I expected you to say at all. I guess we'll see.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:04 pm
by Rockhopper
Lel. Heavy town pings from LoneMarkhor for saying that.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:05 pm
by Trendall
In post 369, LoneMarkhor wrote:They are town masons?
How did you arrive at this?

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:05 pm
by Chumbo
Yeah, I'd say so.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:06 pm
by Rockhopper
In post 372, Trendall wrote:
In post 369, LoneMarkhor wrote:They are town masons?
How did you arrive at this?
Probably better if we don't discuss