The only information I have is who the goon is and that is momrangal. Which is why I am voting there as I said earlier
hahaha
this is certainly one way to play the game
i'm fulfilling your destiny!
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:42 pm
by mary44
ok pausing catchup here
i gotta get sleep and stuff
i'm really excited to play this and show you all momrangal is scum!!
having a free cop guilty from the start of the game feels amazing :D
In post 333, Vanderscamp wrote:Mini/Mini's replacement, I plan on voting you after you have more time to talk.
It's disappointing that Mini is replacing out after a full game day of being here but providing no content.
Why do you say this like you plan to vote for me no matter what I say?
My current plan is to vote you unless you say something to change my mind.
You definitely could change my mind!
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:16 pm
by Vanderscamp
In post 338, mary44 wrote:I think the best way to play this is probably convince you all momrangal is scum
I'll try and point out why she is in all of her glory
In post 11, Momrangal wrote:I can sit and wait until he decides to vote the real goon though
That, or get lynched either or.
It's not normal for a town VT to react like this. If you're being accused of being scum you're just going to assume the other person is the mafia shady
Momrangal shouldn't be considering mini is town here at all, it's like she's trying to look too open/uninformed about it because she thinks town would keep an open mind, but they wouldn't... they would just assume like I said
it's over the top basically
I completely agree with this btw, I had the same reaction to mom's post as you're talking about.
My problem with the dichotomy, if you're town, is that I think your previous slot was very scummy.
DK you have thoughts on why your previous slot was towny, or why they would play that way as town?
In post 59, Ythan wrote:Eh I think it's nai? Idk. There it is though make up your own mind.
I think it's maybe towny.
In post 68, Vanderscamp wrote:Mom and mega are actually the two scummiest people in the thread for me at this point.
Saying it's maybe towny and then quickly clarifying he finds Momrangal as one of the scummiest players is a lil suspicious here
like he was afraid of potentially defending her in the first post and that looking bad later so felt the need to clarify he actually finds her scummy
I thought that post was mildly towny, but Mom's opening post was a lot scummier than that post was towny.
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:23 pm
by Vanderscamp
In post 351, mary44 wrote:ok pausing catchup here
i gotta get sleep and stuff
i'm really excited to play this and show you all momrangal is scum!!
having a free cop guilty from the start of the game feels amazing
Thanks for your efforts!
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:24 pm
by Vanderscamp
I think you are at least as towny as Mom has been fwiw
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:25 am
by mary44
In post 353, Vanderscamp wrote:DK you have thoughts on why your previous slot was towny, or why they would play that way as town?
In post 104, Facebones wrote:If Momrangal gets ganked and happens to be the town flagbearer I'm gonna be so super cross
Fuck oath
This post is sending me weird vibes. I'm honestly fine with a serious vote on Facebones.
I'm not sure I see what Ythan sees in Momrangal and Mini but that may be due to my lack of understanding the setup. I'll try to figure it out.
-nornor
liking NB more for matching my thoughts on this!
In post 110, Rockhopper wrote:On a second read, I think Mom is pretty towny of the two because it makes little sense for them as scum to have that kind of a reaction to Mini's claim. It's just gut right now but I can elaborate if needed.
I also have {Ythan, NoraaCake} for town so that leaves me with {Face, Flea, Vander} by PoE.
it makes no sense as
town
to have that reaction
it makes sense as scum because she's faking it because she thinks it'll make her look better
please do elaborate if you didn't already after this :3
rockhopper siding with momrangal is obviously very beneficial to him if he's scum but i actually don't think scum vote together so obviously like this
like it would make sense if it was to vote mini out cause that ends the game
but if it's on another townie then they'll just look sus for the next day when the game isn't over
i think this makes rock slightly more likely to be town
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:56 am
by mary44
In post 96, Vanderscamp wrote:I don't think you are both scum, I think you are both independently scummy.
In post 115, Momrangal wrote:Are people going to finally talk about the elephants in the room
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:59 am
by mary44
In post 134, Momrangal wrote:And then there is minimegabyte who is avoiding game analysis only to continue to get a lynch off my slot. I'm about 50% sure it's scummini pushing a lynch on the flagbearer but I'm not willing to end the game today in the off chance that he's doing whatever gambit his mind comes up with. The game has been live for several days now but it seems like the only thing people aren't aware of the fact that tomorrow the game could end if we don't get engaged today
haha what town awkwardly shades someone they should know is scum like this? :3
it's really really unbelievable (well i know it's not true but from your perspectives) that momrangal is only 50% sure mini is scum
mini does not read like the type of player to pull gambits at all
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:01 am
by mary44
the scum motivation in this is to look like she's not completely informed on mini's alignment because town isn't but scum is, but she's way overdoing it
In post 16, Rockhopper wrote:unless I'm mistaken, the 1v1 between the shady and the one who they claim is the goon should be resolved first to reach our wincon.
I thought initially it's better to lynch into the pool first and then lynch into the dichotomy the next day, but I don't 100% remember.
But because of the no mislynch two days in a row rule I think this is the option that gives us the most room, although I could have calculated it wrong.
The is is because the only information I have is that you are the goon! So of course right now I’m going to try and eliminate your slot
I have questions for you in my attttaaaaxck spoiler
ok i like that fae is actually expanding on and chasing the questions up though
shows there's some intent to solve there
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:08 am
by mary44
In post 152, Ythan wrote:We should be looking for the traitor today and saving the 1v1 for when we've just hit a misyeet and will lose anyway on a second consecutively.
Oh, I missed this one.
I thought 11 implied TMI on Mini's alignment which I assumed she thought was common knowledge.
Oh!
That was the post that I had a scumread on Mom for.
I agree with your interpretation.
Since then though I feel like Mom has tried to give analysis or thoughts of any kind, and Mini really hasn't.
idk what mini was doing honestly
i'll look through her previous games to see
i'll probably find something to show she does this as town
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:17 am
by mary44
so this was her last game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=34876
it was actually in a hydra with our mod for this game haha
but they were town and she only made like 8 posts in 4 days (not kidding) so that should tell you guys that her lack of solving here is nai at worst
my gut feeling is that Flea is acting in bad faith in this interaction
it seemed obvious to me what point Ythan was making (those 3 people scumread you, if that's how your list is made, then add me!)
and Flea is being... weirdly oblivious about it in faer questioning
it just feels off
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:40 am
by Noraas Bakery
Well so Mini's replacement's first few posts were not that great but then they got better and I'm understanding what they say more.
Is today the day we do the 1v1 or are we still not doing the 1v1?
Atm I definitely think I prefer launching mom with their terrible read on me. Mary is looking better and better.
-nornor
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:41 am
by Ythan
We do the 1v1 today. I don't think our odds of hitting scum outside the 1v1 are better than 50/50 and if we miss today we lose.
I cant do my thing now until you respond
