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I could see Amelie and Bugs as partners.

Im beginning to come to the similar conclusion about Amelie as bug's Pray, and Luca has. She just seems like an inexperienced, but aggressive, player in general. I usally see that in new town moreso then new scum. I feel comfortable saying she is more likely town then random.

In the moment it seemed like she was spearheading the heck out of the town bloc that was forming. Thinking about it, she would make that play as both alignments since she obviously doesn't trust me, and/or NoPower. Tho i guess she trusts Nopower now.

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Bugs isnt doing a lot for me right now. Im pretty content to sheep there.

Like most compelling thing i can say is that its weird for scum to openly spec on unannounced neighbors/masons.

I also dont really understand the formation of his town read on me. Feels like they are trying to fake a soul read or something. :/

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Galron
Frogsterking
NoPowerOverMe

Amélie

Gamma Emerald
Luca Blight
Momrangal
-----(okay flipping any of these guys)------
AGamblingPig
Lunar Martian

bugspray
OutWorldER
Trendall


From Gamma to Lunar Martian I'd classify as all being null reads. the distinction is that I think that Gamma, Luca, and Momrangal are providing information that will make sorting them easier down the line. Whereas Pig, and Lunar, have yet to do anything Ai, or provide content i could revaluate later.

I cant say i hard scum read anybody in my scum pile. Its more a "these are the least Town looking" players on the roster.

In post 352, Grendel wrote:Bugs isnt doing a lot for me right now. Im pretty content to sheep there.

Like most compelling thing i can say is that its weird for scum to openly spec on unannounced neighbors/masons.

I also dont really understand the formation of his town read on me. Feels like they are trying to fake a soul read or something. :/

my pronouns are they/them

In post 306, Amélie wrote:Town: Frogsterking, Gamma Emerald, Galron, bugspray
Not confident town: Momrangal
Null: OutWorldER, Lunar Martian, Trendall, AGamblingPig
Scum: Grendel, NoPowerOverMe, Luca Blight

This is a full list with everyone in the game.

This list is really contrary to what/where popular opinion is.

If im alive in the mid to late game and all the "null" reads in her list end up being town then Im gonna grant Amelie conf!town status. It'd be bonkers for a scum!Amelie to keep all the town players under the most pressure as just null reads, and hone in on players whole are more town read in general. This is more a note to myself for later. It can be dismissed if there is scum in her null reads.

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Ahhh, im sorry. I didnt mean to fudge your pronouns Bug Spray.

The thing about Amelie's agressiveness is, it's one thing to be aggressive in the "town spirit" and work with other town players in the name of hunting scum, it's quite another to be agressive towards players that are by and large being townread by the rest of the table. It could be the result of inexperience or it could be the result of scum with an agenda.

Ameile had a bad experience in her newbie where she played like this and it got her flipped early in the game.

I'd think that she'd reconsidered her approach if she rolled scum this game?

Whereas town she'd not care so much about playing in a way thats confrontational if she thinks it'll help her slove the game

Solving the game doesn't help you much if you get yeeted.

I mean i get that there are "shellyRCs" out there that are 100% ready to play assertively despite relative newness to the scene, (shes not exactly new anymore). But not many new players feel comfortable doing that as scum.

pre-edit, i agree with that. Amilie is the one you want to convince lol

It's a mistake to assume that because a player is new with this username they are new to mafia in general.

I think Amelie needs to convince us, not vice versa, she's the one being wagoned.

Before someone points out that I'm being wagoned too, the votes on me are extremely weak, one vote says I "feel off" and another said "let's see what this will do."

In post 350, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I could see Amelie and Bugs as partners.

Yes, the thought did cross my mind it could be something like Amelie/Bugs/Lunar, which would explain Amelie’s behavior this game; the need to desperately throw a spanner in the works of then townbloc and generally muddy the waters. Otherwise I kind of agree with Grendel’s view; she’s making a rod for her own back.

In post 299, Lunar Martian wrote:I think this page says either Gamma or Luca is Mafia.

This comment struck me as an attempt to divert the attention away from Bugs and create paranoia over their wagon.

In post 338, Frogsterking wrote:Trendall is scum.

I can see where this comes from. Definitely can.

In post 341, Luca Blight wrote:You haven’t really had the same thought process, though, as you SR NPOM whereas Gamma TR’s them and wants to townbloc with them, while you are against the townbloc. Gamma has simply noticed a pretty obvious detail (that NPOM was arguing against Frogster but wanted them in the townbloc) and you’ve used that to flip your read, which doesn’t seem like a very genuine progression.

Dont change the topic. My post was clearly saying that I agreed with Gamma Emerald that NoPowerOverMe town reading Frogsterking was strange.

In post 341, Luca Blight wrote:How is it unnatural? You’re one of my biggest SR’s so of course I’m going to focus on you more.

You have a 2013 join date. I think you should know why focusing on one person when their is plenty of other content is weird. Even if I am a scum read, this treatment is weird.

In post 348, Luca Blight wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: Bugs

I feel more confident about this atm. I really dislike Amélie‘s reads and the way she formulates them, but it could be a clash of play styles more than anything. She reminds me of the kind of player I’d tunnel and end up mislynching in the past.

VOTE: Luca Blight

In post 352, Grendel wrote:In the moment it seemed like she was spearheading the heck out of the town bloc that was forming. Thinking about it, she would make that play as both alignments since she obviously doesn't trust me, and/or NoPower. Tho i guess she trusts Nopower now.

No I believe both of you are scum.

In post 354, Grendel wrote:If im alive in the mid to late game and all the "null" reads in her list end up being town then Im gonna grant Amelie conf!town status. It'd be bonkers for a scum!Amelie to keep all the town players under the most pressure as just null reads, and hone in on players whole are more town read in general. This is more a note to myself for later. It can be dismissed if there is scum in her null reads.

This is quite scummy honestly. It almost feels like tmi to me.

In post 355, NoPowerOverMe wrote:The thing about Amelie's agressiveness is, it's one thing to be aggressive in the "town spirit" and work with other town players in the name of hunting scum, it's quite another to be agressive towards players that are by and large being townread by the rest of the table. It could be the result of inexperience or it could be the result of scum with an agenda.

Why should I care what other people believe? Last game I was in, everyone believed I was scum. Should I have ignored my role pm and suddenly just think that is correct?

In post 359, NoPowerOverMe wrote:It's a mistake to assume that because a player is new with this username they are new to mafia in general.

I think Amelie needs to convince us, not vice versa, she's the one being wagoned.

I have less votes than someone "in the town block"
If the town block is so weak that I can shake things up and that people are voting people in it, it means the town block was bad to begin with.
Telling me to take the majority's opinion into mind is just dumb. I have my own thoughts and the way to squash them is this way.

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

I think NoPowerOverMe needs to convince us, not vice versa, he's the one being wagoned. What is this? E-3?

I am fairly new to mafia(with 3 games of experience on another site now) but you don't get to bully me for it. I don't get intimidated and I will not listen to you if I believe you are scum.

Can anyone spot the irony here?

In post 365, Amélie wrote:

In post 341, Luca Blight wrote:How is it unnatural? You’re one of my biggest SR’s so of course I’m going to focus on you more.

You have a 2013 join date. I think you should know why focusing on one person when their is plenty of other content is weird. Even if I am a scum read, this treatment is weird.

In post 366, Amélie wrote:

In post 348, Luca Blight wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: Bugs

I feel more confident about this atm. I really dislike Amélie‘s reads and the way she formulates them, but it could be a clash of play styles more than anything. She reminds me of the kind of player I’d tunnel and end up mislynching in the past.

VOTE: Luca Blight

I'm supposed to be worried about E3?

Like I said, the fact that you are following the weak votes says more about you than me.

Amélie is probably Town .