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In post 343, Prism wrote:Can you be more explicit? "or others have said" is extremely broad

sure, though asking specific questions is probably going to get you to whatever you want from me more quickly,

like infinity feels like she is playing a different game from the one she is saying she is playing, but the narrow thing very disadvantageous for scum if it does not go well, like eggs/basket right

the monkey thing above, dannflor seems to be posting separate from game but also acknowledged this himself, and catboi i think pointed it out,

i don't really have enough reference to get much out of back and forth between you and catboi, catboi and monkey both talk to you like you're confirmed though, but eh,

can you elaborate more on what exactly I've done and what the similarities are

I feel like I just stated a town read on you

In post 349, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Infinity, would you leave with me?

Yes probably.

In post 347, Infinity 324 wrote:You tried to pocket me the same way you're doing here

Shiki (inutile) could be scum

unsure of who you even think i am trying to pocket here?

she was talking to me with the first line, p sure

In post 352, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 349, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Infinity, would you leave with me?

Yes probably.

Trust me then

To be fair with catboi he has been playing with me for 11 years and hears my thoughts/ideas on mafia several times a week.

I don't think he got me as town based off the first few pages but if anyone it is definitely him

In post 354, Dannflor wrote:she was talking to me with the first line, p sure

oh

In post 346, Dannflor wrote:

In post 341, inutile wrote:

In post 339, Dannflor wrote:any immediate reads, inutile?

not really beyond what i or others have said,

you haven't stated any

that's why I asked

if the reads you want are just,

_ is town
or
_ is mafia

that'd just be me assigning way more weight than the scales actually have

In post 350, inutile wrote:like infinity feels like she is playing a different game from the one she is saying she is playing, but the narrow thing very disadvantageous for scum if it does not go well, like eggs/basket right

Prism mentioned a similar thing, would it help if I was a bit more proactive in communicating my reads?

I was proactive about prism early as well as my dann read, but I guess there are some reads which I'm either struggling to articulate or get a handle on, and it should get better as the game goes on.

@monkey I'm not gonna trust anyone until tomorrow when I have a bit more time to think about the game/am hopefully less tired

In post 357, inutile wrote:if the reads you want are just,

_ is town
or
_ is mafia

that'd just be me assigning way more weight than the scales actually have

no I just want some evidence that you're thinking about posts and actions in relation to people's alignments

like what is your gut telling you or have certain posts made you lean more this way and that

even just like "I'm unsure on x because of this towny thing but also this scummy thing happened"

Just do it with me now i thought im town

In post 360, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Just do it with me now i thought im town

The standard for me trust falling with someone without having more time to think is higher than just generic townread.

There's also a question of whether I want to trust fall with only murdercat cause there could be a risk of him getting left behind, but that's a bit arrogant.

In post 355, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Trust me then

Or don't

In post 358, Infinity 324 wrote:Prism mentioned a similar thing, would it help if I was a bit more proactive in communicating my reads?

I was proactive about prism early as well as my dann read, but I guess there are some reads which I'm either struggling to articulate or get a handle on, and it should get better as the game goes on.

hm, it just feels like there is a disconnect between like, i want to solve the game, but also i am sure of this and this is what i will do, and it makes it feel like everything else is throwaway

but yeah time maybe

In post 359, Dannflor wrote:no I just want some evidence that you're thinking about posts and actions in relation to people's alignments

like what is your gut telling you or have certain posts made you lean more this way and that

even just like "I'm unsure on x because of this towny thing but also this scummy thing happened"

hm, i mean, i comment on what i do for a reason,

In post 347, Infinity 324 wrote:Shiki (inutile) could be scum

like has infinity not gone 'hmm!' yet? possible
does she know i expect this of her, and is potentially appeasing because of questioning, also possible

In post 363, inutile wrote:hm, it just feels like there is a disconnect between like, i want to solve the game, but also i am sure of this and this is what i will do, and it makes it feel like everything else is throwaway

but yeah time maybe

Fair, I also want to come up with reads for other people to refer to if they want, also I'm not 100% I want to leave with murder yet only 90% or so

I am restraining myself from being a more forceful or aggressive advocate right now and it better pay off.

In post 366, Prism wrote:I am restraining myself from being a more forceful or aggressive advocate right now and it better pay off.

if on account of me there is no need, past on me much moreso than you

have i made the game easier?

In post 351, Dannflor wrote:can you elaborate more on what exactly I've done and what the similarities are

I feel like I just stated a town read on you

@infinity

In post 368, Dannflor wrote:

In post 351, Dannflor wrote:can you elaborate more on what exactly I've done and what the similarities are

I feel like I just stated a town read on you

@infinity

I don't think it's super likely that my reason for TRing murder has any weight for town!you, so that's part of it, then you quoted my post about monkey which is a small thing but pinged me as similar to noraaland a bit (mindmelding was one of the main reasons you listed for TRing me there). The way you're excited about the townread on me feels similar to noraaland and a bit fake I guess.

I feel a bit bad because this reasoning almost certainly won't make sense to you, but that's what it is.

Okay no trusts for me then. And you'd only want to leave with murdercat and not in a generic townread sense. You -strongly believe- that Murdercat is town. Can you remind me why, and why that level of read is not available to the rest of us?

no, it makes sense to some degree, although my memory of noraaland is very bad because I was basically playing on auto pilot

your reason for town reading murder did not hold any weight for me, but I like believed it did for you?

anyway, at risk of sounding like I’m trying to pocket you more, this exchange plus the gloating smiley face accompanying your read on me feels like an unnecessary prod for scum to make. yeah yeah yeah I know noraaland

In post 233, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 230, Dannflor wrote:what solving has he done this game? this feels like a tone read but I feel like tone reads need a lot more time to develop before they approach anywhere near lock-levels

Ehh that really depends

I'm not sure how to answer "what solving has he done", it's just all his posts? Every time someone posts something his gears are reflexively turning to update his reads based on that (look a when he townread prism for example)

In post 234, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 167, MURDERCAT wrote:

In post 160, catboi wrote:Seeing as inutile hasn't posted, everyone else done something to move above null for you? IDK, feels premature, even though I don't think it's scummy.

I could add Dann in maybe for that last post. Otherwise yes

I think I made up a murder townread on prism but 167 is a good example of what I'm talking about.

Here's my murder read.

I'm open to falling with people other than murder. If you have a good reason why you really want to pair with me then I'd only refuse if I really believed murder would not fall with anyone else.

I want to see the gamestate develop before I fall with anyone is what I'm trying to say.

In post 248, Dannflor wrote:was the main thing that got me rethinking my read

This is what I meant by holding weight for you