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In post 348, Val89 wrote:What makes you say a wagon on me wouldn't be viable?

In post 348, Val89 wrote:Have you given us those more-decent-then-usual townreads, yet?

In post 350, catboi wrote:Because as it is the only one who expressed any sort of interest in voting you is Greeting whereas most others think you're town, not really hard to read the room.

In post 351, catboi wrote:I'l be honest I threw out the D1 herosolve, even though I'm generally against those things in principle

In post 337, catboi wrote:I generally try to discourage preflip associations on day 1 in newbie games

In post 352, Val89 wrote:

In post 350, catboi wrote:Because as it is the only one who expressed any sort of interest in voting you is Greeting whereas most others think you're town, not really hard to read the room.

Except that isn't true, is it? That's why I asked the question in the first place. MafMen

has

voted me today, and although he has unvoted he was pretty explicit that wasn't because he started townreading me. In fact, as far as I recall, the only slots that have said they are townreading me are Implosion and Frogsfrogs. That leaves 6 slots who either have explicitly shaded me, or said they are on the fence, or not mentioned me at all. You only need 5 for a lim.

It's pretty suspect, and it makes me wonder if you actually beleive what you are saying. I think you know the people who haven't come out with a read on me yet may indeed end up townreading me, because you know I am town, and acting as such.

In post 351, catboi wrote:I'l be honest I threw out the D1 herosolve, even though I'm generally against those things in principle

In post 337, catboi wrote:I generally try to discourage preflip associations on day 1 in newbie games

Why do you ordinarary discourage this?

In post 180, Val89 wrote:While we are on the subject of Thynhith, I have a bit of additional context for that slot.

People have correctly deduced there was a bit of background tension between Thyn and the previous occupant of my slot. I was also in that game they played together, and won as scum.

Post 50 is interesting, because the justification that was given, that another slot had given a TMI read on the basis of exactly 3 posts, was precisely the same fake-justification, albeit more verbosely, I gave for scumreading his Mason partner. You may want to have a look at the exchange I had (link) on the issue, and in fact, Thyn's approach to that game more widely, because I am getting a very different vibe to his play this time around. That also applies to the "be careful not to hammer yet unless you mean to" concern at 82, another post Greeting describes as "very towny", which again, was an interaction scum!me had with Thyns slot in that game.

Thyn couldn't predict, of course, that I would end up replacing into this game, and it seems faily plausable to me that, having just lost a game to scum, he may well attempt to replicate that scum game he had seen work so well when he rolled scum himself. My read on greeting is stronger presently, but these are all reason I'm not townreading Thyn on the basis of those posts. In fact, given the vibe is markedly different to that last town!Thyn game, I am scumleaning that slot.

In post 326, Val89 wrote:

In post 325, Thynhith wrote:And I'm against voting out Val, at least D1, because his align will be much more obvious in later days.
In fact it seems you're avoiding voting Val, despite declaring him to be disingenuous, thin and repetitive.

Thyn, what has made you decide that catboi is avoiding voting me for different reasons that you have elected to do so yourself?

In post 353, catboi wrote:That...makes no sense. If as scum I believe someone is too townread to be a vialable elim, I concede the townread and move on (also, how would I possibly know that someone who isn't me is going to be townreading you in the future?). My motives here are...what, exactly?

In post 350, catboi wrote:I feel reasonably okayish about implo (who was my second early gut townread) and MafMen, pseudoaristotle is probtown, I think Greeting is towny although that one is the shakiest.

In post 360, Val89 wrote:Well, like I said in my previous, I have been holding off hammering because I wanted to get a handle on catboi, and try and firm up my read on pseudo before day end.

But no, you are perfectly correct, Thyn. I do have a read on catboi now, and it doesn't look like like pseudo will be around much, so...

intent to hammer

In post 360, Val89 wrote:Well, like I said in my previous, I have been holding off hammering because I wanted to get a handle on catboi, and try and firm up my read on pseudo before day end.

But no, you are perfectly correct, Thyn. I do have a read on catboi now, and it doesn't look like like pseudo will be around much, so...

intent to hammer

In post 358, Thynhith wrote:Atp we have just under 2 days left, and I'm only comfortable limming Val or Maf. Val doesn't look like he's actively trying to lim someone, and is likely waiting as long as he can before hammering me, or best of all for someone else to do it.

For me his behavior this game is just too similar to what he pulled in our last game - gets locked into arguments with people, refuses to stop yammering about a single post.

Tries his best to discredit someone. I'm a little disheartened no one took a look at the previous game. Frogs says he's convinced Val can't be town, which seems incredible. If Val flips red he's definitely a potential partner.
VOTE: Val
I'd be alright getting behind a Maf wagon as well, but Val is first choice

In post 127, Greeting wrote:

Setup 1

Mafia Roleblocker, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker.

Now, if we have this setup, the way I see it, the Jailkeeper has a choice:
1. save igorsprite but his role becames basically obsolete
2. leave igorsprite to die and utilise their role the best to their own abilities.

If I were the Jailkeeper, I’d probably opt for the second option. The choice is up to you, of course, but I suggest that you visit players whom you find suspicious (other than igorsprite) and hope that you hit the Roleblocker or the Goon. The Tracker is lost and that’s it.

Setup 2

Mafia Rolecop, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor.

If we have this setup, then our situation is objectively worst. Friendly Neighbor is a relatively weak PR, nonetheless can still be useful for narrowing the suspect pool later on in the game.

I also considered the option of suggesting that the Friendly Neighbor outs themselves now and we vote out someone from outside the pool of igorsprite and the FN

, but I think that with a bit of luck, the role could be used to town’s benefit on Day Two. So don't claim and do your thing.

Setup 3

Mafia Rolecop, Town Tracker, Town Doctor.

Not all hope is lost if we’re lucky to have this setup. Doctor, please save igorsprite. Igorsprite, please investigate a player of your choice and report the result to us the following Day, regardless of whomever will that be. The Rolecop is a weaker role than the Roleblocker and so I think we don’t have to worry too much about it early in the game.

In any case, the other town PR claiming at this stage of the other game would be nothing but ranging from bad to absolutely disastrous for town so please don’t try it.