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Twomz wrote: And unlike other roles in the game, they have no ability to "check" to make sure they're not lying or faking.

Actually night time vanillas can very easily be "checked" in a smalltown. If they are tracked or watched going anywhere they're definitely scum.

Not Voters ..... ???

We still have plenty of time before deadline for voting. Take it easy.

Twomz wrote:Alabaska's alignment is something we should determine... but if he is town, what is the point in destroying his endgame power? Same goes with Winter. Both roles would be awesome if they were town and ridiculously bad endgame if they were scum. And unlike other roles in the game, they have no ability to "check" to make sure they're not lying or faking.

And as long as alabaska is around, shaft.ed has a good place to hide (although, the point is moot of shaft.ed is scum... /shrug).

We really really don't need a discussion like this. Pick a role in the game, and you could say "Well... it would be a good thing if they were town but a bad thing if they were scum". The only criteria that's going to get us through the game is "have they been scummy?"

I understand where Claus is coming from, but I think he's late getting here and is leaving too fast. I'd at least like to see some more from Iamusername, and like Cyberbob says, no rush. Don't you agree, Claus?

Different Issue

Claus wrote:Not Voters ..... ???

I concur. Those not voting need to take a stand so we can make some progress. I'm not calling for lynching or even necessarily a normally claim forcing wagon, we just need people to commit to a stance.

Thanks, Armlx

armlx wrote:

Claus wrote:Not Voters ..... ???

I concur. Those not voting need to take a stand so we can make some progress. I'm not calling for lynching or even necessarily a normally claim forcing wagon, we just need people to commit to a stance.

Let me read Megatron/iamausername again. Don't have time to do that right now, but I will do it soon. I'll take another look at TheHermit as well, to see how his bandwagon dried up.

And, if all else fails, then I still support an Alabaska lynch. It won't be hard to get votes for that, though.

Reread Megatron/iamausername. I don't see what you're trying to point out to me, Claus, or why he seems like such an obvious lynch (which is how I read your "seriously"). My read on him remains fairly neutral.

un-obvious



indecisive

You, uh, are already voting for Megatron's replacement. >_>

armlx wrote:

Claus wrote:Not Voters ..... ???

I concur. Those not voting need to take a stand so we can make some progress. I'm not calling for lynching or even necessarily a normally claim forcing wagon, we just need people to commit to a stance.

QFT. Everyone should be voting at all times on D1.

Given a reread, and I stand by my Winter vote, but I'm finding Twomz suspicious too, because if you read his posts in isolation, you'll see this:

Twomz wrote:

Unvote.

There seems to be a lot of setup and nightchoice possibility discussion, and very little actual scumhunting.

surrounded on both sides by... a lot of setup and nightchoice discussion, and very little actual scumhunting.

I reread Megatron. He's really indecisive when asked directly if he found anyone suspicious and most of his post have to do with game mechanics and not about his suspicions. However, iamausername seems to be doing much better in this regard.

I've reread Megatron/iamausername and I really don't see him over W@nt3r. Sorry, Claus.

I unvoted because Iamuser replaced megatron, whom I was voting for.

I'll figure out someone to vote for before the day's over .

Hi Guys!

Seems like my former self was getting heat for not using his vote. I don't know why he did that; might be his personality. I, on the other hand, will be using my power as much as possible.

On that note:
. I'm getting catious scum vibes on him but this is mainly because of his vote on the hermit wagon. I thought the hermit wagon was completely baseless and, now that he's posting, I'm getting townie vibes from hermit. Pug's vote looks opportunistic and omgusy.

I'm finding Alabaska kind of scummy too because of his relentless bandwagonning and weak reasoning but I don't support his lynch at this time because I think we need information lynches early in the game.

Even though Rishi's posts seem pretty sensible I'm getting a kind of vibe from him too. Can't back it up but

Claus seems to be working at the game despite his pr which makes him look kind of townie in my eyes: it would be so easy for scum to lurk.

But I don't agree with him about Megatron/iamausername. Did a reread of just this poster and he strikes me as town. I don't agree that his comment about being nightkilled was AtoE; in fact, I'd say that the very suggestion is laughable.

I'm also confused as to why anybody thinks it's a good idea to lead the jailer. Wouldn't it be better to try to avoid any kind of clues as to who he's targetting so that scum have to secondguess him? I think it would.

armlx/cyberbob read as neutral- armlx is like alabaska in that he doesn't seem to be thinking about his vote at all but he seems slightly more sensible. Cyberbob for me could go either way.

Twomz needs to talk much more, I have no idea what to do with him.

NabakovNabakovob was pushing a bad wagon, I'd say he's scummy but not as scummy as pug.

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Twomz wrote:I unvoted because Iamuser replaced megatron, whom I was voting for.

I don't understand this. The player may be different, but it would still be the same role. Unless you were voting him for lurking (and you weren't), why would you remove the vote just because he got replaced? I don't think it's necessarily a scummy action, but it feels... weird.

TheHermit wrote:

Twomz wrote:I unvoted because Iamuser replaced megatron, whom I was voting for.

I don't understand this. The player may be different, but it would still be the same role. Unless you were voting him for lurking (and you weren't), why would you remove the vote just because he got replaced? I don't think it's necessarily a scummy action, but it feels... weird.

You unvote as to give the new player a chance to respond.

What armlx said.

And I don't say anything unless I have something to say. Although most of the stuff that I say either isn't really content or is agreement/disagreement.

I get better as the game goes on .

Well maybe I'll give you something to say.

For example, what do you think of Pug, Twomz?

How about Alabaska- is he on the same side as you, do you think?

You wanted the double vote, so tell me, what's the best way to use it? Should I be catious or bold?

What about Claus? On a scale of one to crispy how protown is he?

M4yhem wrote:Hi Guys!

Seems like my former self was getting heat for not using his vote. I don't know why he did that; might be his personality. I, on the other hand, will be using my power as much as possible.

On that note:

Vote:Pug89 Vote:Pug89

. I'm getting catious scum vibes on him but this is mainly because of his vote on the hermit wagon. I thought the hermit wagon was completely baseless and, now that he's posting, I'm getting townie vibes from hermit. Pug's vote looks opportunistic and omgusy.

I'm finding Alabaska kind of scummy too because of his relentless bandwagonning and weak reasoning but I don't support his lynch at this time because I think we need information lynches early in the game.

Fos:Alabaska J

Even though Rishi's posts seem pretty sensible I'm getting a kind of vibe from him too. Can't back it up but

IGMEOY

Claus seems to be working at the game despite his pr which makes him look kind of townie in my eyes: it would be so easy for scum to lurk.

But I don't agree with him about Megatron/iamausername. Did a reread of just this poster and he strikes me as town. I don't agree that his comment about being nightkilled was AtoE; in fact, I'd say that the very suggestion is laughable.

I'm also confused as to why anybody thinks it's a good idea to lead the jailer. Wouldn't it be better to try to avoid any kind of clues as to who he's targetting so that scum have to secondguess him? I think it would.

armlx/cyberbob read as neutral- armlx is like alabaska in that he doesn't seem to be thinking about his vote at all but he seems slightly more sensible. Cyberbob for me could go either way.

Twomz needs to talk much more, I have no idea what to do with him.

NabakovNabakovob was pushing a bad wagon, I'd say he's scummy but not as scummy as pug.

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A lot of this seems leechy to me. Also, like he is trying to please lots of people.

Before I post why, does anyone else get this feeling?

Before I post why, does anyone else get this feeling?

Explain first please. Your pre-emptive need to barn people doesn't help.