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In post 342, Frogsterking wrote:For example, my fine feathered friend, you may have noticed exhibit A:

In post 184, MariaR wrote:but I understand people TR things easier than I do.

In post 301, MariaR wrote:Save the Dragons/Marci/Char
Fen/Cape
.
Pooky/Gamma
Nero/Frog

I go lay down now have fun

A contradiction in the number of Townreads they listed vs the number they should have were they sorting the thread organically.

In post 350, MariaR wrote:Either you're reaching so hard that you've convinced yourself that I am a wolf with such wacky reasoning without even considering why this stuff can come from a villager or you're just a wolf trying to paint anything possible into a wolfread.

I'll let the thread figure out what

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In post 328, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 327, Fennec wrote:Plus, I was able to reread the posts, as I'm filling a log of posts in a document as well as relationships with players between players to see for contradictions and later reference, and

So basically you're open wolfing to try and put me on tilt so you can sort me. Groovy!

In post 335, Fennec wrote:and also, Crumbing your voting the guy who hadn't posted a single time

In post 119, MariaR wrote:Sigh that's effort? Don't you know how lazy I am? Besides the obvious RVS votes that are just >rand on if you want to call them AI or not, I think most of the stuff said so far has a level of effort put in that on a baseline looks towny (because people TR effort a lot) but on the stuff that is AI in and of itself? Not much, I suppose the conversation about Nero was the most interesting thing said in the thread so far besides the busywork questions.

In post 306, Cape90 wrote:

In post 305, Cape90 wrote:Can you elaborate on why Maria is scum? I don't super get Maria's take in 245 calling my posts not fuzzy so it's easy not to like it?

Would just like to point out that Fennec's posts have not been fluffy and yet literally everyone is calling Fennec towny. What's the difference Maria?

In post 55, Fennec wrote:Alright Post 50 or so reads (Take all with a grain of salt by a massive quantity, its too early to get full reads)

Cape - Pulling a lot of reads out the backside. and scum do that a lot. also, its so early so I doubt you can get any "I'll Explain Later" Level reads. Generally can't tell between town/scum with this guy. its hard to read him.
Frog - He is actually asking some important questions, and his reads aren't out his backside too much. I'm Leaning to town with him.
Nero Cain - I can't accurately get a read off him, but he feels dodgy.
SirRhett - Starts off with a joke, just like in the newbie game he is in. although, that joke is a bit different. in the game he did that joke (It was basically joking around that he was scum because his predecessor was read as scum quite early on) and was a bit like a pair like in that game. this read relies on that game he is in to progress more foward though, but i do have a meta read that i can't say is town/scum at the same time, because that game isn't over yet. Although, this is a resource that I might use to read him, the game is like D1, so this is the one to take the most grains of salt (For now at least!)
Everyone else? Needs to post more, and I need to read a little more about them and their meta first.

In post 72, Fennec wrote:Yeah i went from Town-Leaning to Null to Scum-Leaning for cape within 30 posts. I was finding it kinda dodgy but could of been town, but now I'm thinking it is plain dodgy. none of them made sense and were literally 20-30 posts in. and yes Early/Late blah blah can be true mattering on the player no surprise there. And also, Frog seems Town-Leaning to me, and I fully agree with him. also, the Post 69 is Dodgy as all hell.

VOTE: Cape

In post 69, Cape90 wrote: You are being swayed by Nero of all people?

In post 356, Greeting wrote:I have cut him some slack for being a newbie, but I don't think Fennec is sounding towny at all in this game. The recent annoyance is like, the most genuine-looking thing I've seen from this slot. Other than that it doesn't seem to me like he's reading the thread that much at all, and some of his stances actually don't make sense to me at all.

In post 357, Cape90 wrote:

In post 356, Greeting wrote:I have cut him some slack for being a newbie, but I don't think Fennec is sounding towny at all in this game. The recent annoyance is like, the most genuine-looking thing I've seen from this slot. Other than that it doesn't seem to me like he's reading the thread that much at all, and some of his stances actually don't make sense to me at all.

How do you even get that impression from the Fennec slot, I think Fennec is very clearly reading the room

In post 290, Fennec wrote:Ok. Your clear of the questions for now nero, because as i read through and your more current responses were posted, Your fucking RIGHT.

So Can I have some answers, some shit from
Cape, Frog, Maria, Charloux
Maria could be a Town that was used as a reason to pivot off, or just plain scum. Probably the Former, but the Latter is likely.
Charloux is a very minor suspicion, But i do think you should answer some of the things Save put out.
Frog had a bit of a fucking random pivot to a guy that isn't even here, then when maria voted accused nero with cape and then voted them for some pretty dogshit reasons. also my questions in my question post would be nice to see answered
Cape, If I rated Scum to town on a scale of -10 to +10 (- being scummy, + being town) You are like -5 to -7. I'm Betting 90% you'd flip scum. a flip from you gives a massive set of information to work with for D2, If you'd flip town or scum you'd still give a lot of information for D2.

I'm Gonna propose this
Cape, Frog, Maria, Charloux, Greeting, Nero, Crescent. Between this group, I'd say you'd have 2-4 Mafia here. within this core group of people for sure you'd find at least 2, probably 3.

Between them, I'd rate

Most Likely To Flip Town (This bar is basically Null/Null-Leaning)
Nero
Crescent (Definitely a Null Read, ever so slightly to town as they were randomly swerved on when they aren't even fucking here)
Charloux
Maria
Frog
Greeting

MASSIVE FUCKING GAP HERE

Cape
Least Likely To Flip Town

Also, Cape why the fuck are you thinking it is so dodgy to vote greeting? and why greeting are you somehow thinking cape is town from your perspective? also, Most of your reads ended up being some of the closer to Null or Scum people in the list too in that early set, and how were you able to judge one post as evil or townie? tell me. I asked it 250 posts ago, still wondering it now.

Also maria here is the post i want you to read a little behind and then a little foward for what I mean

In post 117, MariaR wrote:Glad to see out of the 100 posts almost none of them were that helpful given how objectively nai they were

but hey VOTE: Nero it wasn't all that bad

if you read, Frog goes from Cape to Swerving to crescent randomly then completely agrees with cape on nero just around the page before and the next 2 pages after, with most of that action taking place in this page.

In post 288, MariaR wrote:I don't think I've even been pushing you that hard, kinda just been stating I have a wolfread on you and keeping my vote on you, I don't think my contributions have done much in the way to get you voted, do you care about it that badly?

Switching my vote to Gamma is an option, but that isn't going to go anywhere and the other main option is cape who I don't agree with. Of course, I could start my own wagon but that's effort.
pedit: mmmm I don't have a problem with you being aggressive, we've played together enough that I know that's just your style of play I just don't think the way you've held conversations are coming from a villa mindset early in the game. Sure, you're overly defensive (and that's fine you're being pushed) but I'm not digging it.

Where should I be voting again?

In post 296, MariaR wrote:@Fennec


So basically you're saying you don't think Frogs thinking is real, right? I do think if Nero is a villager Frog is a wolf because of the way they handled that sideline middle ground here and it looked partly advantageous. Like, if both of them are a villager I would be quite surprised. Frog's trap posting of saying if I unvote Nero we're partners is really bad.

Anyway, Gamma's posting is pretty weak and as someone who can read Gamma pretty well, what are your thoughts on them? I feel like Gamma and MT need to have a bit more of a spotlight then they're given because the loud voices are drowning everything else out at the moment.

In post 314, Frogsterking wrote:

@Crescent voters

Let's get Maria D1.

In post 312, KittyTacky wrote:

In post 264, Fennec wrote: Kitty - You have no Questions. Congrats. Maybe talk a little more too.

Will do.

Kitty's fine, you can help get Maria run up though.

In post 331, Fennec wrote:My avatar is a wolf to ya? I'm gonna ignore the big massive ears, the yellow pelt coloration, how small it is, and the tail. It's a fennec fox. I can understand kinda how you could mix that up, but at the same time can't.

In post 332, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 331, Fennec wrote:I can understand kinda how you could mix that up, but at the same time can't.

As a player with the username frogsterking and an avatar featuring batman, I don't.

In post 339, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 333, Fennec wrote:also, by my idea of openwolfing, You are openly, Signalling to your scumteam. If it means to you something different, tell me

Prioritizing thread disruption over being at all believable as a Townie. Like you don't care if you get voted out early as long as you are so annoying you prevent a proper Town Core from finding each other.

In post 311, KittyTacky wrote: You answered your own question.

In post 344, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you're breaking up frogster's posts so he can't just monologue endlessly about what kind of cereal he had in the morning

In post 356, Greeting wrote:So, I have double checked and by post 55, Frogsterking actually didn't ask a single question. Which is why I was really surprised when Frogsterking posted 62. Like?!?!

In post 356, Greeting wrote:So, I have double checked and by post 55, Frogsterking actually didn't ask a single question. Which is why I was really surprised when Frogsterking posted 62. Like?!?!

In post 47, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 33, Cape90 wrote:Frogsterking - "I may or may not post my survey start"

Gamma Emerald - Comment on elaborating something later.

Speaking of moving the game forward, cape can you justify townleaning these two above in some way that makes it seem like you

didn't

just throw a bunch of names together?