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In post 344, Bennings~ wrote:

In post 324, Palmer~ wrote:I don't really get the town reads on Childs, he is still firmly in my null pile.

did you plan on continuing this thought or?

There isn't really anything to continue there. I was hoping that my comment would make reactions happen that help me read Childs, or anyone else. I don't think that has happened, though.

In post 351, petapan wrote:Norris (4): Nauls, Lars, Copper, Childs
Clark (3): MacReady, Garry, Blair
Copper (3): Clark, Bennings, Windows

Man, do these wagons give me a bad feeling.

VOTE: Windows

In post 353, Palmer~ wrote:

In post 351, petapan wrote:Norris (4): Nauls, Lars, Copper, Childs
Clark (3): MacReady, Garry, Blair
Copper (3): Clark, Bennings, Windows

Man, do these wagons give me a bad feeling.

VOTE: Windows

I often see splits like this as "at least one of them is a scum being voted"

yet you voted outside of them

Sorry, life was kind of a bitch yesterday. I'll try to get caught back up soon.

If you read my posts, you will notice that I don't scumread any of the three wagons! And I DO scumread multiple people voting for those wagons!

In addition to that, I do not care about baseless VCA!

In post 356, Palmer~ wrote:If you read my posts, you will notice that I don't scumread any of the three wagons! And I DO scumread multiple people voting for those wagons!

In addition to that, I do not care about baseless VCA!

what is VCA?

I'm not saying you necessarily have to scumread them btw, I'm just saying odds are one of those is correct

Vote count analysis.

Why are the odds that one of those is correct? Besides the pure mathematical probability, which is true for any group of 3.

In post 358, Palmer~ wrote:Vote count analysis.

Why are the odds that one of those is correct? Besides the pure mathematical probability, which is true for any group of 3.

first of, i said at least 1 we could also be looking at 2 things being judged which could explain why the game feels like a gun stand off right now

second, there's 3 things and 3 people voting outside of the 3 main wagons what's more possible that the things are all outside or inside?

of course it is more possible they are inside, , which in my eyes gives you, fuchs and windows +town,

third, why isn't there a larger wagon but it's split if all of this players are fairly active? is not like you can't make a case for any of the 3...

this my friend means that we are probably looking at a 2 town-1scum or 1 town-2scum split wagons

this is my hypothesis, things are strugling to push for a town vote.

if i put myself out of the equation it's 9 people to look at

I meant norris not windows, despite the fact that I'm voting him

Or maybe these are three town wagons and the things don't give two shits about pushing town wagons when there's no threat for them. But I dunno.

In post 362, Palmer~ wrote:Or maybe these are three town wagons and the things don't give two shits about pushing town wagons when there's no threat for them. But I dunno.

what are the odds of that?

for me it's pretty slim

UNVOTE:

In post 324, Palmer~ wrote:I don't really get the town reads on Childs, he is still firmly in my null pile.

@MacReady, do you scum read anyone other than Clark?

Not to the same degree, but Copper, Bennings, and Windows

I can vote Windows as well, but I don't really want the wagon on Clark to do due to disinterest - I think the slit is pretty scummy, and Clark 2.0 has done nothing to redeem the slot

In post 279, Clark~ wrote:

In post 277, Blair~ wrote:which read did you disagree with and why does it make them mafia?

Garry and it doesn't. I don't have a strong scum read on anyone yet.

are you making progress on this

In post 102, Bennings~ wrote:Too scummy to be scum is a possibility, yeah, but that reads more like virtue signaling to me.

on a re-read this feels like Bennings is slipping that Clark is Mafia.

like in context it is about:

In post 99, Bennings~ wrote:Oh you meant the opposite?

@Norris

It reads like someone simulating town behavior with the "not really ready to move any wagon to E-1" thing. Commenting for the sake of commenting.

I don't think it's a "virtue" to E-1 someone if that vote target is town? It only makes sense imo to call it virtue signaling if you think the player being voted is mafia - but he doesn't state he thinks Clark is Mafia.

actually on second thought I don't think it's that relevant because it could just be about E-1ing in general and not about Clark's alignment in this particular game.

I spent ~30 minutes re-reading and I like the following players so far for town:
MacReady, Fuchs, Garry, Childs, Nauls, Lars, Windows.

Thinking more about Norris trolling and refusing to answer the question about which post made him think Clark is a Newb and not having an answer I feel like it might be somewhat more susp as if they had read it somewhere else like in the Mafia PT and subconsciously put it into their head then they might have slipped so it's not just trolling but possibly covering up a slip. I am fine with voting there if we want that

Why do you think Windows is townie?

In post 362, Palmer~ wrote:Or maybe these are three town wagons and the things don't give two shits about pushing town wagons when there's no threat for them. But I dunno.

I think there will always be more resistance on a scum wagon because the bussing incentives don't exist in this game - you can't really get towncred in a game where scum can jump into townread slots. So there's no incentive to bus your teammates to look good because looking good isn't useful.

On the flip side there IS incentive to hard defend your teammates for shitty reasons because associatives don't help as much when you can just jump out of your own body if your teammate gets flipped - you don't have to worry about looking bad

In post 370, MacReady~ wrote:Why do you think Windows is townie?

I thought his "reasoning" for thinking I am mafia is too stupid for a mafia player to make up.

People who are limmed do flip, so I don't quite follow what you mean about bussing incentives

In post 372, Blair~ wrote:

In post 370, MacReady~ wrote:Why do you think Windows is townie?

I thought his "reasoning" for thinking I am mafia is too stupid for a mafia player to make up.

And I guess, I think it's actually something scum might latch onto though, for lack of anything better