Mini 116: Trigger Mafia Concluded

[Otaku376]

Scale? he isn't playing...

vote: tam

I would like to hear from her at the least.

[Totem]

I'm going to have to reread.

Meanwhile, Totem, are you still a donut? Jaguar, do you have any results for us?

WOHA! I am not a donut anymore. Investigate me. I now have quite usefull trigger.
What do we do now?

[Yaw]

Even with the investigation, I'd much rather see everyone here and contributing before we lynch. With 2 of 4 votes, we need a claim from Tam.

We also need a correction from Jaguar. Scalebane isn't in this game.

[Jaguar]

Doh. I meant Shady. Not Scale. Getting my games confused

[shadyforce]

August 1st, I'll post like a madman. That's 21 hours from now.

[Tam]

Eep, I'm not bad. You're magic 8-ball must be faulty or sadistic or summat.

Claim? Ummm, what is there to claim, really? I did hit a trigger the night before last, and am happy to tell what it was now that it's gone... I had 1 night (last night) of doc protection from a night kill.

Hmmm, not really sure what else I can say...except, just to clarify, Jaguar, you're saying that you found me bad and shady good?

Also, I feel a little better that our donut friend has turned and now welcomes investigation. I really wasn't going for the whole donut story, and thought the warning against cops to be a safety mechanism, but I feel more secure, as long as

someone does actually investigate him

. (It'd be a great double bluff to be mafia and come back saying it's ok now, wouldn't it?)

[Tam]

Errrr, and yeah, do you guys mind unvoting me so that the town at least gets a chance to talk before I'm lynched? Like 4 people have spoken and you two have me at 2 out of 4 votes, with no baddies dead, so 2 left.

[Yaw]

So what are you

now

, Tam?

[Tam]

I'm not anything. I guess I didn't talk enough yesterday to get a new one.

[Yaw]

Only four posts yesterday, but they are kind of wordy. I'm not really buying this, but I won't vote yet because we have yet to hear from Willows and Shady.

[Tigris]

Vote Count

(+/- 3 votes)
tam (2)-jaguar and otaku

not voting: shady, tam, totem, willows, yaw

[shadyforce]

Well new best buddy Jaguar... I'll get right to the point. I don't believe you. I think you are lying. I am fairly sure you are scum, and more than that, I am fairly sure you are a serial killer.

I just think what's happened so far is quite unusual. She claims cop, and everyone suddenly believes her. I never fully believed her, as I think her claim was a cop-out, to get pressure off her. It was an act of desperation.

She happens to investigate the only person no longer alive and able to refute that investigation. She also comes up with some radical role.

Now, she knows people are unlikely to believe her so she decides to play along with that. Suddenly she realises that there was halucinogenic white powder on the detective kit all along. Neglected to mention that before or did you not know? Very convenient that our Mod suddenly and spontaniously decided to bless you with more information. Was he as nice to anyone else? Not to me anyway, as despite many many attempts to squeeze more info out of him, he never budged.

But hey! If we're not going to believe me as a detective anymore, let's reinvent myself, and claim to have found a NEW detective item, a BETTER one, one that's SURE to be perfect, just as perfect as the last one, eh? How do you know there isn't invisible white powder on this one?

I think Jaguar has been blessed with far too many convenient strokes of luck for my liking. The most probable solution is that Jaguar is lying, and I'm sticking my neck on the line, and following my 'hunch'.

Vote: Jaguar

Can I still be your best buddy?

[Otaku376]

Actually, the fact that the mod blessed her with more information is what made me want to believe her more. It had happened to me. I want to ask one question though Jaguar, what did the mod have you do to learn that about your role?

[Jaguar]

I had an option to find out the trigger word or find out more about my item. I decided to go for finding out more about the item because Leprechaun was too weird a result.

Shady, I know you're innocent, so I won't be voting for you. If you choose not to believe me, that is your perogative, but ultimately not a good decision on your part.

Tam, I picked Shady on night 2 because I was pretty confident he wasn't scum and sure enough, the result came back that he was ok. You on the other hand have been giving me scummy vibes and I decided to investigate you on night 3.

For now my vote stays.

[Yaw]

Though I'll admit a magic 8-ball is an odd way to find scum, I'm convinced enough of Tam's guilt to vote that way. I will be doing so once Willows gets here. Even with the result, I'd prefer to drag this day out until everyone can contribute.

[Tam]

Right. So Yaw, care to elaborate on why you're so sure of my guilt? And what exactly are you 'not buying'? That I didn't hit another trigger? Is there a reason that you think I hit a new one, or what? Has everyone gotten triggers every night? I doubt it. I guess I just don't get why that would even be unbelievable, as it was only a guess on my part. I wasn't given a new trigger, so that was my guess as to why - I didn't hit one... Why would I lie about that?

I personally am starting to look at shady and jaguar...jaguar goes after me, covers for shady, then shady comes back with a great 'i'm not with that guy' defense and votes him.

[willows_weep]

Interesting.
An eightball that gives you no room for interpretation?
Simply (if it can even be said so) a good or bad result?

Sucks about that library.

I'm willing to vote tam. If not for that night info(yes I know there is possibility its faked/etc) but because hmm...you just sort of seem like maybe you're scum.

Not to crazy about Yaw either but not for the same reasons

mmm Con was fun

[Yaw]

Well, I was actually willing to follow the cop. You know, since there are two scum according to Tigris, we aren't in a lynch-or-lose situation where it's likely that investigation would be faked. It might be wrong due to the Magic 8-Ball thing, but since my scum-catching abilities have been completely thrown off by the nature of the game (it's

really

hard to figure out who is town and who is scum when everyone's role is in a state of flux), I have to be willing to trust the instincts and reasoning of others more than I normally would.

Looking back through the past day, I did find some incriminating stuff, though. For example:

Also, anyone who would protect themselves every single night is a coward and anti-town in my eyes. I can see protecting yourself on a night when you were under discussion a bit that day and it looked like you might actually be attacked, but to do it every night to ensure your own survival is just sad.

Really? I know the trigger you're claiming isn't exactly like BlueSin's, but it's pretty similar. Were you under discussion on day 1? Not really. Then why use the one-shot and not save it? Looks like you're going against your own logic here. This is besides the fact that you attacked BlueSin for doing something that you did, with a similar trigger.

if scum found medicine why would they use it on themselves?

Ummm why wouldn't they? Is there some reason that I don't see that they would want to try and save an innocent's life? Even if I were a baddie, I'd still think medicine that I found was good for the target...and therefore would not target someone else.

Which is sort of along the lines of admitting you're scum in this case.

Vote: Tam

since everyone's here now. That's 3 of 4.

[Tam]

I'm not sure what you're going on about, Yaw. That's just plain silly. I didn't choose when to use my trigger. It was a one night thing that i had last night. I thought I made that clear, maybe I didn't. It was a limited trigger that ran out. I wasn't given an option of when to use it.

And, what are you even talking about in the second quote? Where did I say I was scum?

I think you're gung-ho lynch attitude is scummy as hell, Yaw. I want some actual reasons why you think I'm bad, not just bs.

[Yaw]

I'm not sure what you're going on about, Yaw. That's just plain silly. I didn't choose when to use my trigger. It was a one night thing that i had last night. I thought I made that clear, maybe I didn't. It was a limited trigger that ran out. I wasn't given an option of when to use it.

This doesn't even make sense. What kind of doc role

forces

you to choose to protect yourself every night? Especially when it's a one-shot? I can understand a bulletproof vest role being like this (although it would either be always on in a passive sense, or you'd get a choice of what night to wear it), but that, by definition, is

not

doc protection, as you claimed.

And, what are you even talking about in the second quote? Where did I say I was scum?

Because you're scum, and you decided to use medicine you found on yourself -- assuming that's what really happened. You were blaming BlueSin for the exact thing that you were doing. Either you knew at the time about your doc trigger, and are a scummy hypocrite, or you didn't, and are really naive if you think that this town isn't willing to lynch again on the logic that strung up BlueSin, especially when it's advocated by one of those that voted for him.

[shadyforce]

No Yaw, you're wrong. Tam hasn't got doc abilities. I'm sure she just used the word doc to illustrate what kind of power she had, but she's not a doc. She had a once off night immunity. Now this would resemble a one-shot doc protection that must be used on yourself, and that's how she described it, but if you look for a sec and see what she's really seeing, you'll see what she actually had. It is not the same as BlueSin as BlueSin explicitly said he chose to protect himself, whereas Tam had automatic protection for one night.

Get your facts right.

[Jaguar]

Well, one way to see if my magic 8 ball is telling the truth is to lynch one of the two people that I've investigated with it. Shady came back as good and Tam as bad, so take your pick.

I still think that lynching Tam is better than lynching Shady.

[Tigris]

Right, so vote count thingy *purrs at it, vote count bites back O_o, ;_;* meh, tired, so insaner then usual

Vote Count:

Tam (3)- Jaguar, Otaku, and Yaw
Jaguar (1)- Shady

not voting: willows, tam, and totem
Mod Note: Totem's last post on this site was in this game, so aware it's been a few days, just hope he's okay =^_^=

[Yaw]

Sheesh. Tam explicitly stated she had doc protection. If she had something else, why would she claim she had doc protection? Besides which, I stated at first that what Tam was claiming was

analogous

to what BlueSin did.

Happy to hear you're looking into Totem's situation, mod. I was about to ask for a prod. Hope he's fine too, and posts soon.

[Tam]

I really don't see your problem with this, Yaw. I searched my shack-like house and found a package of bandages, but found there to be only one bandage left, and it looked rather old and beaten, so could only be used that night. That is basically what my trigger said, now to me that is called a one shot doc protection that only stays for that particular night. I had no choice what night, or anyone else to use it on.

Frankly I find it rich that you suggest I'm dumb enough to contradict myself so blatantly. Thanks a lot.

*blonde, not stupid*

Vote Yaw