Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Joey_]

i mean, if he's town he's not that much of a twat. he got Dunker.

i have to go look because Gamma nearly got lynched on a guilty that Shaziro would know isn't valid.

Dunker was a non issue after the creature flip, the koki shot was a wild guess and a very very very uninformed one

[brassherald]

The other NK last night was directed at me, Nero probably Jailkept me.

Shaziro, why didn't you vig Gamma, then?

[Joey_]

Maybe nero jailed last red tonight ? this could explain 1 less NK

[BuJaber]

Considering brass and joey are in the game I find it unlikely they'd overlap. Is it really that important to kill nero/koki?

[BuJaber]

The other NK last night was directed at me, Nero probably Jailkept me.

Shaziro, why didn't you vig Gamma, then?

Wait do you know this for a fact?

[Chara]

The other NK last night was directed at me, Nero probably Jailkept me.

Shaziro, why didn't you vig Gamma, then?

you have confirmation somehow that you were targeted for a kill?
pedit: haha.

[BuJaber]

Vig isn't a terrible claim for orange scum.

[Joey_]

Gamma wasnt a soft guitly only in Shaziro pov @brass

[brassherald]

I don't have confirmation, but it's common sense. Nero was yelling the entire Day 1 to let the Town Protectives protect me. I mean, it's kind of obvious.

[BuJaber]

That's exactly why they'd probably avoid you.

[Joey_]

Vig isn't a terrible claim for orange scum.

Yes it is, because if hes last orange hes basically in auto loss, he cannot claim 1 kill outside the mafia

[BuJaber]

I mean it's the classic wifom situation of do they risk losing the kill or not. Protectives and scum trying to outsmart each other.

Pedit - I feel like I'm missing something fundamental but could you explain that a different way?

[Joey_]

I mean it's the classic wifom situation of do they risk losing the kill or not. Protectives and scum trying to outsmart each other.

Pedit - I feel like I'm missing something fundamental but could you explain that a different way?

Okay so

Theres always 1xOrange + 1xRed nightkill power correct? We know from N1 theres either 3 night kill power in game OR elbirn killed himself for visiting scum

If Shaz is mafia then he wont be able to claim a 3rd nightkill power down the road since obviously he wouldnt be able to kill 2 person per night. Also roleblocking Shaz as last mafia on his team would make him in auto loss just from being embargoed(assuming it roleblock)/jailed because then the kill of his faction would cease

Im not sure if im being clear, but basically if Shaz can prove he can make a 3third kill he cannot be part of any group scum, he can be 3p or vig

[Gamma Emerald]

Caesar Wills It replaces Ranmaru.

Oh hi pine, hope you don't mind having replaced into a scum slot
VOTE: Caeser Wills It
With Ranmaru never catching up I can only conclude her push was manufactured bullshit.

[Gamma Emerald]

so we're doing this then. i'd figured Kokichi was Commuter but that makes sense too.

pedit: honestly at this point i would agree. with Joey's claim already out and Kokichi and Nero dead the number of unclaimed slots is low enough scum already have a good idea anyway. i wish we hadn't had as many claims yesterday as we did, but. well.

i still don't feel Gamma's scum but without a town explanation for that extra death night 1 i think it's the only real option.

Well if we do massclaim we can find out if we have a vig
plus we have a jk it's very likely a kill was blocked/protected last night
as for me I docced brass last night

[Gamma Emerald]

Since we know there was a neighborhood, I was added to it last night. I think Kiana and I agreed that mass claims are bad.

That being said, I think before we start lynching, let's get the World Congress done again.

FYI, I will not be telling people who else is in the neighborhood, don't ask.

Um I think it's very obvious it's you + Joey at this point

[BuJaber]

I mean it's the classic wifom situation of do they risk losing the kill or not. Protectives and scum trying to outsmart each other.

Pedit - I feel like I'm missing something fundamental but could you explain that a different way?

Okay so

Theres always 1xOrange + 1xRed nightkill power correct? We know from N1 theres either 3 night kill power in game OR elbirn killed himself for visiting scum

If Shaz is mafia then he wont be able to claim a 3rd nightkill power down the road since obviously he wouldnt be able to kill 2 person per night. Also roleblocking Shaz as last mafia on his team would make him in auto loss just from being embargoed(assuming it roleblock)/jailed because then the kill of his faction would cease

Im not sure if im being clear, but basically if Shaz can prove he can make a 3third kill he cannot be part of any group scum, he can be 3p or vig

Crystal. Thank you.

Shaz is vig.

Woot I got 1 read right.

[Gamma Emerald]

i'd like to point out a 1-shot commuter doesn't CC a full commuter. even if Gamma's scum.

but, yes, in light of this specific set of circumstances, you were right, i'm wrong, yadda yadda. sorry Kokichi.

I would also like to apologize to Kokichi, I understand you had a reason to suspect me then even though it wasn't that valid.

[Joey_]

Resolutions

Spoiler:

DAY 1

[

Ban Luxury

~ Silk]

PASSES

The World Congress will monitor its effects going forward, but angry letters from textile manufacturers and sex workers alike have already started pouring in.

Effect(s) Unknown.

[

Congressional Peace-keeping

~ brassherald]

PASSES

The World Congress sends its peace-keeping forces to

brassherald

's Civilization, a move that is sure to curtail aggression in the region.

brassherald receives Protection Night 1.

DAY 2

Temporary Ban Gold

[/i]

PASSES

ivilizations around the world will monitor its effects going forward, but already it appears that the very wealthy and very religious are being hit hard by the move away from the gold standard. Effect(s) Unknown.

Temporary Ban of Ivory

 

PASSES

The World Congress is applauded for its conservation efforts, and animal rights activists begin contacting member Civilizations about expanding other initiatives around the world. No gameplay effect(s)

Spoiler: Day 2 Options

DAY 2

1.

[Temporary Ban Gold]

[/i] (non-consec)

IMO hinting at kills in some ways, apparently you might get gold for blood. Also hinting that gold is linked to Religion and that Religious Gold is especially bad.

2.

[Temporary Ban Ivory]

(non-consec)

Saying that it lasted too long and that it's one of the worst thing humanity is doing to the nature. Elephant and rhinos are endangered (Africa?)

3.

[Temporary Ban Furs]

(non-consec)

2 Italian and 1 American clothing brands listed implying they are the leaders in the fur trade. Banning Furs can help protect those animals that are close to extinction, none animal are hinted.

4.

[Embargo Nation]

(non-consec, cannot self assign delegates)

Implies that the World Congress is going to act on said Nation and that is more than just denunciation.

5.

[Embargo City States]

(permanent, can be repealed)

This one is actually interesting. it says that the City States are really small and that they makes the global politics more complex and that it can interfere with the politic of the others bigger and powerful civilisation. IMO this could mean that there is 3p players with 3P win-con and Town win con. This one could shut-down their 3p win-con, in that way it would make the Global Politics simpler between the bigger and more powerful civilisations (Mafia and Town ?)

6.

Protection of Natural Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

 
Hinted to be linked to Culture (?). It says that we should protect the Cultural Natural Wonders around the world. Maybe it will affect everyone ?

7.

Recognition of World Wonders

(permanent, can be repealed)

In the same ways, it says that there is a Word Wonder in each and every Civ, might affect everyone ?

8.

Funding Arts

(non-consec)

It says that Art in general and around the world will get a boost and will flourish. The Resolution is to make or oppose the making of a program about art in every Civ.

9.

Funding Science

(non-consec, can self assign delegates)

This one is interesting too because it's not what i thought it was before reading the description myself.
Basically it says the the Science in general, around the world, will get a boost and will flourish. But, the resolution is about supporting or opposiong 1 Civ to talk about making a program about science in their own Civ. So this might actually boost Science scum even if we target the IC.

Gamestate 2.1

Alive

14/21

Spoiler:

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig or SK	Catholic Spreader ?	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader ?	?	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ? ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Dead

7/21

Spoiler:

Elbirn	Kokichi Oma	ActionDan	NeroCain
Weak Permanent BG	Neihborizer	VT	JK
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Varsoon
Role Cop
▓▓▓▓
Creature	Dunkerdoodles
Role Blocker	Pagan Spreader
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓

Spoiler: My reads

[

Brassherald
Innocent Child
▓▓▓▓
Joey	Chara
Commuter	?
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Kiana Kaslana	Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	VT	JOAT	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Jodaxq
Vig or SK	Catholic Spreader	Self Random Inventor
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓
Almost50	Marshy	Ranmaru	Titus
Taoism Spreader	Protestant Spreader	?	?
▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓ ▓▓▓▓

Changes : Added shaz's claim

[BuJaber]

Looks like we're back to ran/klazam who I would have preferred to AD anyway. Not that AD was bad per se.

And honestly klazam sheeping AD so comically like that might attract too much attention as scum. Probably less likely to flip scum compared to ran slot.

VOTE: ceasar / pine

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: gamma emerald

caesar can go too simply cuz ran flakes as scum

the fucking religion spreads were blocked by world congress. what the fuck

I fucking called religion spreads getting stopped by the resolution

[Joey_]

I disgress, now that gamma is proven not-soft guilted, its much much more likely his town which gives even more credit to my klazoum case

@Chara what do you think ?

[BuJaber]

I'm not opposed to klazam. You made a good case and nero made a good case again ran.

[brassherald]

Since we know there was a neighborhood, I was added to it last night. I think Kiana and I agreed that mass claims are bad.

That being said, I think before we start lynching, let's get the World Congress done again.

FYI, I will not be telling people who else is in the neighborhood, don't ask.

Um I think it's very obvious it's you + Joey at this point

What if I revealed that it was not joey?

[Gamma Emerald]

Dear Caesar,

Fuck off with this gimmick, or I will start with a gimmick of my own and read all your posts as mouth farts until we lynch you.

Sincerely,
Pedro II, Brazilian Carnival Thrower.

If peacekeeping comes back today then you should be made host not me

It should, it's non-consecutive so it's the mechanically sound assumption