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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:18 pm
by midwaybear
In post 3493, Maid Cafe wrote:Let me ask, minus that claim how do you feel about them? I feel like it's NAI and I can go into more details on why if you wish.
Oh, are your reasons similar to April?
I guess I had Alisae as somewhat scummy on virtue of finding none of eir posts particularly townie. There was nothing that I could see a solid town process to.

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:18 pm
by Alisae
In post 3493, Maid Cafe wrote:Let me ask, minus that claim how do you feel about them? I feel like it's NAI and I can go into more details on why if you wish.
how do you feel about them

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:19 pm
by Maid Cafe
Okay at least I know Remi is still a confident wolf read based off that

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:21 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
Go on

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:22 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 3496, PlusJOYED wrote:420 is playing *just* enough to avoid being replaced which gets on my nerves tbh. every post he's made is very close to being a prodge
If Alisae gets to use the “i came into this game late!” Excuse from getting here around, I’ll double check after, but I believe it was mid 20’s,

Then you have to use the same reasoning for 420, who came in far later

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:22 pm
by midwaybear
hey something smart what are you thinking?

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:23 pm
by April Ludgate
Alisae came page 33

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:23 pm
by morph the cat
In post 3494, Maid Cafe wrote:
In post 3492, Remilia Scarlet wrote:I think 420 is just not playing. I don't think we're going to get anything reasonable out of that slot as it currently stands. I agree w/ Bulge on this.
What's the dif between 420 slot and our slot?
Prism's content was above the null line, slightly into town.

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:23 pm
by Maid Cafe
In post 3500, midwaybear wrote:
In post 3493, Maid Cafe wrote:Let me ask, minus that claim how do you feel about them? I feel like it's NAI and I can go into more details on why if you wish.
Oh, are your reasons similar to April?
I guess I had Alisae as somewhat scummy on virtue of finding none of eir posts particularly townie. There was nothing that I could see a solid town process to.
My reasons are that Alisae is the best information flip. Well that was the reason when I made the vote itself. But I think there reads list shifting was very opportunistic as well.

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:24 pm
by April Ludgate
420 came page 54, and also one week ago.

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:25 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 3508, Maid Cafe wrote:
In post 3500, midwaybear wrote:
In post 3493, Maid Cafe wrote:Let me ask, minus that claim how do you feel about them? I feel like it's NAI and I can go into more details on why if you wish.
Oh, are your reasons similar to April?
I guess I had Alisae as somewhat scummy on virtue of finding none of eir posts particularly townie. There was nothing that I could see a solid town process to.
My reasons are that Alisae is the best information flip. Well that was the reason when I made the vote itself. But I think there reads list shifting was very opportunistic as well.
They are the best information flip, but I would still like it to be said that they are scum equity so the fact that they are the best information flip is actually a big BONUS reason, not the main reason by any means.

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:25 pm
by Maid Cafe
In post 3507, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3494, Maid Cafe wrote:
In post 3492, Remilia Scarlet wrote:I think 420 is just not playing. I don't think we're going to get anything reasonable out of that slot as it currently stands. I agree w/ Bulge on this.
What's the dif between 420 slot and our slot?
Prism's content was above the null line, slightly into town.
Strong disagree

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:26 pm
by Alisae
In post 3508, Maid Cafe wrote:But I think there reads list shifting was very opportunistic as well.
How is this stronger then your meta read?

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:27 pm
by April Ludgate
Town Alisae would be able to go up and at me. ScumAlisae who knows I’m town ignores everything because the playstyle is too erratic for them to handle as scum

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:29 pm
by PlusJOYED
In post 3507, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3494, Maid Cafe wrote:
In post 3492, Remilia Scarlet wrote:I think 420 is just not playing. I don't think we're going to get anything reasonable out of that slot as it currently stands. I agree w/ Bulge on this.
What's the dif between 420 slot and our slot?
Prism's content was above the null line, slightly into town.
disagree on that one

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:30 pm
by April Ludgate
@Midwaybear - what are your thoughts on me completely telling the future when I said Morph voted Alisae so someone would unvote because too close to hammer, and would unvote after someone unvoted.

Morph voting Alisae got you to Unvote, and then Morph unvoted. That brought Alisae back to -3 instead of -1

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:32 pm
by April Ludgate
I also called out they were setting up more momentum for a Maria wagon around the same time, which also came to fruition

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:32 pm
by zMuffinMan
what did you dislike about prism again?
and can you detail the read progression on alisae? because from what i can tell it was a meta town read that beeboy told you wasn't all that strong but now it's an actual scum read? or? what was the town read based on?

@mariaboy

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:34 pm
by PlusJOYED
anyways im headed to bed gn

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:51 pm
by Maid Cafe
You've proven in your iso that you can be logical/make well thought out statements. I don't see how you reach the previous conclusion as town. It makes perfect sense as scum though

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:57 pm
by Maid Cafe
In post 3517, zMuffinMan wrote:what did you dislike about prism again?
and can you detail the read progression on alisae? because from what i can tell it was a meta town read that beeboy told you wasn't all that strong but now it's an actual scum read? or? what was the town read based on?

@mariaboy
You should be able to check early in the maria ISO on what I dislike about prism.

The Alisae read went from:

Townread via meta>Beeboy comes in and tells me they don't rely tr Alisae so they're nulltown>Everyone wants to vote them so I think I could be wrong and vote them>the reads list looks like trying to buddy and failing so somewhat wolfy

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:16 pm
by zMuffinMan
beeboy was null on alisae? and you told him what the meta read was based on?

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:18 pm
by zMuffinMan
you didn't really explain the prism read beyond thinking some approach was more likely to come from scum than town but i never really understood what you were referring to specifically

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:13 pm
by Bell
Image

Alisae, Plusjoyed, 420, Maid Cafe.
Think there's scum/more than one scum in there?

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:15 pm
by Bell
I guess my PoE pool right now is that +Bulge/TV.

If the entire scum team isn't in that, one of them is working hard!