Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:33 pm
Peta, do you have a solve to propose without me in it?
No, but the way I’m tryharding does. Also, purely the level of effort I’ve put in is, at a raw level, town indicative for me. I’m not gonna day clearing, because I’ve made lots of posts as scum before, but I don’t think I’m this driving as scum or this active, and it’s not so easy for me to do over and over again like I have whenever I’ve been under suspicion and have needed to explain why I’m not scum.In post 3499, petapan wrote:tryharding doesn't make you town and the fact that we're in the situation we're in would make sense if the dominant voice in the room was scumIn post 3495, Menalque wrote:Yeah, again, why? What is not towny about me other than there being a soft guilty? Who has done more to try and move this game along, to engage people, and to solve than me?In post 3473, petapan wrote:because i don't fucking townread them lmfao
for the hundredth time -In post 3501, Menalque wrote:You have tied yourself to Dave by vouching for him and saying he can’t be the scum here.
(S_S, infinity, me) for anyone who doesn’t have access to my role PMIn post 3506, Menalque wrote:I know you’re not, but that inherently means the scum /must/ be in (S_S, infinity) if true
i'd say the former is more likely, but it's still a lot of guesswork to pinpoint scum's exact motivations when there are so many moving parts to this setup.In post 3483, Infinity 324 wrote:@hoopla Do you think scum playing ~weirdly~ makes s_s more likely to be scum (coming up with the weird plays) or town (since that's one more mechanical player to trick by doing unexpected mechanical plays).
i'm really at the limits of how much i can think about here, i don't have the confidence to try to call a teamIn post 3511, Hoopla wrote:on another note, i'm annoyed peta/dave won't entertain me conversationally about a more indepth solve, but i guess we just need a scumflip to get motivation going again.
This is not accurate at all? I’d revised my opinion of lilith before today started and before I was under suspicion at all?In post 3510, Hoopla wrote:he's also trying to keep lilith suspicion open despite calling her locktown earlier in the game. how he came to that conclusion earlier in the game, but now can't keep it going looks to me like he needs this angle open now when the walls of PoE are closing in. it's in scum's interest to have as much of a spread of suspicion as possible when we're nearing endgame.
i hate ruling things out that easy but, i would guess he probably wouldn't bus here. but, and this is only really definitely true from my pov, i have to question why he takes 1s watcher with the 4th pick as scum. i also don't think his posts are as bad as you're sayingIn post 3508, Menalque wrote:Peta if Dave is scum do you think it townclears me y/n and why
What was absurd about my pointing at that peta seemed more actively solvey in a spectator thread that I was reading for a game that is quite likely to be game of the year, and then using that to help read him here?In post 3510, Hoopla wrote:when you couple that with his recent absurd "meta" attacks on peta, and then rescinding a cop gambit once it was revealed he could be CC'ed, it just seems like too many things adding up.
i'm starting to suspect BB is the top buddy for a scum!mena world (especially if mena flips cop/redirector). BB has been mysteriously absent from most of menalque's solve attempts, and i don't know why that would be, really. that slot has been pretty under the radar all game and could easily fit into a number of scumteam combos, in my opinion.In post 3513, petapan wrote:i'm really at the limits of how much i can think about here, i don't have the confidence to try to call a team
Like, none of this really feels like you think I’m scum?In post 3510, Hoopla wrote:i feel like menalque's play is starting to fray at the seams - or at least, it's looking like his scattergun stream-of-conscious style of posting is veering into deliberate obfuscation. he's continually focusing on low% possibilities, like trying keep open the possibility of N_M being the redirector and not a neighbouriser (as if N_M is ever capable of faking what is essentially a confirmable role).
he's also trying to keep lilith suspicion open despite calling her locktown earlier in the game. how he came to that conclusion earlier in the game, but now can't keep it going looks to me like he needs this angle open now when the walls of PoE are closing in. it's in scum's interest to have as much of a spread of suspicion as possible when we're nearing endgame.
when you couple that with his recent absurd "meta" attacks on peta, and then rescinding a cop gambit once it was revealed he could be CC'ed, it just seems like too many things adding up. and that's not even factoring in the possibility of a guilty on him. he could have been the NK N1, but a significant chunk of the time he's the killer too.
you've put up a good show, mena. but i think all the evidence is starting to eclipse your early game townposting.
VOTE: menalque
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This is a lieIn post 3520, Hoopla wrote:BB has been mysteriously absent from most of menalque's solve attempts