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[skitter30]

you're trying to find reasons to pick a fight with me, and i'm declining

[borkjerfkin]

Too standoffish. Seems like.. upset at my getting the syr elim, keeps complaining about agency loss like I'm somehow telling him what to do?

You said the dgb wagon looked better than you thought it was going to be, then you almost immediately were like "actually she's crumbing something" and i want to know how based in reality that is and if it made her town

and if i know you you're pretty likely to just never share that info to the point where i can do anything with it

that particular post was also a response to DGB saying that there was potential scum motivation for getting that info for purposes of rolefishing, which i'm trying to explain isn't my aim here

[Cabd]

I hate it when my townreads don't love each other :~(

Can we murder elements yet?

[skitter30]

it's very unlikely that i'm going to be voting elements

[borkjerfkin]

I'd rather pooky then elements

[Cabd]

I exist to suffer yelling at obtuse players to vote my scum reads, only to have satisfaction when they flip read, just to rinse and repeat with the next set of obtuseness.

Am I pushing a boulder up a hill with a bird nearby ready to devour my heart or what.

[Cabd]

I'd rather pooky then elements

Okay... but like, why?

[skitter30]

i don't have any particular reason to believe you'd be better at reading elements than me

[borkjerfkin]

I think pooky seems scummier than elements. I'm trying to find an avenue to scumread elements and failing

both are in your PoE, no?

[Cabd]

wait since when am i good at reading you?

i don't have any particular reason to believe you'd be better at reading elements than me

...

[Cabd]

I think pooky seems scummier than elements. I'm trying to find an avenue to scumread elements and failing

both are in your PoE, no?

my POE is those two names, and you. And vax slightly above you three...

[skitter30]

i mean i don't think i have a history of being in a lot of games with them that would prompt them to say that
at the same time i don't think you do either (to the best of my knowledge at least)

and as far as i can tell you're not even scumreading them, but rather think they're the best bet in your poe
but i'm actively townreading them and i don't want to vote there

heck even the syr vote that tipped you off to him being scum - elements voted u immediately therefater and that vote doesn't come from scum, and it even mroe so doesn't come right after their partner did it

[Cabd]

heck even the syr vote that tipped you off to him being scum - elements voted u immediately therefater and that vote doesn't come from scum, and it even mroe so doesn't come right after their partner did it

Expand this one out for me, I seem to be mis-remembering.

[skitter30]

the first three posts as a sequence i think are ridiculously ++++ town and do not come from scum:
they made a post that looks scummy, and were expecting people to jump on them for it, and acknowledged in an off-handed sort of way when someone else noted that post that they were expecting people to call them out on it
scum don't usually make posts that they think are bad in the first place, and they certainly don't sit there waiting for someone else to call them out on a bad post, and wonder why it didn't happen earlier like that

i also think that they seem super self-aware of what their scumrange is, and that they aren't in it, and that they're being called out as scummy for things they wouldn't do as scum .... i imagine if they were that self-aware they would put a bit more effort into doing something abt it, besides offering meta commentary that everyone here is wrong once in a while

Spoiler:

Fuck it.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: ffery

ew
VOTE: Cabd

This is the murkiest post in the quicksand rapids I created btw.

I'm surprised it took so long for someone to point that out tbh

that it was a bad vote

ok y did u make a bad vote

It was a pressure vote. Voted had moved in that direction so I added mine.
I wasn't very helpful and didn't tell me anything

I haven't thought about it

Then you need to be trying to convince people not to vote them.

I am not capable of doing this

[skitter30]

it's even more +town now given that syr voted you in between 616 and 624

[Prism]

Up to page 26

Syryana - townlean, willing to vote

Up to page 36

Syryana - town, not willing to vote

Elements, can you discuss what made you change here? I know it's been awhile, sorry.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think pooky seems scummier than elements. I'm trying to find an avenue to scumread elements and failing

both are in your PoE, no?

I don't disagree but what are

your

reasons?

[DrippingGoofball]

I hate it when my townreads don't love each other :~(

Can we murder elements yet?

What is about Elements that makes that the scummiest player slot?

[Prism]

In general it's a pretty eh vote to me. Their progression on me is a bit questionable-they didn't get my initial Bork vote, didn't like my unvote on him, and then later I'm town for persistence-but they're a lot more free flowing and natural in how they react than the Ele scum I saw.

My sample size of under one game day doesn't inspire confidence in my ability to read them.

To me it's just like,

I fuckin' guess if it's not Ben/Bork

, but when I townread literally everyone except those two it's kind of hard for me to get enthusiastic about my 3rd/4th choices in Ele or Skitter. They're still townleans.

[Prism]

Seems like Skitter thinks there's something for Ele town in Syr's ISO? I guess I can skim that.

[skitter30]

the sequence from 616 to 624, coupled with the other elements posts i just pulled, point to elements-town imo

[Prism]

Oh I see, the Syr vote lines up with Elements' explanation they gave later. IDK, hypothetical Elements scum world I can see them vote tagging to a partner, but that's because they're

literally just spitball yoloing

as scum which, uh, is a style they can pick.

Kind of weird to work this direction though, which requires me assuming they're scum to begin with.

[skitter30]

i don't think those are a pair of votes that come from partners

[borkjerfkin]

I think pooky seems scummier than elements. I'm trying to find an avenue to scumread elements and failing

both are in your PoE, no?

I don't disagree but what are

your

reasons?

I didn't like the reasoning for going on that wagon; I thought of all the people on wagon pooky's vote looked the worst placed
I also don't like that the only defense he's offered is <reference to earlier self-meta convo>
also he's seen fit to totally ignore the interaction between cabd/you last night despite being present for it

only thing i see from elements is lack of effort / general opacity at times; doesn't really feel slimy to me

[DrippingGoofball]

i don't think those are a pair of votes that come from partners

Can you explain that?