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[Ydrasse]

i’m not saying it’s ai i’m saying it makes me sympathetic regardless of alignment which means i don’t wanna vote him for that basis though i know it’s not a sound one which is why i’ve been kicking rocks about. also he said he would sadly self vote if i voted him and i am a little baby weak to ate even jokingly

i do think one of the most compelling things abt town skitter is probably the fact that it’s not worth it relatively to go to these lengths, and even the amount of dissonance btwn what she said she’d do as scum and then her actions is a slight reassurance? i dunno though, she’s been pushing against like... everyone i’ve personally thought was townier and it’s like... ugh. idk. i’m trying to get something to fit the ~feelings~ i’ve been having this game wrt dynamics

realistically i don’t think she goes through either but i’d rather at least say this now that “sure i’d go for it”. typing that though i got cold feet thinking about it which, uh, yeah.

if mena does have a chance of flipping scum i’d vote there and if it was wrong would accept skitters gloating, also i feel like even if he was town that’s going to tell us a hell of a lot more than flipping other ppl

[Farkran]

Why would his irl situation be indicative of a town alignment though

With this i mean that rolling scum would actually have a worse effect on a depressed menalque than rolling town because scum takes more effort both emotionally and physically, that's what i would expect of him at least

I still feel like he started playing his scumgame but had no significant success so he kinda gave up especially when skitter backs him up so fiercely

Pedit: eh, i explained myself profusely though wrt all those positions and how/why none of them would do what they did if they were scum - lucy and day specifically but tbh as scum i wouldn't wk all three of them fiercely either; maybe Norwee and Lucy because she was never in danger of being limed but Day would have been fried if i joined against him instead of fighting the lim

Pedit2 the above is @skit

[Luca Blight]

Who do you think makes sense as a partner for Menalque, Farkran?

[Farkran]

Who do you think makes sense as a partner for Menalque, Farkran?

First to come to mind is still alisae, e probably busses at this point of the day but i'm fine if we lim scum anyways

Then maybe Chara/Ydrasse/PP as a PoE and based on their behavior around mena, like all of them avoided the lim without providing *too much* reason for it, although i think scum!pp would bus scum!mena easier, maybe. The other two probably not so much

[Luca Blight]

You really think the all the scum are in {Menalque, PP, Chara, Ydrasse, Ali}?

If so then the scum team is going down with a whimper. Pretty sure Chara is Town as well

[Menalque]

Interesting that my entire family wagon is the people I’ve been consistently calling scum all day

[Menalque]

I have no idea how the word “family” got in there

[Menalque]

Anyway if I get limmed then my main point is that skitter should be allowed to lead tomorrow on whoever she wants and you should really listen to her

And secondly a reminder that atp the wagon on me is being pushed exclusively by people I’ve been calling scum all day

[Menalque]

Also VOTE: ali

Eir progression here feels v fake and like a failed pocket attempt. Also the recent super strong defence of ydrasse felt weird and if ali!scum I would prob look again at ydra

[Alisae]

it’s mostly just for the fact he’s my friend if i’m honest, and i feel for his situation making mafia less fun/making him less engaged

i do think though it’s slightly more likely? scum skitter pockets than incorrectly defends him and he’s been pretty hands off regarding skitter, and given that i have weird pings btwn him/pooky/skitter and i think this, and currently tr pooky... yeah

if it’s gonna be the move today i’ll go for it but unhappily tbh

you'll be more unhappy if we don't kill anyone

[Alisae]

Also VOTE: ali

Eir progression here feels v fake and like a failed pocket attempt. Also the recent super strong defence of ydrasse felt weird and if ali!scum I would prob look again at ydra

you realize I'm voting you for the sake of compromise and not because I scumread you right? Like I townread you I'm just compromising on you because you give information when you flip

[Menalque]

It accomplishes the same thing regardless of what ur professed read is

[Menalque]

And honestly saying u tr me while u vote me feels very ehhhhh

[Alisae]

bro the fuck you want me to do

[Alisae]

someone needs to die
if we can't kill scum cuz we can't wagon them or know who the fuck then I'm using the breathing room we have to make mistakes to try to get an informative flip.

[Alisae]

I also honestly think if you were scum you would probably bus someone since you think bussing is good for some reason but I don't think you have so you're probably town but no one wants to get together to kill something so like
the fuck am I supposed to do? Just be okay with this and no elim? Fuck no.

[Luca Blight]

At this point I definitely don’t want a Farkran lim today.

My lim pool is {Ydrasse, Norwee, Ali}

I won’t vote Menalque as I just don’t feel it flips scum

I really don’t know what to make of Ali at the point but I don’t think it’s a terrible choice

Ydrasse is currently my preference

Norwee I’m back and forth on. He’s probably be the most informative lim, but his AtE got to me a bit and made me doubt myself. It’s probably better to give him longer as his alignment will become clear as the game progresses.

[Farkran]

You really think the all the scum are in {Menalque, PP, Chara, Ydrasse, Ali}?

If so then the scum team is going down with a whimper. Pretty sure Chara is Town as well

"Really" eh

I think it would make sense. Why not. I have strong townreads that i'm fairly sure will flip green i.e. day, norwee, lucy, pooky, luca

And other townreads that i wouldn't bet the game on but still wouldn't vote today i.e. skitter and SS

I guess if you want to organize this into a readlist it would be

TOWN
{Day}
{pooky, norwee, lucy} but this tier isn't even a full tier below the first, i separated them just because i think Day is literally -never- scum whereas these three are like 2% chance
{SS}
{Skitter}
{Ydrasse, PP, Chara, Alisae}
{Menalque}
SCUM

Pedit: oh - spicy take from mena, unexpected (not ironic)

[Alisae]

If we want to wagon scum
like actually
wagon scum
pretty sure SS is the best chance we have of actually hitting scum.
But I'm not going to vote it because by my own logic, if it's town it tells me nothing so........

[Alisae]

If I'm plugging in
Norwee = Town
Chara = Town
Fark = Town
Pooky = Town
Day = Town
Mena = Town
Skitter = Town
Lucy = Town
Ydrasse = Town

Then you are forced to come to Luca being scum, PP being scum, and SS being scum.
I think this is a really good start.
Maybe Chara is scum and 1 of these are wrong, that could be VERY possible btw.
But if we're plugging in Norwee, Day, Fark, and Pooky as town, and we're plugging in Mena and Skitter as town, then these conclusions just make fucking sense.

[Alisae]

Maybe its {Luca, Chara, SS}
Maybe that's just the team if this town is just doing everything in its power to just shoot itself in the leg and I'm wrong.
BTW I can throw PP in and out of this easy but I think this as a team makes a lot of sense.

[Alisae]

actually maybe not Chara and it just has to be PP.

[Farkran]

At this point I definitely don’t want a Farkran lim today.

My lim pool is {Ydrasse, Norwee, Ali}

I won’t vote Menalque as I just don’t feel it flips scum

I really don’t know what to make of Ali at the point but I don’t think it’s a terrible choice

Ydrasse is currently my preference

Norwee I’m back and forth on. He’s probably be the most informative lim, but his AtE got to me a bit and made me doubt myself. It’s probably better to give him longer as his alignment will become clear as the game progresses.

Out of those, Alisae would be my preference ftr

Ydrasse isn't particularly scummy in a vacuum to me, but she does make a lot of sense in a PoE

Pedit: why didn't this list appear sooner if you wanted to accelerate the process of flipping

[Alisae]

Ya okay I like PP more than Chara in that solve of {PP, Luca, SS}
Or it could be something like {PP, SS, Norwee}

Norwee's progression is kinda similar to that one time we were scum together and he kept changing his stance on to townread me or to not townread me, so this could make some sense.

[Farkran]

Ya okay I like PP more than Chara in that solve of {PP, Luca, SS}
Or it could be something like {PP, SS, Norwee}

Norwee's progression is kinda similar to that one time we were scum together and he kept changing his stance on to townread me or to not townread me, so this could make some sense.

Norwee is this true