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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:57 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2796, Dwlee99 wrote:Here's another thing though. I don't think Ari is scum with RCE.
In post 2894, Dwlee99 wrote:It was sort of a test and RCE failed. Ari had a highly emotional post towards RCE and RCE kind of ignored it but I know Ari can fake those emotes
This was the explanation

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:58 am
by Datisi
not sure what the test was testing but aight

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:00 am
by Dwlee99
It was testing how RCE would respond to Ari.

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:02 am
by NorwegianboyEE
So you were all about meta being bad and then that's the best you can come up with? :shifty:

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:04 am
by Dwlee99
Huh

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:05 am
by Dwlee99
That was no meta beyond "I know Ari can do x thing"

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:13 am
by T3
I legit just forgot ari wasn't dead

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:28 am
by NorwegianboyEE
T3 wassup

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:37 am
by T3
In post 3487, Dwlee99 wrote:Results y'all?
hi

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:44 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Nothing more to say?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:19 am
by mastina
Hi, currently busy with job application stuff but wanted to say that I got two doctor potions and used one of them on Norwee last night. (Obviously, the scum can't win if both Norwee and I are alive and I can't doctor myself, so...)

When I have the free time, I intend to do an iso of dead scum and an iso of the living players on dead scum but that'll have to wait.

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:49 am
by T3
it's auto DEPENDING on what potions people have
massclaim
with mastina's claim it probably is autowin unless scum have multiple jailkeepers

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:16 am
by Dwlee99
I have (1) doctor

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:27 pm
by T3
k
it's just datasi
probably
either way norwee and mastina are 100% town and dwlee like 90%

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:48 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
I feel absolutely awful in RL. I almost can’t even read due to a big headache and fever.

!VLA for 24 hours

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:29 pm
by mastina
Btw did an iso of dead scum.
ta vera gave basically nothing; Emperor gave mixed messages hard to sort (if I had to it'd be Datisi > T3 > Dwlee from him but it's incredibly muddy to the point where there's like less than 2% between them imo from him);
RCE's iso looks more partnerey with Datisi (specifically, Datisi >> T3 >>>>>>> Dwlee);
Aristeia's iso looks more partnerey with T3 (specifically, T3 > Datisi >> Dwlee).

I've not iso'd the living players and their relationship with scum, but given that even if I die (since I can't save myself), we have two eliminations, I'm becoming fairly sure we've got the autowin here, as Norwee pretty damn clearly is not scum here and Dwlee from the work I've done is looking like he isn't scum here and even if one of me/Norwee were to die the other wouldn't meaning we're guaranteed two eliminations so as long as I'm right on Norwee town and Dwlee town the game's won for the town so me getting mixed messages as to which of T3/Datisi would be scum doesn't matter.

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:06 pm
by mastina
Btw having iso'd T3 and GCB I think I overall prefer doing things in this order:

VOTE: Datisi

GCB's iso has some decent partner equity with the flipped scum--there's a few weak pieces of evidence that could be anti-buddy, but they are weak, and overall the iso fits as earlygame deepscum.

T3's iso has almost no partner equity. The closest we get is T3 voting other slots instead of the scum with the scum in the POE and occasionally booting the scum out of the POE and placing them in town, buuuuut, while those things are in fact present, his iso has a lot lot lot more of him suspecting, pushing, and voting scum, and overall his iso looks like town who had a genuine read progression.

GCB's reads looked good, but fakeable by competent scum (especially with the overall lack of strong progression); T3's reads look like town that genuinely progressed and developed over time from a viewpoint lacking insider knowledge.

I realize that T3 could be scum here and Datisi could be town here but overall there's more evidence pointing to Datisi-scum imo than there is to T3-scum.

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:08 pm
by Dwlee99
Counterpoint: what if my reads list earlier was perfect except you and t3 swapped places

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:46 pm
by mastina
In post 3517, Dwlee99 wrote:Counterpoint: what if my reads list earlier was perfect except you and t3 swapped places
?

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:29 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1959, Dwlee99 wrote:Bingle
Green cap
Norwee

Fairy
Limit
T3

Mastina
Emperor
RCE

My middle is like town leans but calling the scum team is unlikely so I'd reeval in there if people in bottom list flipped town but I'd think t3 is scum over limit rn but I'm sort of hazy on it if that makes sense.
This list

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:24 am
by Datisi
i really hope i'm right because if so that list is lmfao

and also i'm not sure dwlee just puts both partners at the bottom? like

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:26 am
by Dwlee99
Datisi if I was evil I think I'd want you gone first cause I'd be worried you'd obvtown into killing me

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:27 am
by Dwlee99
T3/Datisi do either of you have pain potions

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:30 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I feel slightly better now. (Emphasis on
slightly
...)

So Dwlee. Who do you think we should eliminate first today?

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:32 am
by Datisi
my doctor gave me some drugs and i feel not dead now so if anyone wants to actually talk to me, i'll be around

i don't have any pain potions, i can claim what i have if needed but also i don't see the need for it right now