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House tl; drOKAY I BELIEVE YOU ABOUT MATH NOW, SOMEHOW IT APPEARS THAT THERE ARE STILL 3 SCUM LEFT BECAUSE MATH, DATISI, AND ARI ARE CLEARLY ASSISTING EACH OTHER TO SPAM TOWNIES OUT OF THE GAME THREAD. MY THEORY IS THAT WE HIT A MILLER OR SOMETHING ON D1. MAYBE ONE IS A TRAITOR (MATH). IDK.
@ S_SStop bitching about me and House and boasting about how you don't read my posts, you completely fucked up in your meta crutching because somehow THERE ARE THREE SCUM ALIVE. Meanwhile, you've managed to FoS NONE of them and you're vote parked on andres our townie LHF slot.
@andresGet your fucking vote off me, scum team are trying to force the mislim off of it. Stop voting the townie voice attempting to organize the townies, and stop trying to read the game thread in chronological order; Ari, Datisi and Math are spamming it intentionally to make it impossible for you to catch up. Read my push on Datisi starting from Ari's prompt in 3339, read it to the point you come clomping into the game thread with no idea what's going on, then read my iso until you understand what is happening. PLEASE HELP ME GET RID OF THEM STARTING WITH ARI.
@innocentvillager or replacementDONT TALK TO ARI, DATISI OR MATH, DONT TRY TO READ THE GAME THREAD IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER, SHEEP MY VOTE AND CHECK MY ISO AND MY IN-THREAD PUSH ON DATISI STARTING AT 3339 UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THE GAME STATE.
In this post, I'm STILL continuing my push on Datisi from 3339, and I've now expanded my targets to include "Ari" AND somehow Math as the scum team. I've shifted focus onto "Ari" primarily, as I believe whoever "Ari" is is the biggest threat.
I'm getting tired from BEING THE ONLY TOWNIE, so I've decided to continue into the section from my notes where Ari inserts herself into the town mech and setup spec so she can get townie points and shade the innocentvillager slot relentlessly, BECAUSE THIS IS EASY TO POINT OUT COMPARED TO MY NEXT SECTION. Now that I believe THERE ARE THREE SCUM ALIVE, that adds an extra motivation for Ari to insert herself into the setup spec, though I wasn't aware of this at the time I took my notes.
Here are A SMALL SAMPLE of posts where Ari forces herself into the mech discussion and setup spec (amid the mindless noise posts I've documented so far):
2607, 2603, 2598, 2722, 2747, 2902, 2952, 3141 (I marked this one for being a crossover with the Math spam and Ari's misdirection about her self meta)
Now, here's the fun part: my above sample was from the list of "Ari inserts herself into the town mech discussion and setup spec". I have A SEPARATE LIST of all the times Ari, in the small sample I collected, inserts herself as a contributor to the discussion while she SHADES THE FUCK out of the innocentvillager slot randomly (amidst her mindless noise posts of course.) Here's my "Ari shades the fuck out of innocentvillager while she inserts herself into the town mech discussion and setup spec" sample list:
2704, 2728, 2732, 2967, 2869, 2906, 2911
Now I'm going to show you a visual of the lists at a 1:1 ratio in pairs at a time, one visual from the general mech list alongside one visual from the shade IV mech list:
General mech/setup insertion:
innocentvillager slot shade + mech/setup insertion:In post 2607, Aristeia wrote:In post 2601, MathBlade wrote:
NoIn post 2598, Aristeia wrote:ok so you're saying there is no Vig, SS+Datisi is the scum team and Baltar died because he visited Datisi-scum and the scum team shot OWER?
I am saying I find that more probable than IV scum
I don’t think a normal gets approved without an invest or protective
Weak-Disloyal Fruit Vendor / ???? Vig is a lot of power already.
I have trouble believing we have another investigative.
General mech/setup insertion:In post 2704, Aristeia wrote:
Do you think they are the same likelihood of being town?In post 2700, MathBlade wrote:As IV and SS are likely both town
innocentvillager slot shade + mech/setup insertion:In post 2603, Aristeia wrote:SS's reasoning for why he vig'd OWER checks out in that he's probably lowest on POE out of the Skitter-wagon - why do scum shoot there?
General mech/setup insertion:In post 2728, Aristeia wrote:House is very far outside of his scum range.
I still don't think IV is cleared
innocentvillager slot shade + mech/setup insertion:In post 2598, Aristeia wrote:ok so you're saying there is no Vig, SS+Datisi is the scum team and Baltar died because he visited Datisi-scum and the scum team shot OWER?
General mech/setup insertion:In post 2732, Aristeia wrote:I want to hear more from Andres / IV.
I want Frogster/Mathblade to stop foaming at the mouth to end this day as fast as possible.
innocentvillager slot shade + mech/setup insertion:In post 2722, Aristeia wrote:oh this is an Isis setup not a Gypyx setup oopsIn post 2869, Aristeia wrote:In post 2864, MathBlade wrote:I am giving you shit for not pushing someone in the PoE right now.
I pushed skitter yesterday and some people decided to speedyeet her before I even got to talk to her so I'm not voting until I feel comfortable with where the game is going.
If I had voted for IV earlier today he'd probably already be dead so I'm feeling fairly confident that not voting at all until people have the chance to talk is the right idea with this group.
I want IV/Andres to post more because it feels like the game has left them behind and I don't have a lot of readable content out of those two slots relative to anyone else.
I am uncomfortable with the idea of mech-clearing you/IV/SS - I want to hear what everyone else thinks about mech-clearing that triplet before we make that choice.
General mech/setup insertion:
innocentvillager slot shade + mech/setup insertion:In post 2952, Aristeia wrote:
We don't know if scum have RB or not at this point.In post 2950, House wrote:
If scum have RB, they can just block the vig.In post 2948, Aristeia wrote:Whether the scum have a roleblocker is a moot point - if the scum are within the 5 VT claims and they do not have a roleblocker - they would necesarily have to become the most townread of the five in order to survive the gauntlet of elim -> vig -> elim -> elim.
I don't see why bussing your partner at this stage for towncred is not a valid option especially if the scum team does not have a roleblocker.
PEdit:In post 2911, Aristeia wrote:you are giving me "I can't believe this fake claim worked" vibes but I'm too exhausted to really pursue this angle with you just try to be townie pls.
Uh oh, the chatter bugs, Datisi and Ari, are back in the game thread posting more useless shit to confuse my MIA townie team mates.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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In post 3500, Aristeia wrote:Dats I am about to fall asleep can you pick out a song for me to listen to in my dreams please?Spoiler: <3I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Frogsterking
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@HOUSE @INNOCENTVILLAGER SLOT @S_S @ANDRES
YOU ARE ALL BAD AND I HATE ALL OF YOU. GO FUCK YOURSELVES. THERE ARE THREE SCUM ALIVE AND NONE OF YOU ARE VOTING A SINGLE ONE OF THEM OR HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS GAME. THE SCUM ARE DATISI, ARI, AND MATH, AND THEY ARE SPAMMING THE THREAD TO PREVENT ANDRES AND INNOCENTVILLAGER FROM CATCHING UP, MAKE THE THREAD UNREADABLE, AND CONFUSE YOU SLOW SAD_SACKS OF SHIT. STOP[ TRYING TO READ THE GAME THREAD CHRONOLOGICALLY, IT'S ENDLESS CONFUSING BS, START IN-THREAD AT 3339 AND READ THE POSTS IN MY ISO UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON. STOP TALKING TO ARI, DATISI AND MATH, THEY ARE THE SCUM TEAM AND THEY ARE TRYING TO CONFUSE YOU. LOOK AT THEIR ENDLESS MINDLESS BANTER THEY ARE FILLING THE THREAD WITH IN BETWEEN MY POSTS TO TRY AND FORCE ME OUT BEFORE YOU GUYS BOTHER TO SHOW UP:
In post 3500, Aristeia wrote:Dats I am about to fall asleep can you pick out a song for me to listen to in my dreams please?
In post 3499, Datisi wrote:i remember having a convo with baltar a while back. where he said how, if he were scum facing execution, that he'd spam up the thread with absolute nonsense until the town got sick of him and killed him. i always wondered how that would look.
glad to finally see that happen.In post 3498, Aristeia wrote:
I was the second vote on skitterIn post 3497, Frogsterking wrote:In amidst the mindless noise posting, Ari shades this SAME fucking point about the e-1 and skitter wagon, THE SKITTER WAGON DATISI AND ARI STARTED.
I voted there to apply pressure, sheep dats and have a conversation with skitter about her takes to sort her.
You quick-hammered her before I got to talk with her.In post 3502, Datisi wrote:In post 3500, Aristeia wrote:Dats I am about to fall asleep can you pick out a song for me to listen to in my dreams please?Spoiler: <3Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.- Datisi
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i'm gonna say this as unrelated to this game: you are being unpleasant. stop insulting people. take a breather if you need it.In post 3503, Frogsterking wrote:YOU ARE ALL BAD AND I HATE ALL OF YOU. GO FUCK YOURSELVES.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Aristeia
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In post 3504, Datisi wrote:
i'm gonna say this as unrelated to this game: you are being unpleasant. stop insulting people. take a breather if you need it.In post 3503, Frogsterking wrote:YOU ARE ALL BAD AND I HATE ALL OF YOU. GO FUCK YOURSELVES.YOU SURE WISH I WOULD LEAVE DONT YOU, SINCE YOU GOT STEAMROLLED AND SCUM FROZE TRYING TO SHUT ME DOWN ALONE YESTERDAY. I'M GLAD YOU STOPPED CRYING EVENTUALLY. I GUESS HAVING YOUR SCUM BUDDIES IN-THREAD MAKES YOU MORE CONFIDENT. WHO IS ARI'S MAIN? IS IT BOON?
WAS LAP A MILLER OR ARE THERE 4 SCUM?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.- Frogsterking
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In post 3505, Aristeia wrote:I love the song thanks <3In post 3506, Aristeia wrote:this feels like the moment in the criminal trial where the axe murderer goes for the insanity defense.BOON?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.- Datisi
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millers don't flip red upon death and i don't like you insulting people outside of game. to be clear, i'm not responding to your case on me, i'm just telling you to cut the personal insults out.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Frogsterking
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In post 3509, Datisi wrote:millers don't flip red upon death and i don't like you insulting people outside of game. to be clear, i'm not responding to your case on me, i'm just telling you to cut the personal insults out.OKAY DATISI, YOU GUYS MADE THE GAME TOXIC AND UNPLAYABLE FOR TOWN ON PURPOSE TO MAKE US QUIT AND LOSE, AND YOU KNOW IT, AND YOU KNOW I KNOW IT.
YOU DON'T PRETEND LIKE BIG MEANIE FROG IS THE ONE MAKING TOWN GO BOO HOO. YOU, "ARI" AND MATH ARE THE ONES DOING THAT.
I MAKE DEAL WITH YOU: YOU STOP SHITPOSTING WITH "ARI" AND MATH, GASLIGHTING ME, SPAMMING THE GAME THREAD MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR ANDRES AND INNOCENTVILLAGER TO CATCH UP, AND TRYING TO PREVENT ME FROM COMMUNICATING WITH THE OTHER TOWNIES FOR GOOD, NO MORE SHIT POSTING, NO MORE HYPERPOSTING. YOU EACH GET LIKE, 3 POSTS EACH MAX.
AND IN RETURN ALL MY INSULTS ARE GONE FOR GOOD.
DEAL?
PS: IF YOU DECLINE, IT GETS WORSE INSTEAD.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.- Datisi
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i'm gonna be making "deals" with you. i'm done responding to you this game anyway. all i'm doing is telling you to *cut the personal, out-of-game bullshit* because it's ugly, pathetic, and against the rules.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Frogsterking
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@HOUSE @INNOCENTVILLAGER SLOT @S_S @ANDRES
THERE ARE STILL THREE SCUM LEFT, THEY ARE "ARI" (WHO I THINK IS A BOON ALT), DATISI AND MATH. I THINK MATH MIGHT BE A TRAITOR.
STOP TRYING TO TALK TO THEM, THEY DONT CARE AND THEY'RE DOING IT ON PURPOSE. THEY ARE SPAMMING THE GAME THREAD WITH ENDLESS BICKERING, SHADE AND SHITPOSTING INTENTIONALLY TO MAKE YOU QUIT.
STOP TRYING TO READ THE THREAD CHRONOLOGICALLY, THEY FUCKED IT UP TOO BAD, START AT 3339 AND WATCH HOW THEY RESPOND TO MY PUSH, THEN READ MY ISO UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THE GAME STATE.
STOP PUSHING EACH OTHER, IT'S PATHETIC. I WANT TO GET BOON OUT FIRST, MY VOTE IS ALREADY THERE.
I'M GOING TO CONTINUE MY SCUM CASE POINTING OUT ALL OF BOONS SHIT IN THIS THREAD, MOVING ONTO THE "LYING ABOUT SELF META" SECTION, BUT I'M EXHAUSTED AND GOING TO GO FOR A SHORT WALK.
PLEASE HELP SOON.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.- Datisi
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of course i managed to somehow post the thing without the most important word in the sentence. anyway.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- innocentvillager
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Holy f, what did I miss
@Frogster, please calm down, this is a game. I don't need to be caught up to know 3503 especially is really out of line.
Anyway, I'm not really sure where to start catching up because I'm definitely not reading everything. I'll start with Frogster's suggestion to start skimming at 3339- innocentvillager
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IV oh my Goodness finally!
It's NOT a personality thing, there are still three scum left and they are Ari, Math and Datisi!
They have been the only ones who stayed in the game thread, the other townies have all abandoned the thread, they've been trying to gaslight me which is the reason for the extremity in 3505.
Ari is a very manipulative scum player, and Datisi and Math are very good as well, it's been a living nightmare in here.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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I probably wouldn't make this up if I were scum because it seems so stupid and crazy, but this is actually the state of the game right now.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.- Frogsterking
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In post 2658, Aristeia wrote:
I've never played with Scum!DatisiIn post 2648, Frogsterking wrote:
Has Datisi ever fooled you as scum before or vice versa?In post 2641, Aristeia wrote:I refuse to believe Datisi can be scum here and if I'm wrong you can make fun of me in the postgame for being an idiot.In post 2661, Aristeia wrote:Did you not read the game I linked?@HOUSE @INNOCENTVILLAGER SLOT @S_S @ANDRES
THERE ARE THREE SCUM: "ARI" (WHO IS A BOON ALT OR SOME SIMILAR STYLE AND SKILL OF SCUM PLAYER LIKE THAT), DATISI, AND MATH. I THINK MATH IS A TRAITOR. THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ANNOY YOU, SPAMMING, SHADING ETC., TRYING TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO READ THE THREAD AND GET YOU TO QUIT. THEY ARE DOING IT ON PURPOSE. DONT TRUST THEM!
READ AT 3339 AND WATCH HOW THEY RESPOND TO MY PUSH, THEN READ MY ISO UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND THE GAME STATE; I KNOW I SOUND CRAZY, PLEASE GIVE ME A CHANCE! IT'S A WEIRD GAME.
THERE ARE ONLY FIVE TOWNIES LEFT, STOP VOTING EACH OTHER, GET "ARI" OUT FIRST.
PLEASE HELP ME!
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I'm back from my walk and I see the chatter bugs are still hiding. I'm going to attempt to share my notes from the "Ari and lying about self-meta section". I've been procrastinating writing this section for a while now, because this is the most abstract list I created to show what the Ari slot has been doing to the thread, and I'm worried that writing this will make me look even crazier than I already do. I have to do something though!
Whoever this "Ari" player is inserted themselves into the meta speculation to help their slot get townread. At the same time, they were very misleading and secretive about their own actual meta, and have been hiding behind the gimmick of their alt to conceal that they are a very ruthless and manipulative player trying their damnest to win the game. I also want to point out a major inconsistency in their survey result and the temperament they appear to actually have in-game.
In my small sample of the posts (there are far more if you bother to look through the entire shitpost mess that is D3), here is the list I jotted down in the middle of the night backing up my claim "Ari has inserted herself into the meta speculation ":
2728, 2754, 2808, 2812, 3126, 3141
Here's the sample list for the "Ari constantly misleads about her actual meta ":
3135, 3133, 2661, 2658, 3091, 3126, 3128,
Now like my other posts, here is a visual on what these posts look like:
More nonsense posting, gloating about how andres can't keep up with the scum shit posting, trying to seem townie by being involved in the meta speculation.In post 2812, Aristeia wrote:You should recognize though that making claims like "My meta is obvious and I am obviously town" has a tendency to tilt people off the planet. ~_~
Andres doesn't have as much time as some other people here and I'd rather have him spend his time here in a more productive manner than shouting with you about your "meta".
"Ari" is pocketing House and trying to earn general townie points while flooding the thread with more useless information.In post 2808, Aristeia wrote:Some House scum games if you feel like doing reading:
DoaR - Large Theme Large Theme Multiball
Frogs "I hardclaim Masons with Dwlee99"
Radio Buzz Five Post Rep Out
Mini Normal Closest to Applicable here I guess? Mathblade reps into his slot.
The Neighborhood Cult Leader Game
It's a bit of an exaggeration to say it's a five minute read but he does feel different from his other scum games in that I don't really think he goes out of his way to make big-brain plays when he's scum? I did just skim a bit so feel free to do your own work and let me know if I am wrong.
I tagged this one in my notes as also being a part of the "inserting into mech discussion list" and "shading Math", though since then I've realized Math is in on it.In post 3141, Aristeia wrote:
that was analysis of a mechanical function of the game.In post 3140, MathBlade wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13185190
Example from Guardians of what is missing
that mechanical function is also missing in this game..
This one is tagged for gloating. "Ari" is gloating that no one is bothering to keep track of her elim targets or paying close attention to her posts.In post 3142, Aristeia wrote:
ok let's see how much attention you are paying to my posts.In post 3139, MathBlade wrote:You when arguing Prism scum linked posts and detailed
Like there’s a push
Who do I prefer to elim currently?
I didn't have this one in my notes, I just grabbed it for being immediately after the previous ones, and demonstrating more nonsense banter noise with Math.In post 3145, Aristeia wrote:
I mean that mistaken analysis defending a scumplayer got me mislimmed b4 elo so yea I don't think I want to repeat that experience?In post 3143, MathBlade wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13048456
This from 2239 currently.
There are a few more posts Ari made nearby I also grabbed for the visual because they demonstrate the negative impact Ari is spreading through the thread:
Here Ari is gloating again, saying things that are easily falsifiable for no reason, making fun of town for not keeping track of her reads,In post 3137, Aristeia wrote:I don't think I've avoided stating who I think the scum are in this game.
Here I'm posting the visuals of the "Ari misleads about her self-meta" theme:
Here Ari is gloating again, saying lies for the fun of it, I'm sure she's a huge meme poster here.In post 3135, Aristeia wrote:If you skim guardians/2239, I also do not meme very much with the other people in the game.
I'm sure "Ari" is lying that these games are indicative of how she "behave with [Datisi] every time", because lying constantly seems to be her M.O.In post 3133, Aristeia wrote:you can read my other games with Datisi this is how I behave with him every time;
Guardians
Mini 2239
Potions
Here is more useless information to comb through, more misdirection about their actual playstyle in this game. If "Ari" really wanted to demonstrate how she behaved with Datisi, she would supply a much larger sample size and be less secretive about her main.
Ari says alt outing is *liek totally gross* because she is secretive about her main and anything that would actually be a good faith indication of how she plays as scum. The next few lines I think are some random gibberish just written to confuse people.In post 3131, Aristeia wrote:Alt-outting is gross and you know that, trying to read someone based on who you think they are is just an extension of alt-outting.
You are committing multiple errors in your read on me.
You can read me by my behavior in this game or my behavior in other games I've played.
I'm not going to defend myself if you start saying my behavior isn't how you expect because of your read on someone who is not even me.
I put this in the list for "misleads about self meta", but I think this belongs in the "random bickering endlessly with Math" pile.In post 3126, Aristeia wrote:I don't know what you're talking about and I think you should probably limit your analysis to games I've actually played.
Here I think she's just lying for fun again, I believe the main of "Ari" has played scum with Datisi before.In post 2658, Aristeia wrote:
I've never played with Scum!DatisiIn post 2648, Frogsterking wrote:
Has Datisi ever fooled you as scum before or vice versa?In post 2641, Aristeia wrote:I refuse to believe Datisi can be scum here and if I'm wrong you can make fun of me in the postgame for being an idiot.
Ari REALLY wants the real townies to waste time reading the games she sends us and mislead us about what kind of game she is actually playing here.In post 2661, Aristeia wrote:Did you not read the game I linked?
Here this ties into both the "ari constantly misleads us about her self meta" point, but it also ties into the next point I wanted to bring up, about the survey.In post 3091, Aristeia wrote:If it's not clear to you, you can always ask me what my thoughts on anything are.
Ari's statement here seems consistent with her results, at least on a surface level, with the main trait I'm interested in, the level of agreeableness. Her score on the survey indicates she is at the 79th percentile of people who complete this version of the OCEAN test, in other words, of a hundred random individuals who completed this test online, she would be higher in the qualities described below than nearly 80 of the other random people.
Contrast the above description with the mean spirited, vindictive, and arrogant posts from Ari below:In post 448, Aristeia wrote: Agreeableness
Agreeableness reflects individual differences in concern with cooperation and social harmony. Agreeable individuals value getting along with others. They are therefore considerate, friendly, generous, helpful, and willing to compromise their interests with others'. Agreeable people also have an optimistic view of human nature. They believe people are basically honest, decent, and trustworthy.
Disagreeable individuals place self-interest above getting along with others. They are generally unconcerned with others' well-being, and therefore are unlikely to extend themselves for other people. Sometimes their skepticism about others' motives causes them to be suspicious, unfriendly, and uncooperative.
Agreeableness is obviously advantageous for attaining and maintaining popularity. Agreeable people are better liked than disagreeable people. On the other hand, agreeableness is not useful in situations that require tough or absolute objective decisions. Disagreeable people can make excellent scientists, critics, or soldiers.
DOMAIN/Facet Score
AGREEABLENESS 79
..Trust 75
..Morality 46
..Altruism 70
..Cooperation 72
..Modesty 91
..Sympathy 53
Your high level of Agreeableness indicates a strong interest in others' needs and well-being. You are pleasant, sympathetic, and cooperative.
Agreeableness Facets
Trust. A person with high trust assumes that most people are fair, honest, and have good intentions. Persons low in trust see others as selfish, devious, and potentially dangerous. Your level of trust is high.
Morality. High scorers on this scale see no need for pretense or manipulation when dealing with others and are therefore candid, frank, and sincere. Low scorers believe that a certain amount of deception in social relationships is necessary. People find it relatively easy to relate to the straightforward high-scorers on this scale. They generally find it more difficult to relate to the unstraightforward low-scorers on this scale. It should be made clear that low scorers are not unprincipled or immoral; they are simply more guarded and less willing to openly reveal the whole truth. Your level of morality is average.
Altruism. Altruistic people find helping other people genuinely rewarding. Consequently, they are generally willing to assist those who are in need. Altruistic people find that doing things for others is a form of self-fulfillment rather than self-sacrifice. Low scorers on this scale do not particularly like helping those in need. Requests for help feel like an imposition rather than an opportunity for self-fulfillment. Your level of altruism is high.
Cooperation. Individuals who score high on this scale dislike confrontations. They are perfectly willing to compromise or to deny their own needs in order to get along with others. Those who score low on this scale are more likely to intimidate others to get their way. Your level of cooperation is high.
Modesty. High scorers on this scale do not like to claim that they are better than other people. In some cases this attitude may derive from low self-confidence or self-esteem. Nonetheless, some people with high self-esteem find immodesty unseemly. Those who are willing to describe themselves as superior tend to be seen as disagreeably arrogant by other people. Your level of modesty is high.
Sympathy. People who score high on this scale are tenderhearted and compassionate. They feel the pain of others vicariously and are easily moved to pity. Low scorers are not affected strongly by human suffering. They pride themselves on making objective judgments based on reason. They are more concerned with truth and impartial justice than with mercy. Your level of tender-mindedness is average.
In post 3506, Aristeia wrote:this feels like the moment in the criminal trial where the axe murderer goes for the insanity defense.In post 3464, Aristeia wrote:wow I went from clueless loveblinded doorknob moron into evil cunning scum mastermind pretty fast when I thought your case on Dats sucked
pretty crazy stuff.In post 3456, Aristeia wrote:You're not scary to me. You are a sad clown.In post 3453, Aristeia wrote:I am responding to your allegations that I am a gamethrower. That is not derailing your "push".In post 3454, Aristeia wrote:If you don't want to piss me off you should probably not insult me. If you want to make a case for me being mafia, feel free to do so.In post 3449, Aristeia wrote:
Save him from what? The boredom of talking to you?In post 3442, Frogsterking wrote:I'm continuing my push I started against Datisi in 3339, but Ari's attempts to save him and derail the push starting in 3389 make me convinced she is the scum partner
This is the *real* Ari. This is the first point (that I noticed) Ari breaks the character of her gimmick. I think this happens here because of her anger over being accused of a simple "game thrower" rather than a "master manipulator" or whatever they want to be viewed as.In post 3421, Aristeia wrote:
You didn't link a single fucking example of you quickhammering as town in any game ever.In post 3396, Frogsterking wrote:I put effort into supplying you with links that cast reasonable doubt this behavior is AI for me.
The closest you could come up with was you hammering in a game EIGHTEEN FUCKING DAYS AFTER DAY START AND AFTER EVERYONE HAD DISCUSSED THE ELIM FOR LITERALLY WEEKS.
YOU HAMMERED SOMEONE BEFORE ONE DAY WAS EVEN OVER.
IT IS NOT THE SAME FUCKING THING
She really really gets into this and reveals more of what her actual temperament is like:
In post 3419, Aristeia wrote:In post 3414, Frogsterking wrote:intentionally gamethrowing.
There is a report function for gamethrowing behavior that you can press and send to Site Administration if you actually believe this horseshitIn post 3415, Aristeia wrote:
I was literally the only scum player trying to win in that game. one scum player lolbussed and the other scum player disappeared so fuck off with your gamethrowing bullshit.In post 3396, Frogsterking wrote:The only game previously you were on an opposing alignment of Datisi you lost, and you seemed pretty pleased with the result.
So why did Ari take the survey in the first place? I think she just did it to gloat, to lie about her personality (in a way that is congruent with the character of the gimmick) and get away with it.In post 3393, Aristeia wrote:Let me make it very clear however for you so you don't have to reach through your dictionary for other insults towards my play.
If you are town and you decided to quickhammer on d2 and then try to go for another quickhammer immediately afterwards on another town player; it is you who is the game-throwing clown here so I have no respect for any comments made by you towards the quality of my play.
Phew, okay, next I'm going to post my notes from the *Ari liek plays for love* list, because those are easier to falsifiable after you've seen the patterns I pointed out in this post.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.- innocentvillager
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I will get to this today or tmr, I promise to at least skim from 3339 to now. Regardless of your alignment I respect the effort you put in. I will say before reading that you look a little emotionally tunnelled/confbiased to me but I will keep an open mindIn post 3519, Frogsterking wrote:READ AT 3339 AND WATCH HOW THEY RESPOND TO MY PUSH, THEN READ MY ISO UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND THE GAME STATE; I KNOW I SOUND CRAZY, PLEASE GIVE ME A CHANCE! IT'S A WEIRD GAME.- Frogsterking
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Okay..please do.In post 3520, innocentvillager wrote:
I will get to this today or tmr, I promise to at least skim from 3339 to now. Regardless of your alignment I respect the effort you put in. I will say before reading that you look a little emotionally tunnelled/confbiased to me but I will keep an open mindIn post 3519, Frogsterking wrote:READ AT 3339 AND WATCH HOW THEY RESPOND TO MY PUSH, THEN READ MY ISO UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND THE GAME STATE; I KNOW I SOUND CRAZY, PLEASE GIVE ME A CHANCE! IT'S A WEIRD GAME.
I feel pretty confident that I'm emotionally tunnelled and confbiased, and that had a negative impact on what I'm trying to communicate, and also that what I'm trying to communicate is important and I did the best I could in the moment.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.- Something_Smart
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disappointed but not surprised.
you wanna say which part of that trainwreck you found convincing?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Frogsterking
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S_S is there any way there can actually be three mafia left? It appears to me that's what's happening with Math's slot.
Also I really want Ari first but I don't want to keep the townie votes split at all: VOTE: DatisiBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks. - Frogsterking
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