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I'll drop the plan and the graverob deal tonight. Thanks for being patient.

Ben, why don't you just edit the list from your ISO #283 a bit instead of going and making an entirely new one?

Nachomamma8 wrote:Ben, why don't you just edit the list from your ISO #283 a bit instead of going and making an entirely new one?

That is essentially the base. But I want to give this a little more effort. I'm going to be sending out the gastapo. And locking down the scum with grave robbing. We gotta do this correctly. This is probably our best shot at turning this game around and winning.

I had a busy weekend. There's no reason to rush this.

Seacore wrote:The action list was mine

Thanks, I'll take a look at it and see what I can extrapolate from the days that came after on who we know will have equipment and who won't and see if that changes my opinions of the grave rob plan as it currently stands; but does anyone have an opinion of switching so Plum is with both Benmage and I instead of the way it currently is. I think this is a necessity but I want to spend a little time thinking about the target graves for her.

I'm gonna be double rob graving and making Plum double rob grave. I can either put her on both my targets or not, or split with yourself. I was gonna look at that whole deal later as well.

Seacore wrote:But yes, I think we should just head to night now. The graverob is done. Benmage can either post his list or not, at this point it's not a big deal.

What the fuck is this noise? Benmage's list is INSANELY important. Not to mention that townies besides Benmage can forward potential stalkers if they like.

Tonight, we cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war. This needs to be very clearly understood by everyone; murder without foresight solves nothing. We need to designate our murderers, and we need to designate our targets that no one will ward. This is the biggest deal.

Come on now hit you know better but I'm just a zombie waiting for release.

Doesn't change the fact that tonight is the night we stalk, so today is the day we plan the stalk. You could be ElG 2.0 and I'd still be pissed if you were hammered before our shit was sorted out.

Ohhh THATS not the part I'm talking about. You need to hammer it out.

However, tying it down TOO HARD (X stalks Y) is just inviting the cult to manipulate all the night actions just rite.

And you know that you silly goose.

That's why we're making a list of acceptable stalk targets and not saying "X, stalk Y".

Just making sure it hadn't jumped the shark somewhere.

I've said my piece and am fairly quietly waiting for death soo

Pretty Fly for a Spy Guy wrote: However, tying it down TOO HARD (X stalks Y) is just inviting the cult to manipulate all the night actions just rite.

And you know that you silly goose.

That was exactly my problem with "X SHOULD STALK NICO", and the reason I wanted it done this way.

We're picking the murderers, and Ben is whipping up a big old list of targets. Big enough, crucially, that they can't all be warded. (I assume Benmage's possible-scum list will be a little bigger than the actual number of scum :p). Add in the fact that a ward target cannot ward someone else, and suddenly the cultbags have a golly-gash-darned on their hands.

Now's the time to do it at least.

Just HEED MA WORDS SOME PLEASE MURDER DEATH MACHINE

Busy weekend. Sorry about not posting these lists sooner, it took a while to check everything.

Apparently all we're waiting for is Benmage to post a list of stalk targets, after which we need to propose stalkers. I'd suggest Baby Spice, but I anticipate she will be among the targets. I'll think about this when I see Benmage's list.

About testing for voting-related insanities, by the way. Since voting yourself is possible, the test could be as simple as this:

Vote: myself
Vote: xvart
Vote: myself
Vote: xvart
Unvote

This should cover Distraction (reverted to old vote twice), Paranoid (after voting yourself, you should not be able to vote anyone else) and Sadism (no one is at L-2 at the start of the day). This way no one would have to vote everyone at the start of the day. xvart could vote himself and anyone else who has not yet voted him to be thoroughly tested too.

Players without fetishes

(warding them makes most sense)
Iecerint

Players in danger of ritual kill

(resuscitation targets)
Andrius
AurorusVox
Baby Spice
Benmage
Feysal
hitogoroshi
kunkstar7
Nachomamma8
Nicodemus
Plum
Seacore
totallynotmafia
Triglav
Trilobite
VasudeVa
VP Baltar
Wraith
xvart

Everyone except Iecerint. Included hitogoroshi and xvart, since there could be another fetish of you both.

Players who are bloody

(makes no sense to investigate)
xvart

Players with insanities

(do not commune anyone known to have more insanities than you)
Andrius (3)
AurorusVox (2)
Baby Spice (1)
Benmage (5)
hitogoroshi (2)
kunkstar7 (2)
Nicodemus (1)
Plum (2)
Seacore (3)
Triglav (1)
Trilobite (1)
VP Baltar (3)
Wraith (1)
xvart (4)

This list DOES NOT yet include insanities from planned stalks, but grave robs are included.

Grave robbers

El Goosuki: Benmage, AurorusVox
Furcolow: VP Baltar, AurorusVox
Wickedestjr: Seacore, Plum
SpyreX: xvart, Plum

This was the latest list I could find, if something has changed, please correct.

xvart #3517 wrote:Who posted that action table spanning multiple days from a couple days ago? I'd like to take a look at it but I can't remember who it was.

Seacore posted one table, but I think there was some data missing from it. Wickedestjr and xvart have compiled the more detailed lists.

Our Killers for tonight:
hitorogoshi
VP Baltar
Seacore
Iecerint
Wraith?


Those who need to die, descending from biggest threat to least:
kunkstar7
Baby Spice
Feysal
Plum
Triglav
AurorusVox
totallynotmafia
Nicodemus(lurker)



Rob Grave Plan:
El G: Benmage, Plum
Furclow: Xvart, Plum
Wickedstjr: VPB, AV
SpyreX: Benmage, AV



Let’s see where we stand:
84-Andrius
167-AurorusVox
81-Baby Spice
304-Benmage
50-Feysal
121-hitorogoshi
(116)85-28-3-Iecerint replacing manho replacing Wingless
56-kunkstar7
(54)11-35-8-Nachomamma8 replacing nopointinactingup replacing Super Smash Bros. Fan
(16)11-5-Nicodemus replacing Bowser
79-Plum
376-Seacore
47-totallynotmafia
42-Triglav
95-Trilobite
103-VasudeVa
168-VP Baltar
(152)131-21-Wraith replacing rewq455
87-xvart


TNM- investigation on Wicked seems like an odd night action.
-What was TNM’s night action other than forensic kit search.

I’d like to hear what Kunkstars Night actions have been.

I’d like to hear Triglav’s night actions.

Furcolow wrote:im going to ward iecerint so that i may be rezzed.

Last post.

Wraith wrote:I attempted to rez Furcolow both tonight and last night, and I failed both times. Furcolow must have been a total dumbass and ignored the multiple times I said "FURCOLOW DO NOT REZ TONIGHT"

I'm confused....Wraith must stalk tonight methinks??

Look I gotta run. Here’s what we got so far. This will allow commentary atleast.

Benmage wrote:I’d like to hear Triglav’s night actions.

This is because we don't post a lot?
Why not worried about tnm than?
Five posts equals difference betwixt and between worry?

Night 0 - search occult books
Night 1 - search res kit
Night 2 - commune npau (equal insanity to us (0) insanity gained)
Night 3 - res Seacore (he was obvious town strawman = useful to have. No attack on him)
Night 4 - mystery yet to be decided.

Benmage wrote:-What was TNM’s night action other than forensic kit search.

This head is idiot.
Will go away now.

So I'm stalking my favorite player on that list?

I'm not killing. Plum is. I'm rezzing someone.

And also, he probably changed his mind at the last second like an idiot, like he usually does. The rez failed, which (I believe) means it wasn't a Greater Ritual.

Iecerint wrote:So I'm stalking my favorite player on that list?

Yes.

Wraith wrote:I'm not killing. Plum is. I'm rezzing someone.

Plum isn't killing. We are having our most town people stalk and kill cult. Which will fully confirm them. We aren't having our scummy players stalk/kill because there are too many variables involving warding and whatnot. So we are tying down our scummy players with double rob graving.

OH YEAH DO NOT CLAIM WHO YOU ARE STALKING.... THIS IS KEY

Wraith wrote:And also, he probably changed his mind at the last second like an idiot, like he usually does. The rez failed, which (I believe) means it wasn't a Greater Ritual.

No shit, he was murdered by xvart.

And tomorrow, people aren't going to claim who they stalked?