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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:59 pm
by zMuffinMan
gcbc wrote:Let's say we shelf lynching me until the day before LYLO where I agree to self vote; and we don't lynch Muffin or Nacho. Where exactly does that leave us? Lynching Saki? I mean as much as I'd love to see saki dead that just leaves the jumbled mess for another day.
this is really odd, btw
like, yeah, this will need to be resolved at some point, but if you think saki is scum, why wouldn't that be a good thing?
gcbc wrote:Yes, and?
and nothing. you're not thinking if you're actually suggesting this is likely.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:00 pm
by Sakura Hana
Oh another interesting thing
Wiki wrote:Some mods interchange Bomb and SuperSaint, the latter of which kills the person who placed the final vote on their lynch wagon.
The Bomb shares some similarities with the Paranoid Gun Owner. In one version of the Bomb role, when the Bomb is killed at Night all other players who target the Bomb that Night will also die.
The role Suicide Bomber is not related to this role.
The Bomb may or may not kill their attacker if they are saved by a Doctor.
We do have a doctor and a 1-shot bomb, guess the 1-shot makes sense in the bolded scenario.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:01 pm
by Nachomamma8
Hey Cabd, even drunk Nacho can see you didn't respond to anything he posted.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:02 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 3490, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:These aren't in strength order within the list..
Townreads:
Kat- Yuyuko: Oracle
Both play and the whole ETL backup mod knowledge thing, if she's scum she's scum oracle that submitted the ngiht she claims.
AD- Remilia: 2-shot kill cop (CoK killed n1, Nacho has not killed)
It's not worth considering a bussed guilty here unless something crazy happens)
GCBC- Tensh: Bulletproof
I'm still town
Kagami- China: Macho Gatekeeper (RBed and RSed Jaqen n1, Pie n2)
Play, Role both strong town
Jaqen- Patchy: IC
As much as he's playing anti-town, mod doesn't lie
Pie- Koishi: Mason Encryptor
Flipped mason on the board, confirmed town
MC- Marisa: Thief (jacked shiki's stick n1, nothing from dram n2)
Play, role could technically go either way, if one of my townreads is wrong this is it, but eh.
Likely town, but not as strong of a read:
Kise- Nitori: Inventor (gave track to pie n1, unknown n2)
Inventor or not, his play has been incredibly weak IMO
Varsoon- Tewi: 1-shot redirector (redirected actions on Jaqen n1 to GCBC)
He's probably town but I don't think I'll ever manage to actually put him in upper town; sue me
Mac- Sanae: Doctor
Claim makes sense but play is a bit weaker than I'd expect from mactown.
Nulls:
bubba- Okuu: 1-shot bomb (use unknown)
Fuckifiknow
Sakura- Yuuka: VT
Recent interactions should probably move her up a peg
Dramonic- Byakuren: VT
He's just.... empty inside. Also I seem to remember him being less competent as town in 165. Lots of strategic lurking, little substance.
Scumreads:
Nacho- Merlin Prismriver: 2-shot Motivator, compulsive Visitor (Lush n1, AD n2)
Muffin- Aya: 2-shot tracker (dram did nothing n1, kat nothing n2)
Saki- Eirin: VT
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:02 pm
by Nachomamma8
STILL DTUNK, STILL NO RESPONSE
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:03 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
You AND your liver can wait until I'm done with sakura, TYVM.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:03 pm
by Nachomamma8
Oh yeah that's cool sort out someone who's obviously town
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:03 pm
by Nachomamma8
Have fun with that!
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:05 pm
by Sakura Hana
So let's suppose you move me up and bench nacho and muffin as town, that leaves you with.
Saki, Dramonic, Bubba.
Those are quite amazing odds.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:06 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 3533, Sakura Hana wrote:So let's suppose you move me up and bench nacho and muffin as town, that leaves you with.
Saki, Dramonic, Bubba.
Those are quite amazing odds.
Odds?
Odds of what?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:06 pm
by Nachomamma8
And some pretty shit scumreads
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:06 pm
by Sakura Hana
If you haven't noticed im also trying to sort Cabd's thoughts and figure whether he's scum as you say, or Town as i intially saw on the first 20 pages.
PEd. Odds of lynching scum.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:07 pm
by Sakura Hana
So Nacho, if Cabd isn't scum who is.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:08 pm
by zMuffinMan
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:08 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 3536, Sakura Hana wrote:
If you haven't noticed im also trying to sort Cabd's thoughts and figure whether he's scum as you say, or Town as i intially saw on the first 20 pages.
PEd. Odds of lynching scum.
Sort him out yourself, I'm drinking more
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:09 pm
by Sakura Hana
That's what im doing so please go back to drinking instead of interrupting.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:09 pm
by zMuffinMan
cabd
when/why did you start thinking nacho is scum?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:11 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
I don't have exact notes, but I had a townread on the hydra before knowing it was nacho, and started having suspicions when ffery left and I found out the truth; and then his day three opening kind of cemented it.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:12 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
Well sure, I think almost everybody has the same POE pool of:
{GCBC, Muffin, Saki, Dram, Bubba, Sakura} give or take one or two names.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:14 pm
by zMuffinMan
that time line is messed up a bit?
amaranth didn't post til after ffery had already left (like well after)
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:15 pm
by zMuffinMan
his D3 opening post:
this cemented it?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:16 pm
by Sakura Hana
This is quite interesting...
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:16 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
In post 3544, zMuffinMan wrote:that time line is messed up a bit?
amaranth didn't post til after ffery had already left (like well after)
Then maybe I am mis-remembering. I'm kind of avoiding that entire fight best I can mentally. digging it up once more will bring no good. Not to mention I feel terrible discussing it with neither party around to speak for themselves.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:16 pm
by GoodCop_BadCop
Okay by "opening post" I meant his big one defending you.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:16 pm
by Sakura Hana
Mostly because Nacho agreed that he didnt intervene because he thought mollie could handle herself or something like that.