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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:26 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
T S O wrote:Well, we've come to an impasse. I want EE dead.


That feeling as well, is mutual.

Pedit he's wrong shiro. But do it. I don't want to deal with him anymore.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:33 am
by T S O
You have no idea how conflicted I feel by that question.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:34 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
Varsoon wrote:I was too stretched thin between real-life (working 11 hours/day at the time) and my other games that were further along/modding.
I couldn't commit the resources so I figured the best way to get the most out of my role would be to lay low, fake a PR, and hope I got lucky at night.


Lunch errant with me? I feel bad lynching my white knight but I do still want to win this one for town and I can't let feelings get in the way or I would have self voted long ago.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:35 am
by TheWayItEnds
T S O wrote:I'm not sure there's much I can really say to TWIE. He'll vote him if he wants to.


this is true.

its nice being understood.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:36 am
by TheWayItEnds
i dont know why you're having a hard time with this.

we're not gonna lynch errant.

because im reading him as town and whatever i say goes.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:37 am
by Varsoon
I'm probably going to just sheep TSO forever and cross my fingers that I'm right on my townread there.
Well, unless I notice something that I need to pursue, of course.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:37 am
by T S O
I mean, there's the obvious side of me calling both you and EE scum, and the way you approached the vote making that seem less likely, so that's worrying me.

What gets me a lot more, though, is that I've asked you to sheep me already this game, banking on previous games where I was playing well, where I would request a sheep in situations where I knew I was right, but couldn't make other people see it. This isn't that game; my confidence was shaken enough by Alchemist's flip to make it an entirely different one.

I am not sure I can ask you to do it again after being wrong here, because it's unfair of me. I would -like- you to vote EE, but I am not going to ask for a sheep. This isn't a sheep vote and I don't want one; I'm not convinced enough by myself for it to be a sheep.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:37 am
by T S O
TWIE, I don't want Errant dead, neither do you - vote EE?

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:40 am
by TheWayItEnds
i sorta feel the same way about this lynch that i did with jaqens.

like i dont mind it, but im also not really that confident in a scum flip.

what happened to that iai wagon earlier.

i liked that one.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:40 am
by T S O
If you look at the ending d1 VC, it implies that one of Shiro and EE is scum on the Klingon counterwagon along with Klingon. So if EE isn't scum, Shiro probably
is
... but I'd rather not waste a mislynch to figure that out.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:41 am
by TheWayItEnds
i mean of the 2 id rather lynch shiro i think.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:42 am
by TheWayItEnds
like id almost lynch shiro for just

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:43 am
by T S O
Or we could just vig him, I suppose.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:45 am
by T S O
I'll again stick with Eagle, but will change my preferred vig choice in the event of Eagle-town from myself to Shiro.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:46 am
by TheWayItEnds
even night is vig night?

that might be fine.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:51 am
by T S O
Indeed!

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:09 am
by Errantparabola
Twie come on to shiro with the cool kids then.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:16 am
by ZZZX
T S O wrote:I mean, ZZZX is playing to his scum meta of lurking. I didn't expect ZZZX to solve the game, but I expected him to attempt to help out, rather than go back to lurking uselessly.

Just started the uni semister. and first two days were hectic. But I wont lurk this game. That much I will say.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:18 am
by Elyse
Varsoon wrote:Elyse, can you give me your reads?
I'm trying to sink my teeth back into this game but I'm having trouble as it's 140 pages that feels like a fever dream.

Passionate Storm - town
Garmr - town
I Am Innocent - scummy but getting better
ZZZX (replaces inte) - scum
PeregrineV - who the hell knows, probably town
TheWayItEnds - town
T S O - town
Shiro - scum if EE isn't
My Other Head Is Scum - scum
Extrapolated Eagle - scum
Aneninen - town
randomidget - town
Errantparabola - could be scum but probably not with EE
Elyse - town
Varsoon - town

My guess is that the team is {EE, ZZZX, MOHIS, IAI} or {Shiro, ZZZX, errant, MOHIS} with possibly IAI in the second team and possible PerV in either.

I would be very down for a ZZZX or MOHIS lynch because I think they are scum regardless, but an EE scumflip is the most helpful because in my mind it would clear errant and Shiro and TSO for those who have doubts about him.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:28 am
by T S O
IAI-scum doesn't produce that bus on EE-scum. They can't be aligned.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:29 am
by Elyse
Ehhh I guess it's unlikely but I wouldn't rule it out completely.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:35 am
by ZZZX
I can see people null reading me or anything. But how would you get a fucking scum read on the little bit I did (or the older inte did). Elyse like... wtf?

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:37 am
by T S O
Because most people have done things to look town, and hardlurking for close to 150 pages doesn't make you null.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:40 am
by TheWayItEnds
TheWayItEnds wrote:i dont know why you're having a hard time with this.

we're not gonna lynch mohis

because im reading him as town and whatever i say goes.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:41 am
by ZZZX
T S O wrote:Because most people have done things to look town, and hardlurking for close to 150 pages doesn't make you null.

Let me just prove you wrong a few times here. When i used to hardlurk as both allignment perhaps i was useless but that didnt make me any more town/scum than anything. replacing out is another pointer that its null here. How am I wrong?

is not playing "town-wise" by lurking scum? if that was true then mafia would be so easy.

If you disagree TSO then tell me. You know arguing here will help me get your allignment right. SO I'd be grateful for this discussion to start.