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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:46 am
by Dunnstral
She didn't say it, you took part of the sentance apart, your assertion here has as much validity as me pointing to 3523 and trying to use that as proof

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:48 am
by zMuffinMan
but you are doing that... so what point are you trying to make?

that we're both right or that we're both wrong? because in either scenario, that would mean mariar is scum lol

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:52 am
by Dunnstral
You can't take words out of context like in 3517 and point to it and say "look at the mindset"

That's misleading, it doesn't show what she was actually saying, she's speaking so that somebody who isn't her can understand it

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:52 am
by zMuffinMan
In post 3525, Dunnstral wrote:you took part of the sentance apart
i did. the part that stood out as something someone who knows someone else is fake-claiming wouldn't say

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:54 am
by Dunnstral
In post 3312, Katsuki wrote:YES I FAKECLAIMED A GUILTY
okay, this isn't something that somebody who was telling the truth about cop results would say.

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:55 am
by zMuffinMan
so what exactly do you think cupcake's role is?

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:55 am
by Dunnstral
In post 3530, zMuffinMan wrote:so what exactly do you think cupcake's role is?
Neighborizor

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:56 am
by Dunnstral
inb4 "that's not a main character role"

We haven't seen him flip main character yet

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:56 am
by Dunnstral
If he flips joat I'll take another look

Until then I have no intention of going along with what he is saying

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:01 pm
by zMuffinMan
you think he fake-claimed deemo (and changed his avatar to the picture of deemo), the titular character of the game this flavour is based on, and no one is counter-claiming that?

or you think fakegod just made that role an underpowered neighbouriser (who can only keep neighbourhoods open for a single day phase) in a game where main characters are always the more power-heavy roles?

l o l

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:02 pm
by Sakura Hana
I see what muffin's driving at.

That's a legit scum claim LMAO

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:03 pm
by Sakura Hana
Even if Katsuki's fake claiming MariaR scumslipped, nice one i didnt see that one muffin.

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:09 pm
by zMuffinMan
like it's possible cupcake
is
fake-claiming something about his role, but he's not lying about being a main character and he's not lying about being more than a neighbouriser

he fake-claimed a guilty on ank last game when he was roleblocked but otherwise told the truth about his results (yeah he also fake-claimed a guilty on you but that had nothing to do with his actual results)

you're trying to suggest that because he has a penchant for fake-claiming, he can't be believed at all

i fully believe cupcake is the kind of player who has no reservations about fake-claiming if he has no meaningful results

i don't believe cupcake is the kind of player who would fake-claim at the cost of making his actual results ambiguous (i.e. if he doesn't have a guilty on mariar, it's because he doesn't have a meaningful result to share or he's not worried that people won't be able to tell what his meaningful results are)

so *shrug*

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:15 pm
by zMuffinMan
oh, and the addendum to that last part is that i do believe he's a "JOAT", so the question leads back to: what do you think cupcake's role does if he's a neighbourising JOAT?

i will say this: i believe he isn't lying about having multiple cop shots. he is omitting information but i'm reasonably confident that at least one of my assumptions about how his role works is correct and mariar is probably scum regardless

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:22 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 3524, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 3522, Dunnstral wrote:she's making an argument for why you should wait to see the flip
(that doesn't matter, why would she say that in the first place?)
Why would Katsuki say this:
In post 3312, Katsuki wrote:YES I FAKECLAIMED A GUILTY

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:23 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 3536, Sakura Hana wrote:Even if Katsuki's fake claiming MariaR scumslipped, nice one i didnt see that one muffin.
I could make a case that you 'slipped' the same way here
In post 3536, Sakura Hana wrote:Even if Katsuki's fake claiming
I thought you believed Katsuki? What is the point of mind here?

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:24 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 3481, Sakura Hana wrote:i believe that Katsuki is the role he is claiming.
In post 3536, Sakura Hana wrote:Even if Katsuki's fake claiming

That's right, now sit down Sakura

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:26 pm
by Sakura Hana
If you're going to get into semantics then explain to me why does a town player leave open the possibility that Katsuki's telling the truth about the guilty on them.

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:28 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 3542, Sakura Hana wrote:If you're going to get into semantics then explain to me why does a town player leave open the possibility that Katsuki's telling the truth about the guilty on them.
She doesn't.

Let's look at what she says:
In post 3475, MariaR wrote:
In post 3473, Sakura Hana wrote:My logic is still sound regardless, if scum had any reason to disbelieve Katsuki, then Katsuki wouldn't be poisoned, ergo, Dunn and muffin are town, possibly Wisdom too.
MariaR is also scum.
Katsuki is fake claiming period.
If he really is cop
you'll see it when he's done being poisoned at day end I know I'm town at most I live for one more day.

We get the pools figured out and decide what pool to lynch in
Seems pretty clear that she doesn't believe the claim. She's telling you to lynch not her today because if katsuki were cop you'd see it on his flip and could lynch her the next day

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:29 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 3541, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3481, Sakura Hana wrote:i believe that Katsuki is the role he is claiming.
In post 3536, Sakura Hana wrote:Even if Katsuki's fake claiming

That's right, now sit down Sakura
Now it's your turn

This is literally what you just accused MariaR of doing, so you'd better explain yourself. Do you believe Katsuki, or do you think he can be fake claiming?

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:30 pm
by Spiffeh
Hmmmm

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:31 pm
by Sakura Hana
Oh.
So that's what happens when people leave out parts of quotes.

In any case, I still believe the guilty.

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:31 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 3546, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh.
So that's what happens when people leave out parts of quotes.
I said this like 4 times

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:32 pm
by Spiffeh
The only thing I have learned today is that projectmatt completely disappears when he’s not in the hotseat

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:32 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 3546, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh.
So that's what happens when people leave out parts of quotes.

In any case, I still believe the guilty.
OK. But I don't, so I'm not going to let us lynch MariaR. We can sit here until deadline and see who gets rushed up or we can talk about other people, your call