I'm done engaging with you directly for a while because this is getting dangerously close to turning into a toxic back and forth that does nothing but chole the thread. I refuse to roll over and die just because you'd rather scumread a perfectly logical set of plays from us.
Dunn makes perfect sense as a potential off the wagon kill as he is consensus town read.
Quite frankly I think you're town and that the alternate win condition shit is a distraction you're way overly focused on. We literally don't know how many demons there are right now exactly. It could be three. It could be whatever the cap is on the range bork gave for today. Either way I think bork a competent enough mod to not let a secondary win condition magically end the game before day four.
I'm done engaging with you directly for a while because this is getting dangerously close to turning into a toxic back and forth that does nothing but chole the thread. I refuse to roll over and die just because you'd rather scumread a perfectly logical set of plays from us.
Dunn makes perfect sense as a potential off the wagon kill as he is consensus town read.
Quite frankly I think you're town and that the alternate win condition shit is a distraction you're way overly focused on. We literally don't know how many demons there are right now exactly. It could be three. It could be whatever the cap is on the range bork gave for today.
Either way I think bork a competent enough mod to not let a secondary win condition magically end the game before day four.
I'm done engaging with you directly for a while because this is getting dangerously close to turning into a toxic back and forth that does nothing but chole the thread. I refuse to roll over and die just because you'd rather scumread a perfectly logical set of plays from us.
Dunn makes perfect sense as a potential off the wagon kill as he is consensus town read.
Quite frankly I think you're town and that the alternate win condition shit is a distraction you're way overly focused on. We literally don't know how many demons there are right now exactly. It could be three. It could be whatever the cap is on the range bork gave for today. Either way I think bork a competent enough mod to not let a secondary win condition magically end the game before day four.
In post 3531, Medea the Alien wrote:Dunn did you get to see the human part that we would be or just as we currently are?
I can only see role information related to your current form, so no I don't get to see that
I also can't see flavor name, number of shards, whether you're actually a human or demon, etc.
Vote: Dragons
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:34 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:35 pm
by Dunnstral
VOTE: Here There Be Dragons
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:10 pm
by Lukewarm
Here is a just-woke-up-in the-middle-of-the-night-and-while-getting-a-glass-of-water thought.
We can potentially test the dunn/medea duo tonight if someone targets Dunn overnight, and then we see if he get a result on that persons role.
Maybe good idea, but probably bad to coordinate who is doing so.
Also, maybe bad idea No deep thinking has happened here. Just a lightbulb went off
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:11 pm
by Lukewarm
Back to sleep now
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:17 am
by Spiffeh
In post 3379, Medea the Alien wrote:Yes. The doctor-part of my role is not why there's a no kill. Nor is the missing kill due to Rhea being the nightkill target and her being hidden.
It's fairly obvious here that scum self-sharded.
One starting town demon, one starting scum demon, create one more by self-sharding the same scum teammate with both and that's three.
Idk if this is even worth speculating and I am bad at discussing the setup but do we think scum self-sharded (assuming this because there are no new demon claims) because they knew that player had a good chance of getting limmed today?
I could see scum trying to demonize the players that are about to die to lock them in as demons
In post 3413, unwnd wrote:Secondary team is starting to make sense in my head if all the pieces fit.
My ears are perked, hit me.
Ceph/Spiffeh/?
Pretty much
Can you remind me of your primary scum team?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:22 am
by Dunnstral
I think it's more likely they sharded their strongest demon pr.
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:47 am
by Spiffeh
While I think Dunnstral and Medea are Town currently, LLD has echoed some of my paranoia about writing them off as such. In order to achieve the secondary win condition (which is what they seem to be going for due to the lack of nightkill) scum need as much time as possible, and I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Medea/Dunn would recognize this and easily buy themselves several days with this gambit. At this point in time I don't think this is the case, and I'm hoping we just start hitting scum elsewhere so I don't even have to think about it anymore. Idc if this sounds like I'm hedging, I think it's worth mentioning and keeping in the back of our minds.
I am fine with CephTD and Pooky competing wagons, but feel Pooky is much more of a slam dunk and don't understand why CephTD is getting more attention.
I have reason to townread almost every other player other than maybe Lukewarm which bothers me and tells me I need to reevaluate. Could Snarky and Medea go into more detail about why they have unwnd so low on their reads lists? I have him as a pretty high townread but they've had him low for awhile and I'd like to understand why.
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:37 am
by Here There Be Dragons
just out of curiosity because i'm behind
did anyone provide a reason for our wagon? because iirc everyone who scumread us yesterday including Dunnstral didn't really provide a reason
why are people jumping on a "meh" wagon?
~std
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:06 am
by Here There Be Dragons
medea thinks ceph is too grumpy? that's enough for pooky annie rhea dunn? what the hell did i just read
it's kind of upsetting joining this game with my s/o trying to navigate this really cool player list just to find no one bothering to talk to us and everyone scumreading us without saying why because we're not town enough for them despite being town? for some reason cephy's not supposed to get too frustrated by that?
i think you should put yourselves in our shoes and see how that feels. we're trying our best and we want to do well, but it's hard when some people can't even be touched without strong cases but we get nothing, which is why cephrir feels grumpy about this game and says things like he feels like a second-class citizen or hot garbage. have some empathy for shit's sake.
~std
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:12 am
by Spiffeh
STD who do you think should be limmed today?
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:17 am
by Annie Edison
I was POEIng there and I am more susceptible to pressure when I’ve been getting yelled at
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:19 am
by Spiffeh
@STD You mentioned that Pooky, Annie, Rhea, and Dunn seemed to hop onto your wagon without much explanation. Do any of these in particular feel scum-motivated to you?
Additionally, what are your thoughts on the composition of the Titus wagon? Is there a vote or push there that stands out to you as scummy? I already stated I was perturbed at your slots behavior around the wagon, but now that you know Titus was town do you feel any differently about the other players who participated in her lim?
On my end, I am struggling to find players I DON'T townread and your slot is one of them. I understand why you could be frustrated because there doesn't seem to be an overarching case other than "you're not a town read" and if I were in your position I would probably be pissed off, but at this point I think a wagon on a player that is universally NOT town read is worth exploring. (I would heavily prefer Pooky getting limmed over you tho)
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:20 am
by Here There Be Dragons
without cephy's input, i'd say Pooky, unwnd, medea probably, but i'm wavering on all my reads
i don't really know what pooky's done, though the titus trap thing is a joke.
unwnd's tone has been off all d1 but it has admittedly gotten better d2.
medea trying to push us for ceph being "grumpy" and all the reasons we've listed before, though i think i'm more susceptible to believing they could be town with dunn's claim than cephy is.