Large Normal 235: Large Normal With No Multiball [Game Over]

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't believe Dwlee is scum here.

[Dwlee99]

Scum no kill if they know they don't have to worry about investigatives and can put us on evens with less info. Points towards cheeky!town probably cause if she wasn't an investigative scum would be uncomfortable not PR hunting, but if they have a roleblocker they don't need to worry about the one claimed investigative.

...or it got blocked

[DrippingGoofball]

If it got blocked, someone has a guilty of sorts.

Who would choose nokill this early in a large game?

[Dragon of the West]

my claim as tracker was faked to see what mega would say and if he would fall for the bait, but i had to improvise when people asked me for my n1 results. it DID work, though. mega only claimed his results after i claimed tracker meaning that he outed himself as a mafia member immediately. i wanted to see whether or not he would double down on it but i was pulled away from the computer and the day phase ended while i was gone

See...that's not why you claimed tracker though. You claimed tracker because you said your role explained why DGB couldn't add you to the PT

[DrippingGoofball]

What role could they have claimed to have that effect?

[Dragon of the West]

Look, the only way DGB and Cheeky are both Town at this point is if Scum have an Alien IIRC. So I suggest we just realize that and vote Gamma off today.

I know LQ got replaced but I wanted to say that DGB and Cheeky can both be town very easily if Shrek is scum here and that means it only took a rolestop on DGB or roleblock on Cheeky for the results to play out how they did

[Dragon of the West]

Wouldn't scum!mega have known that dgb was rolestopped if that were the case? Or that cheeky was roleblocked? I just think the whole thing is weird, but I think that one of Shrek and it are scum probably? Cause alien is a sort of far-fetched theory.

mega checked in literally once yesterday i dont think he was up to date on his

teammates claims

. that and he scumslipped anyway

How do you know his teammates claimed anything

[KittyTacky]

It's almost definitely a protection IMO. I don't see a case where it would be beneficial to no-kill unless it's some sort of 100000IQ play my brain is too small to comprehend. Maybe framing a roleblocker target or something.

[Nero Cain]

My assumption is that dgb was the intended kill and the bg saved dbg. Would dgbs neighboizor still happen if dgb was killed last night?

[KittyTacky]

My assumption is that dgb was the intended kill and the bg saved dbg. Would dgbs neighboizor still happen if dgb was killed last night?

Wouldn't the BG die then? Do you mean doctor?

[DrippingGoofball]

My assumption is that dgb was the intended kill and the bg saved dbg. Would dgbs neighboizor still happen if dgb was killed last night?

Yes it would.

[DrippingGoofball]

My assumption is that dgb was the intended kill and the bg saved dbg. Would dgbs neighboizor still happen if dgb was killed last night?

Wouldn't scum!mega have known that dgb was rolestopped if that were the case? Or that cheeky was roleblocked? I just think the whole thing is weird, but I think that one of Shrek and it are scum probably? Cause alien is a sort of far-fetched theory.

mega checked in literally once yesterday i dont think he was up to date on his

teammates claims

. that and he scumslipped anyway

How do you know his teammates claimed anything

DING DING DING

[Dragon of the West]

A50 I need you to parse all the claims from yesterday and what it means if Shrek "gambited" the tracker claim. I need someone rational. Like yesterday Shrek claimed he tracked StD to me N1, which gave improved probability of StD being a direct target, allowing still for possibility of DGB being role stopped or alien'd. If Shrek claim was fake then it makes no sense for scum to NK StD directly when DGB had claimed investigative and I was a claimed PR. Therefore for StD to die they must have protected DGB which means Rolestop and Alien is impossible because StD protect would have failed and a no kill would have happened N2.

Right?

Claiming he followed the dead bodyguard to the person most townread D1 was the easiest thing to fake claim as his N1 results.

Also, I still think it's likely DGB wasn't the NK target so drawing conclusions starting with the assumption that STD must've been protecting DGB is not good

[Dragon of the West]

if mafia aliened dgb why would they also try to kill them?? your logic makes zero sense

No because DGB would have wasted their 2nd shot being aliened and effectively became a VT in subsequent day phases. Killing them just creates conftown

[Nero Cain]

So could scum have blocked dbg and cheeky is lying about being blocked?

[Nero Cain]

Though tbh Shrek just makes a ton of sense as scum to me

[Dragon of the West]

Upstanding red role PM citizen MegA wanted to draw our attention to this:

-_(*-*)_-

I did though. Which makes me think its something funky.

Important note is DGB was NOT the intended NK since STD didn't visit.

I feel like this is a lot of WIFOM. But part of me wonders if mega just tells the truth here about STD not protecting DGB out of fear of their claim being even more contradicted somehow

[Nero Cain]

Would be absolutely hilarious if scum both tired to kill and block dgb and it backfires and 2 of thier team gets outted

[Dragon of the West]

put me up if you want but im legitimately town. personally my choices for a lim today would be mega/kitty/a50. i KNOW what you are thinking that i am mega sus for not joining your hood but i have a PR that explains it. not sure if i should claim now or later when im endangered but i completely understand where dgb/lq are coming from so do NOT get on them either just yet

I don't understand the guilty on Shrek though because if they flip green then we just kill DGB? Unless Shrek is scum buss to let DGB end game?

assuming theyre not lying about their role in the first place, i know that theyre telling the truth about me not joining the hood. HOWEVER that is NAI due to my PR

fuck it ill claim but just to stop the gladiating

cheeky dgb isnt ascetic. im a tracker and dgb didnt perform an action last night which means it was either rbed or is lying about what it is

dgb didnt perform an action last night

is lying about what it is

This makes zero sense...

it means that if it didnt perform an action and is lying about their role then they cant actually be neighborizer and you two are scum partners

@Mod if a player is RBed, will it show up as them having 'no action' on the tracker report?

i mean i didnt get a result back so idk what he is. you tell me.

Shrek did you get no result or no action?

i got no result back. are they not the same thing?

oh my b. i got the first one

(in pms)

@Mod if a player is RBed, will it show up as them having 'no action' on the tracker report?

Roleblocked actions don't show up for action investigatives

dgb may have actually targeted me but it didnt show up then

n1 im sure i wasnt blocked because std visited cheeky

cheeky how can you be roleblocked if mega said you visited dgb at the same time?? one of you or mega is lying out of your asses i think

and no std visited you n1 not n2. iirc his role says if he blocks a nk he dies instead

yeah true. but how would you still be able to visit dgb if you were rbed???? i dont get your logic

hence me wanting to vote for mega or you cause one of you is 100% lying. i want mega because his claim was bs, he's been inactive, and only claimed me and you visited dgb after we both outright admitted we did

why would a mason be rbed

Because Cheeky is Cop or other investigative role.

how would scum know that though

What do you mean?

std was the only person who visited cheeky n1 and we know hes not scum. why would scum choose to rb cheeky randomly when dgb not being able to add someone to its hood is an infinitely better option

Does this read like he caught MegA red handed with a gambit. Please. Stop. Being. Dumbells.

This is a good post

[DrippingGoofball]

Upstanding red role PM citizen MegA wanted to draw our attention to this:

-_(*-*)_-

I did though. Which makes me think its something funky.

Important note is DGB was NOT the intended NK since STD didn't visit.

I feel like this is a lot of WIFOM. But part of me wonders if mega just tells the truth here about STD not protecting DGB out of fear of their claim being even more contradicted somehow

I agree with this, too.

[Dragon of the West]

Town reading gamma and scumreading me to start with

What do you think of cheeky having a N1 result on gamma? Do you think it's a lie or...? Because if you think cheeky is town and their claims are true then you should understand the gamma TR. Assuming they got some type of innocent on gamma

[Dragon of the West]

What role could they have claimed to have that effect?

No idea, which is why the subsequent play makes no sense from town. Shrek said their role explained it, then it didn't and just threw shade on you by saying you didn't go anywhere N2, then said "but DGB is probably still town, most likely there's an alien and all 3 of us are town" (which is ???? not what's most probable and if scum!Shrek probably TMI on DGB), then doesn't out the "gambit" after mega would've been caught by their gambit, and then comes out D4 trying to explain that it was all a gambit to catch mega even though they never sprung the trap and tried to continue to put shade on Cheeky/DGB on D3 until the end of day. If Shrek is town and DGB got roleblocked so Shrek didn't get added to PT, town!Shrek doesn't go "oh my role explains it but not actually, let me make up a fake claim gambit to catch the mostly already caught scum". Town!anyone would go "DGB is either lying or their action got blocked because I'm town" and at most real claims once they get run up

[Dragon of the West]

Alright, that's my input for now. Probably won't be back until tomorrow morning.

VOTE: Shrek

[Nero Cain]

Until cheeky hard claims or does I don't care about their "result" I think gamma's play is scummy and if I need to re ivaluate latter I can but until then my pitchfork is aimed at gamma

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma am I conf town?

not quite, but you're at least a hard TR