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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:47 pm
by the worst
if bugs was actually scum there's like a 100% chance there is a chess match in the scum pt

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:48 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
koba is very good at chess

i can see it being a slaughter

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:48 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 3546, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm just curious btw

if you are scum - is there a chess game in the Scum PT between Koba and Bugspray ?
Yes. If I am scum, there is a chess game in the scum PT between Koba and bugspray.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:49 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Which opening did bugspray play? this is very useful information for my studies

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:55 pm
by the worst
e4

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:03 pm
by dsjstr
He actually played a queens opening, wanted to go easy.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:11 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Added data based on posts/day for his games.

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From the data it looks like he tends to post more often as town than scum by a significant margin per day - this could be skewed by the fact that he tends to replace out early as scum without doing much while as town he tends to get into more heated engagements.

Analyzing the data from this game he's at 4.64 posts/day currently - which is closer to his scum-range than his town-range. I'll do some more re-reading of his scum games when I get a chance to.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:50 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
Scum games might be skewed lower than normal due to 2 of the 5 games being very early replace outs and one of them being a replace in right before game end so the sample size is quite small on the scum side.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:50 pm
by the worst
Let's policy elim datisi for not spamming

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:52 pm
by the worst
I appreciate the amount of effort you put into that, but I'd rather lose to scumtisi posting well than win against scumtisi because he didn't post enough fluff. This will sound dismissive but it's v much a me thing / an argument I'm not comfortable engaging with at an ethos level

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:53 pm
by the worst
I think that data might be more useful as a % of posts per phase as well, just tangentially

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:13 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i don't understand - the data analysis is of dsjtr - not datisi

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:16 pm
by the worst
stupid pronouns!!!!
obviously i had datisi on my mind

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:22 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3536, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3412, dsjstr wrote:
In post 3397, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3305, dsjstr wrote:If I'm wrong then I'd like to be the hammer today.
can you explain why you want to be hammer today?
I have many many many town games where I am the elim in ELO, I'd like to avoid that.
I spent some time pulling dsj's games on this site and here's his game history until December 2019 - I excluded Partition and Grand Conspiracy due to the strange voting rules in those games:

Game Link Role Result
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=83776 Townie Replaced D1
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=83080 Scum Replaced D1
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=83071 Scum Replaced D1
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=83581 Scum Lynched D3
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83530 Townie Lynched D2
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=83286 Scum Won in Endgame
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=82166 Townie Killed N1
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82022 Townie Lynched in LYLO
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=82005 Townie Replaced D1
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=82026 Townie Lynched in LYLO
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81962 Scum Hammers himself D2
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=81816 Townie Replaced D2
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=81730 Town Tracker NK'd N2


So there are two games where he does lose as townie in LYLO. I'll do some more analysis based on post count in each game. A lot of his games are newbie games where he posts very little. I did a brief skim of the games where he is scum and nothing caught my eye yet but I'll re-read again.
you can click on the links in this post

from reading his scum games - I think he is very bad as scum and I feel his play as scum is maybe worse than this game?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:39 pm
by the worst
i'm like, probably not going to meta dive dsjstr

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:57 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
fair

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:22 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3494, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3489, Datisi wrote:that was not addressed to the worst but uhhh the existance of tw/s_s scumteam is also cool
i dont think tw/ss can be scumteam cuz would mean town would only have 1 PR
???

Aren’t you claiming bomb?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:26 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3499, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i meant tw/skitter
Um . . . that’s two?

How do you forget you’re a PR here?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:28 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3503, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3479, the worst wrote:
In post 3463, skitter30 wrote:im scum with u dats, don'tcha know?
Can you two recruit me?
on it
Bu I want to be scum with Dats. *pouts*

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:31 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3522, skitter30 wrote:ahhhhhhhh i kinda want to vote both dsjstr and pooky but i feel like it would be weird if they were scum together
I still lean more toward dsjstr but now I’m starting to doubt Pooky’s claim. Ugh.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:34 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3525, skitter30 wrote:also is it bad that i'm not really townreading ss anymore?
Pooky seems to be pushing him the hardest where as dsjstr insists he’s town. Not really sure what to make of that.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:36 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3529, skitter30 wrote:yeah that's what i'm settling on too
feel very good about town!dats
Agree.

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:44 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3548, Something_Smart wrote:I don't have any clue what your alignment is honestly, I keep going back and forth in my head

and
yes my play today makes a lot of sense as locktowned scum
. but that ignores the reasons I got locktowned in the first place.
??? Did you read this before you pressed “send”? :lol:

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:54 pm
by Raven Branwen
I’m coming around to thinking it may be a djstr/Pooky team but I have a bit of paranoia that it’s just too easy.

I know I’m town, Skitter is mech clear. TW is probably clear unless Skitter is NK’d. Dats is super obvtown. I dunno, I still thought Koba was really townie . . . so by PoE, that leaves djstr/Pooky.

Still prefer djstr. so I think I’ll keep my vote there.

I think it’s nice that he claims to be hard tr me but what about Dats? He should have cleared him as well.

@dsjstr, what is your current read on Dats? If you think I’m obvtown, shouldn’t you also be hard tr him as well now?

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:52 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3492, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:messed up quotes there,

my response is:


I am only slumslotting your slot in the event that tw dies in the night and skitter gets a 2nd visit confirmed
This is what is confusing me about your posting. I liked this answer for example
In post 3546, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm just curious btw
:twisted:
if you are scum - is there a chess game in the Scum PT between Koba and Bugspray ?
but then you make this comment. Are you tl me or shading my slot, I really can’t tell.