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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:00 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3538, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3535, Gloria Cleary wrote:So what did it for me was that something really did not sit right for me that she was scumreading Infinity for wanting to keep her out of the dance pairs but not Isis who had been doing it just as much. Then she tried to push me to pair with her and I couldn’t understand why brilliant scumhunter Jessie would be trying to get me to pair with the scummiest player in the game and Ydrasse wasn’t trying to influence the pairs beyond not wanting Flea in them. Only Jessie was pushing for Isis, where as Infinty was mindmelding with me on wanting her launched.
also why do i need both of us to be paired as a conspirator?

and how were we planning on not having gypyx eliminated?

like me/isis simply doesn't seem a reasonable pairing to me and i don't understand what you're evaluating here
Oh and Hopkirk also had Infinity, Flea as hardtown and wasn’t tr you, was scumreading Isis and correctly nailed 4/6 scum. You don’t ignore a player with reads that spot on either.

Why couldn’t you/Isis be a reasonable pairing? Because she lolpushed you out of the dance pairs and you somehow decided it somehow made logical sense for me to pair with her?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:05 am
by Isis
In post 2580, Hopkirk wrote:(Dunn/MT/Gyp/Skitter30/maybe Isis) POE
I favor Jessie dancing now tho

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:05 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3539, team rocket queen wrote:also i don't understand how you are treating me saying two conspirators in {flea, infinity, isis, pooky} as me townreading isis. i just think she is in less worlds than flea and pooky. and my most recent suggestion for the dance pairings was me/you/ydrasse/infinity
I think Pooky/Flea are very obviously town and I thought a lot about why Isis was pushing Ydrasse so hard and I think it was either to set her up for an eventual frame or paranoia us out of keeping her out of the dance pairs so that we can blame her for when presumably Infinity gets NK’d? Idk but something is definitely up with that and I think what Infinty said about it being a sincere read would fit that.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:08 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3542, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3537, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3535, Gloria Cleary wrote:So I read Menagerie where town!Jessie brilliantly solved Pooky!scum but in this game it somehow wasn’t obvious to her that he’s town in this one.
In post 3535, Gloria Cleary wrote:Then she tried to push me to pair with her and I couldn’t understand why brilliant scumhunter Jessie would be trying to get me to pair with the scummiest player in the game and Ydrasse wasn’t trying to influence the pairs beyond not wanting Flea in them.
so you think that i am a conspirator because you disagree with my reads and you think this should not be possible because i am supposed to be 'brilliant' according to you?
like have you found historically that you always agree with my reads? or that i've never scumread someone you thought was town? or that other players agree with my reads even when they are correct?

you use menagerie as an example and i was sure pooky was mafia based on a post they made

but everyone said they only nominated pooky because they were sheeping me

and in elimination phase almost everyone said they thought isis/pooky were town v. town all the way up until pooky flipped

so like

?
Who is scum Jessie? It’s not me. I hard tr Infinity, Pooky, Flea and my metadive on Ydrasse strongly aligns with Ydrasse!town.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:10 am
by team rocket queen
i don't understand the way anyone ever talks about me.

it is somehow 'jessie is brilliant' which somehow ignores all of the evidence

and at the same time, and she is wrong here! and thus she is a conspirator because she is wrong!

and never ever oh she could be right

which doesn't make sense if you actually think i am brilliant

or oh she could just be wrong

because she is wrong a lot

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:11 am
by team rocket queen
so it is just weaponizing something you said to describe me against me

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:12 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3544, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3537, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3535, Gloria Cleary wrote:So I read Menagerie where town!Jessie brilliantly solved Pooky!scum but in this game it somehow wasn’t obvious to her that he’s town in this one.
In post 3535, Gloria Cleary wrote:Then she tried to push me to pair with her and I couldn’t understand why brilliant scumhunter Jessie would be trying to get me to pair with the scummiest player in the game and Ydrasse wasn’t trying to influence the pairs beyond not wanting Flea in them.
so you think that i am a conspirator because you disagree with my reads and you think this should not be possible because i am supposed to be 'brilliant' according to you?
this all just hinges on so many separate assumptions that i don't understand

like you are assuming that

pooky is town and that you can't be wrong about pooky
and that i can only be wrong about pooky if i'm a conspirator
and that isis is a conspirator, and that i would think isis was the very most likely conspirator instead of one of the most likely conspirators if i was town?
I’m tr everyone but Isis and obviously one of them has to be wrong and based on your interactions with Isis, reads on Infinity/Isis not adding up, Ydrasse meta plus Isis pushing her so hard as a dance pair, you’re the only possibility left.

Yes, I don’t believe town!you would be wanting Isis over Infinity in the dance pairs.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:12 am
by team rocket queen
In post 3556, Gloria Cleary wrote:Yes, I don’t believe town!you would be wanting Isis over Infinity in the dance pairs.
my most recent proposition had infinity over isis

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:13 am
by team rocket queen
In post 3557, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3556, Gloria Cleary wrote:Yes, I don’t believe town!you would be wanting Isis over Infinity in the dance pairs.
my most recent proposition had infinity over isis
In post 3512, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3511, team rocket queen wrote:also see like, these seem much easier to figure out if i know there is a conspirator on the gypyx wagon at all,
which goes back to the original proposition of me/you/gloria/ydrasse

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:15 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3545, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3544, team rocket queen wrote:pooky is town and that you can't be wrong about pooky
and that i can only be wrong about pooky if i'm a conspirator
it turns out that i am wrong a lot. and i assume you are wrong sometimes too.
It also would make perfect sense for scum to have you among with Isis as their remaining deep wolves. Sure you are sometimes wrong but why would town!you want a slot trying to keep you out of the dance pairs in the pairs and scumread the other player who advocated for the same?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:15 am
by Isis
In post 3552, Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 3539, team rocket queen wrote:also i don't understand how you are treating me saying two conspirators in {flea, infinity, isis, pooky} as me townreading isis. i just think she is in less worlds than flea and pooky. and my most recent suggestion for the dance pairings was me/you/ydrasse/infinity
I think Pooky/Flea are very obviously town and I thought a lot about why Isis was pushing Ydrasse so hard and I think it was either to set her up for an eventual frame or paranoia us out of keeping her out of the dance pairs so that we can blame her for when presumably Infinity gets NK’d? Idk but something is definitely up with that and I think what Infinty said about it being a sincere read would fit that.
I want Ydrasse to dance because I townread her

Maybe if you have to devise extremely complicated explanations for my behavior for me to be scum, it means I'm not actually scum!?!?!

It's irritating how often I see all of you playing with the pieces you need to solve my slot correctly but then don't actually do it.

Like people trapped in a dungeon cell using a set of keys to try to scoop dirt out from the floor and try to burrow under the wall.

It's saddest for Pooky to be doing it.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:17 am
by Isis
In post 3554, team rocket queen wrote:it is somehow 'jessie is brilliant' which somehow ignores all of the evidence
fwiw I do think you're wrong a lot, my lobby summary post was meant to imply that.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:17 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3557, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3556, Gloria Cleary wrote:Yes, I don’t believe town!you would be wanting Isis over Infinity in the dance pairs.
my most recent proposition had infinity over isis
When did this happen? Link/quote me. Also tell me who Isis’ buddy is and why if it isn’t you.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:19 am
by team rocket queen
In post 3561, Isis wrote:
In post 3554, team rocket queen wrote:it is somehow 'jessie is brilliant' which somehow ignores all of the evidence
fwiw I do think you're wrong a lot, my lobby summary post was meant to imply that.
but i ~~~could~~~ be a conspirator because i am capable of anything as mafia or whatever,

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:19 am
by team rocket queen
In post 3562, Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 3557, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3556, Gloria Cleary wrote:Yes, I don’t believe town!you would be wanting Isis over Infinity in the dance pairs.
my most recent proposition had infinity over isis
When did this happen? Link/quote me. Also tell me who Isis’ buddy is and why if it isn’t you.
this:
In post 3512, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3511, team rocket queen wrote:also see like, these seem much easier to figure out if i know there is a conspirator on the gypyx wagon at all,
which goes back to the original proposition of me/you/gloria/ydrasse
said to infinity

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:20 am
by team rocket queen
isis's most likely co-conspirators are pooky/flea

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:20 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3560, Isis wrote:
In post 3552, Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 3539, team rocket queen wrote:also i don't understand how you are treating me saying two conspirators in {flea, infinity, isis, pooky} as me townreading isis. i just think she is in less worlds than flea and pooky. and my most recent suggestion for the dance pairings was me/you/ydrasse/infinity
I think Pooky/Flea are very obviously town and I thought a lot about why Isis was pushing Ydrasse so hard and I think it was either to set her up for an eventual frame or paranoia us out of keeping her out of the dance pairs so that we can blame her for when presumably Infinity gets NK’d? Idk but something is definitely up with that and I think what Infinty said about it being a sincere read would fit that.
I want Ydrasse to dance because I townread her

Maybe if you have to devise extremely complicated explanations for my behavior for me to be scum, it means I'm not actually scum!?!?!

It's irritating how often I see all of you playing with the pieces you need to solve my slot correctly but then don't actually do it.

Like people trapped in a dungeon cell using a set of keys to try to scoop dirt out from the floor and try to burrow under the wall.

It's saddest for Pooky to be doing it.
I feel really bad for Pooky that you’re trying to guilt him into tr you. I already explained my reasoning, plus I’m mindmelding with both Infinity and the dude who nailed 4/6 scum, so I must be on the right path,

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:22 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3563, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3561, Isis wrote:
In post 3554, team rocket queen wrote:it is somehow 'jessie is brilliant' which somehow ignores all of the evidence
fwiw I do think you're wrong a lot, my lobby summary post was meant to imply that.
but i ~~~could~~~ be a conspirator because i am capable of anything as mafia or whatever,
Was it Isis who made it a point of saying that you’re apparently really good at scum? I’m pretty sure it was her who said that.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:24 am
by team rocket queen
In post 3567, Gloria Cleary wrote:Was it Isis who made it a point of saying that you’re apparently really good at scum? I’m pretty sure it was her who said that.
yes that is what i was referencing there.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:24 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3512, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3511, team rocket queen wrote:also see like, these seem much easier to figure out if i know there is a conspirator on the gypyx wagon at all,
which goes back to the original proposition of me/you/gloria/ydrasse
So once I’m again back to, who is her buddy? Please tell me who it is if not you and why?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:24 am
by team rocket queen
In post 3568, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 3567, Gloria Cleary wrote:Was it Isis who made it a point of saying that you’re apparently really good at scum? I’m pretty sure it was her who said that.
yes that is what i was referencing there.
but also it isn't anymore true than you and pooky saying i am brilliant

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:26 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 3560, Isis wrote:Maybe if you have to devise extremely complicated explanations for my behavior for me to be scum, it means I'm not actually scum!?!?!
Mood.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:27 am
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3551, Isis wrote:
In post 2580, Hopkirk wrote:(Dunn/MT/Gyp/Skitter30/maybe Isis) POE
I favor Jessie dancing now tho
And you would have a problem with a me/Infinity/Ydrasse/Pooky or me/Infinty/Ydrasse/Flea pairing, why exactly?

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:27 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 3565, team rocket queen wrote:isis's most likely co-conspirators are pooky/flea
Care to elaborate? I already struggle reading your meanings so i'm not diving for it.

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:28 am
by team rocket queen
In post 3573, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 3565, team rocket queen wrote:isis's most likely co-conspirators are pooky/flea
Care to elaborate? I already struggle reading your meanings so i'm not diving for it.
you two make the most sense with the votes and neither of you are playing like town trying to solve the game