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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:54 pm
by Flea The Magician
Mental health dive AND fibro flare. Good times.
Painfog is real, so I'm going to be lacking.

I still have no idea why Hasc is voting me.
Consider this Intent then I guess? I should look at their ISO.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:17 pm
by Titus
Intent? They're at L minus 2

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:38 pm
by mastina
In post 3556, WindowsXP wrote:You basically just said my "playstyle is scummy". Literally just admit you think the NAI things are scummy. Because thats what you summed up there.
I mean--I did?
In post 3556, WindowsXP wrote: "Bad takes" but whats bad about them?
Everything, and I described specifically what they were, too. It was there in the post.
In post 3556, WindowsXP wrote:also ur PoE sucks and has just LHF ppl.
So? Have you played mafia in 2020? Across the whole site, the near-universal scum meta is for the scum to be almost or entirely in the low-hanging fruit pool, for the scum to almost or entirely be among the lurkers, for the scum to almost or entirely be among the lower-effort slots, for the scum to almost or entirely lack coordination and influence in the game.

Every actively-involved scum player is the exception to this general rule, that in 2020 scum are disproportionately lurksacks. "But the player is low-hanging fruit, the game can't be that easy!!!" has been an excuse used to let scum off the hook the entire time, and it will never cease to be wrong.

Scum are scum--it doesn't matter if the player is low-hanging fruit if they are just scum.

The logic of "but they're low-hanging fruit!!!" would've stopped an elimination on Bell, because Bell is low-hanging fruit as a player especially when scum.

So frankly: I don't give a damn about low-hanging fruit. Low-hanging fruit that is probably scum is probably scum.

I really want 11-0 to go live in League. 3400 gold is too expensive.
In post 3561, OutWorldER wrote:Pooky/Haschel actually fit together pretty fucking magnificently
I'd vote either happily here, honestly. The Haschel wagon is larger right now so that's where my vote is.

Bananas and Milk is a staple breakfast of my family. I should actually eat it soon.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:06 pm
by WindowsXP
hi at my familys. Also my kindle came in which is hype.

mastina. I am town binning u for now. I do not want to deal with u. Your playstyle and reading method is a bit flawed/anti town so like maybe u can take the hint and reeval. I used to have an issue where i would flame the whole PL for reading me badly. Here is a test of this.

I am giving people passes for now for lacking content over the break.

Now. I have been speculating balance - i thought "hmm 4 scum here perhaps bc my reads are all wack here?" Nah yeah like i was seeing 4 scum teams in my head. But nah like cause scum power increases when less ppl are alive and they basically get double kills in late game and potentially a sabo that mimics o2 or reactor that lets them win.
So 3 scum. Is my guess. Lmk what yall think


ower i want to go thru Socratic method with.u on ur read. I think ur approaching it wrong. When i rolled scum against u i took advantage of this approach. A seemingly scummy player i could pocket? Hell yeah.



For like reference ive played with many of you. My main is dkkoba. I thought i might reveal that now.

So
Anyways i agree with what BM pointed out. I think that's a strong counterpoint. But im also hesitant cause pooky aint afraid to throw partners under the bus if they're underperforming lol

Theres also a player i feel like might be being coached??? Like this is assuming pooky town. But like... they're posting at a higher level of analysis than i normally see.
But imma pursue this vote first VOTE: pooky
I need like 10 more words. Gonna fluff out the post a bit more. Need to stretch it so it makes it to 300 haha.

Ok prob last post of the night. Pls dont hammer HC until its near deadline or they do the exercise i asked them to(trustfalls)

I wanna see their thoughts

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:12 pm
by Flea The Magician
Someone mentioned they were at L-1. Oops!

Merry Christmas!/Happy Hanukkah/Grumpy Festivus/Blessed Solstice/Blessed Yule to all <3

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:45 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3578, WindowsXP wrote:But imma pursue this vote first VOTE: pooky
stop it koba

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:59 pm
by Haschel Cedricson
Hey I am currently at my parents' house for our Christmas Eve celebration (don't worry, since their house is also my work locale then I am not leaving my Covid bubble) and I don't have time to post much game-related but I swear to god if you fuckers eliminate me while I have family obligations and the prod timer is suspended I will not be a happy camper. Windows, I will get to your stuff as soon as is reasonably possible. Flea, I have already stated why you are scummy and I will be happy to reiterate once I have time. Anyway the wagon on me is a terrible one and SirCakez hasn't given any reasoning for tunneling on me as far as I can tell.

Now, I have to keep on talking and I gather that just copy-pasting stuff goes against the spirit of the task so instead I will tell a long rambling story in order to hit my word count requirement. If I end up getting mislimmed today then somebody will have to take up my task. I am telling you right now that it is imperative you all force a member of the scum team to take my task, because this task requires me doing something two nights in a row. Why am I saying this? I am saying this because I am already in the room in which I need to be in and my understanding based on the evidence we have seen so far suggests that if the doors to this room get locked then I will be trapped in the room instead of being unable to access it entire. Right I have to wrap this up because the prime rib is about to come out of the oven and oh look that's 300 words. Get back to you all soon.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:06 pm
by OutWorldER
[quote="In post 3578
ower i want to go thru Socratic method with.u on ur read. I think ur approaching wrong. When i rolled scum against u i took advantage of this approach. A seemingly scummy player i could pocket? Hell yeah.
[/quote]

you have 300 words to fill out. you could have maybe used some to fuckin elaborate on what you mean by "i'm approaching things wrong". I'm especially curious what you mean by the latter part because the way I've approached this game from an analysis perspective is completely different from what my previous games.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:44 pm
by mastina
In post 3578, WindowsXP wrote:Your playstyle and reading method is a bit flawed/anti town so like maybe u can take the hint and reeval.
Screenshot your reads right now versus my reads right now and say that to me postgame. :P

And by the way: minecraft is awesome.
In post 3581, Haschel Cedricson wrote:If I end up getting mislimmed today then somebody will have to take up my task.
Not gonna lie: while my current task is one that is suited to me, and it's the only task I have left, I actually do kinda want to take on the 300-words-in-a-post task because...I mean. It'd also be a task perfect for me. :P

Because, yaknow. I'm mastina; I make that many words per post without a restriction so it'd be neat for me to have it. :P

Alas, I have my current task which takes priority over it. :(

Oh and, monotony is something that can be rather cumbersome, but sometimes, the rewards are worth it.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:51 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
what's your favorite all black outfit?

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:03 pm
by mastina
In post 3583, mastina wrote:
In post 3578, WindowsXP wrote:Your playstyle and reading method is a bit flawed/anti town so like maybe u can take the hint and reeval.
Screenshot your reads right now versus my reads right now and say that to me postgame. :P
For the record, that'd be:

{Taly, Titus} <--Locktown

Sircakez (may be in need of promotion to locktown tho)
Reck
^Strong town

Outworlder
Windows XP
^Town

Battle Mage
Blitzo
^Weak town


DGB
^Nullish (if scum bussed, it was her; if scum have a deepscum, it's her; she's the highest chance of being scum outside of the poe)

Flea the Magician
^In the POE, so could be scum, but gut says below three are more scum

{Pooky, Haschel, MURDERCAT}
^Scum

So the challenge is to take a screenshot of your reads on today, December 24th (not some later time/phase), and see how accurate your reads are compared to this list above in the postgame.

I like my odds. :P

Speaking of which, Star Wars 4-6 and Legacy canon > literally all other Star Wars material.
Tho I will say lightsaber duels really leveled up in the prequels in terms of choreography.
Phantom Menace's Duel of the Fates remains the best music in all of Star Wars history. (Even the Imperial March places second.)
That said, I feel like the best lightsaber duel for choreography would be somewhere between the flashiness of the prequels and the "dull old men fighting" of the original trilogy. If lightsaber fights were treated like actual fencing duels (so no turning backs on opponents, no spinning, no twirling the blade unnecessarily, no summersaults, no backflips, traits of the prequel fights), but at the actual speed of a fencing duel (no swinging once a minute, locking blades for 20 seconds, backing off, and swinging again 20 seconds later, traits of the original trilogy fights), I feel like that would be the best. I get there's justifications for being fancy both in-universe (powers!) and out-of-universe (it looks cooler and is more cinematic), but it'd be dope to see a fight with speed, yet precision, accuracy, and attention to realism and real-life techniques.

But then again, my sister is a fencer (the style of fencing where they treat it as if it were real swords, too, i.e., "If you're slashed on the arm, it's lethal; if you're stabbed in the chest, it doesn't matter if you stabbed your opponent in the chest one second sooner, you're still both death so you still both lose", rather than the Olympic style of fencing that is "Take advantage of it not being real swords and connecting with your opponent so much as one millisecond sooner means you win"). She's an influence on me.

I also like kenjustsu-style martial arts.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:20 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 3585, mastina wrote:Speaking of which, Star Wars 4-6 and Legacy canon > literally all other Star Wars material.
Tho I will say lightsaber duels really leveled up in the prequels in terms of choreography.
Phantom Menace's Duel of the Fates remains the best music in all of Star Wars history. (Even the Imperial March places second.)
That said, I feel like the best lightsaber duel for choreography would be somewhere between the flashiness of the prequels and the "dull old men fighting" of the original trilogy. If lightsaber fights were treated like actual fencing duels (so no turning backs on opponents, no spinning, no twirling the blade unnecessarily, no summersaults, no backflips, traits of the prequel fights), but at the actual speed of a fencing duel (no swinging once a minute, locking blades for 20 seconds, backing off, and swinging again 20 seconds later, traits of the original trilogy fights), I feel like that would be the best. I get there's justifications for being fancy both in-universe (powers!) and out-of-universe (it looks cooler and is more cinematic), but it'd be dope to see a fight with speed, yet precision, accuracy, and attention to realism and real-life techniques.

But then again, my sister is a fencer (the style of fencing where they treat it as if it were real swords, too, i.e., "If you're slashed on the arm, it's lethal; if you're stabbed in the chest, it doesn't matter if you stabbed your opponent in the chest one second sooner, you're still both death so you still both lose", rather than the Olympic style of fencing that is "Take advantage of it not being real swords and connecting with your opponent so much as one millisecond sooner means you win"). She's an influence on me.

I also like kenjustsu-style martial arts.
why the fuck are you posting this

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:20 pm
by xRECKONERx
start a blog

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:24 pm
by OutWorldER
PR's, probably.

reck can you elaborate on your ?

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:29 pm
by mastina
In post 3584, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what's your favorite all black outfit?
I'm wearing it right now: black fingerless gloves, my black ring (it's a bit of a mismatch in size tho--on my finger, it's loose enough that it'd fall off if not for my gloves keeping it in; if I put it on top of my glove, it's a bit of a tight fit, almost impossible to get off and can even somewhat restrict circulation), a black warmup-tshirt (dunno what it's called, it's the type of undershirt you'd wear when doing track underneath of your official clothes to help stay warm, it's a sportsy thing that is designed to extract sweat and also keep you warm so it's useful in both summer and winter), which in this case happens to be long enough to act almost like a skirt, and short short black warmup pants (dunno what it's called, it's the pants-equivalent of the undershirt, sportsy track wear that you wear underneath your track clothes to help stay warm; they are sometimes mistaken for being boxers even tho I wear them as shorts with me having underwear underneath of them).

Were I to wear another layer on top of that, it technically wouldn't be ALL black, unless I were to go with black sweatpants and a black hoodie (which I do own, and still love!). It'd be mostly black or close-to-black, but my warmup-jacket (dunno what it's called, it's a sportsy jacket that you'd wear over your track clothes while warming up) does have red patches on it over the torso area. I'd also be wearing warmup pants (dunno what it's called, it's a sportsy pants that you'd wear over your track clothes while warming up), the pants equivalent.

I started wearing them during high school once I started doing track and cross-country, but found that they were quite convenient to wear at all times. They're pretty unisex, so you can wear them without broadcasting a gender, they tend to be fairly tight in the areas I like to keep tight, but loose in the areas I want to be loose, keeping me soft and comfortable yet also allowing me to disguise my features as to be more androgynous. Plus, you can add/subtract the clothing at will depending on needs. Too cold? Throw on the pants or the jacket. Still cold? Add the other. Too hot? Remove one. Still too hot? Remove the other.

Also, the warmup pants have deep pockets, and the warmup jacket has zipper-sealed deep pockets, too. (Not to mention, the warmup jacket has a zipper down the middle so you can split it in half to air things up and more easily remove; the warmup pants have zippers on the leggings, which while not running all the way up, allow you to air things up and in theory, take them off while wearing shoes.)

Before I discovered this style of clothing, I wore exclusively sweatpants and then 2-3 layers of: t-shirt, sweatshirt, hoodie. All black. It accomplished similar. Hoodie for protection against the rain, zipper down the middle for easy removal, hoodie kept me warm, could shed layers if needed if I got too warm, but often, surprisingly, wasn't because my tolerance to heat is naturally high due to me being a stick.

Fun fact, my original character, superhero name Red Hood Rider, actually takes inspiration from both halves of this. Her default form has the hoodie, but one of her powerup-forms has the warmup jacket and warmup shorts. The design of her hoodie is actually based on my memory of my first hoodie, which I had when I was practicing soccer (since for the first 14ish years of my life I played soccer every year and in fact my first job was as a soccer referee).

I also was bullied on my first soccer team, teased with 'Little Red Riding Hood', but me being autistic, I didn't understand that I was being bullied because I didn't actually understand that the nickname was meant to be malicious. However, I might've known on at least some level, since I did talk to my mom about it, who
did
recognize the bullying for being what it was and next year transferred me to a much better team. (Sadly, while the team I moved to was better, it also fell apart sooner and when it did, that was the end of me playing soccer since I couldn't get onto another team.)

But later in my life, I now would take pride in a name like that. They meant it as an insult, but it'd be a compliment to me. (Sadly, I believe my mom either sold or gave away that original hoodie when I had my growth spurt, since it was not designed for someone who was 6'2". I could still fit in it as a stick, but it'd be exposing my belly due to being too short. Which, in adulthood, I wouldn't mind showing off some skin, but as a child who got cold, my mom likely recognized I needed something more suitable for my size.)

Oh and floods are really cool. "Stocker Lake" is what we named the fields when they flooded.

I almost forgot this btw: I have black hairties, too! While I may not need them, they're part of my outfit.
Also, my digital wristwatches have always had black as their main or only color.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:31 pm
by mastina
In post 3586, xRECKONERx wrote:why the fuck are you posting this
It's my way of handling my posting restriction.
In post 3587, xRECKONERx wrote:start a blog
About that... :P
(See sig. I did.)

Oh and speaking of which, cats are cute.

I love to see the antics of pets on streams. <3

Witchy familiars are actually legit a real thing btw.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:35 pm
by Thestatusquo
ManWithNoName replaces Taly, who requested replacement.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:49 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 3564, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 3561, OutWorldER wrote:I think Pooky's been setting this up. Assuming Reck is green (I think he is at this point), I think, after the no-elim ploy failed, Pooky wanted to flip Reck, use the misflip to be like "oops, guess HC is also town", then use that to coast by with his buddies for the remainder. I think he's setup so if that he or Hasch goes down the other has the position to be TR'd due to Pooky pushing Haschel early (but not actually voting him) combined with Haschel being against Pooky's position early.
i don't think pooky as scum thinks this far ahead tbh
i in general think that people crafting exotic and wild conspiracy theories of scum plotting 4D chess moves 6 days ahead of time are just like, more likely to be bullshit than not

i find it more likely scum play reactive than proactive, like, way more likely. so any theory of someone being scum that relies on someone planning out multiple days of events ahead of time is just... farfetched to me.

doesn't mean pooky isn't scum, just means i don't buy that pooky had this grand plan to clear haschel by flipping me as town

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:50 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
@Koba

just copy her readslist and put me in the "locktown" section

I guarantee your readslist will be better than hers.

easiest win of your life

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:55 pm
by Thestatusquo
VoteCount 3.14


Haschel Cedricson [6]
Titus Pookythemagicalbear sircakez Mastina MURDERCAT Battle Mage
Battle Mage [2]
DrippingGoofball xRECKONERx
Pookythemagicalbear [2]
OutworldER WidowsXP
Flea the Magician [1]
Haschel Cedricson

Not Voting [3]

Blitzo, Flea The Magician, ManWithNoName

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-12-29 17:05:20)

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:58 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3561, OutWorldER wrote:Pooky/Haschel actually fit together pretty fucking magnificently

Pooky has only voted HC once. Today, when he's about to go down. Every other time Pooky has been going after Reck instead.

I think Pooky's been setting this up. Assuming Reck is green (I think he is at this point), I think, after the no-elim ploy failed, Pooky wanted to flip Reck, use the misflip to be like "oops, guess HC is also town", then use that to coast by with his buddies for the remainder. I think he's setup so if that he or Hasch goes down the other has the position to be TR'd due to Pooky pushing Haschel early (but not actually voting him) combined with Haschel being against Pooky's position early.
stop trolling pls

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:03 pm
by OutWorldER
In post 3592, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 3564, xRECKONERx wrote:*Quote here*
see, the part where I disagree is that I don't think anything I described had to be planned out too far ahead. I think that could definitely be D1 thing that they ran with into later days. natural progression off each other's play.

I also definitely don't think that something like this could be called 4d chess, to me I'd call that simple scum strategy.

but then again my only scum-game on this site was with Flavor Leaf who does play somewhat proactive so maybe I'm biased when I'm thinking about scum want to do.

either way I think Pooky's play is just way too reminiscent to Stuff I'm Listening To regardless.

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:05 pm
by OutWorldER
also lmao posting immediately after reck voices disapproval regarding my theory when you responded to posts made afterwards like

you really are just open wolfing huh

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:16 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 3596, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 3592, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 3564, xRECKONERx wrote:*Quote here*
see, the part where I disagree is that I don't think anything I described had to be planned out too far ahead. I think that could definitely be D1 thing that they ran with into later days. natural progression off each other's play.

I also definitely don't think that something like this could be called 4d chess, to me I'd call that simple scum strategy.

but then again my only scum-game on this site was with Flavor Leaf who does play somewhat proactive so maybe I'm biased when I'm thinking about scum want to do.

either way I think Pooky's play is just way too reminiscent to Stuff I'm Listening To regardless.
i mean that's fair and your experiences are valid

*shrug*

i just think in my like 11-12 years on the site, i've seen scum think that far ahead like... once? twice?

i think instead i've seen 98% of all games be "scum go for the most viable, safest option"

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:49 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3597, OutWorldER wrote:also lmao posting immediately after reck voices disapproval regarding my theory when you responded to posts made afterwards like

you really are just open wolfing huh

i honestly didnt even read your post until reck responded to it