Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[notscience]

Oh I’m dumb

Fine yes just their interaction

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh also, importantly...

NEWSFLASH: We dun gambitted. Artemiana is not confirmed by our role.* We are not exempt from being debuffed by scum.

* we feel that her reaction to our gambit is hella town, though, and we're HARD hard townreading her, hi lexirage~

Laterz, gotta go do work and stuff and stuff.

You're wrong. Please stop doing this to get your way on townreads.

That wasn't about getting our way.

It sure feels like it.

That's part of why it was so hard to get this scum flip as "confirmed town" was fighting against it.

It sure feels like it.

That's part of why it was so hard to get this scum flip as "confirmed town" was fighting against it.

Not this specific flip.

Artemianis was opposed to Flea's wagon, not Anya's.

This is not a TVT IMO.

And I see what you mean. Titus is way more confident than she should be about this flip being scum in wake of it. Like she knows it will and is setting it up a bit.

Mmmmm

[Something_Smart]

I thought you were softing a pgo in addition to what you had

Ah yes, PGO IC is a fun and balanced role.

[Something_Smart]

I very much doubt that scum would've been scared off by my softing PGO

...wouldn't the whole point of softing PGO as IC be to keep scum off of you?

[Something_Smart]

Time to discuss pros and cons of mass flavorclaim here, now that we have reasons to believe this guilty isn't actually anything of the sort.

Are there pros?

[NDMath]

Yesterday's flip looks super good for lld and sigmund.
I believe that those are my only reads that actually changed from the flip but still need to look at farkran again.

You should have held onto that guilty for a little longer. What do we think about NDMath assuming Titus flips scum?

What is this referring to?
(To be fair am doing that now with arte's claim)


Some of the morph/bingle mech talk is going over my head which is abnormal for me, just gonna not worry about it.

[Guillotina]

I choose a person with my active skill and am told if we share an alignment.

Not sure how much further I can go without stating ver batum

Okay. The wording of that is odd. Why would it say "compares to your own alignment" instead of "tells you their alignment"?

I'm confused. Help me square this circle.

Girl. Have you heard of parity cop variations? She is claiming that Titus does that share the same alignment as her.

[Guillotina]

I choose a person with my active skill and am told if we share an alignment.

Not sure how much further I can go without stating ver batum

Okay. The wording of that is odd. Why would it say "compares to your own alignment" instead of "tells you their alignment"?

I'm confused. Help me square this circle.

Girl. Have you heard of parity cop variations? She is claiming that Titus does that share the same alignment as her.

Does not*

[Thestatusquo]

Nope that is not what is going on here. Please read more.

[Guillotina]

PI also have a goal to sort Shea/G. Right now, I favor G scum trying to pit me and Shea against each other.

Titus, explain how did i try to pit you against Shea?

[Dunnstral]

I don't like the feeling that we're being herded down the turbolim tunnel here.

Something feels VERY wrong and our hives are out in full force.

I think we should definitely elim Titus today, but I'd like for the day to play out more before rushing into the elim

[Dunnstral]

Anya, Titus, White Fire were the 3 who were voting for the doppelganger the other day, right?

[Thestatusquo]

I don't like the feeling that we're being herded down the turbolim tunnel here.

Something feels VERY wrong and our hives are out in full force.

I think we should definitely elim Titus today, but I'd like for the day to play out more before rushing into the elim

I'm not loving this post. I find scum often say things like this to try to take a voice of reason stance in the thread. Who is rushing this day? Why do you feel the need to caution against it? What does "play out" mean in this context. What more information are you hoping to gather here specifically?

Please put these things into more specific terms because all of this kind of reads like vague platitudes to me that does nothing to advance the game state.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't like the feeling that we're being herded down the turbolim tunnel here.

Something feels VERY wrong and our hives are out in full force.

I think we should definitely elim Titus today, but I'd like for the day to play out more before rushing into the elim

I'm of the same mind that we have to.

RN I don't like Chara or Farkan after the Anya flip, I'm concerned about Morph, and I'm not feeling Murdercat's drop off either.

How are you on those slots?

[Guillotina]

It's a straight cop guilty.

I'm a hexer.

My innate ability allows me to absorb SP and my one ability allows me to compare an alignment of another to my own with the cost of 3 SP

I choose a person with my active skill and am told if we share an alignment.

Not sure how much further I can go without stating ver batum

Okay. The wording of that is odd. Why would it say "compares to your own alignment" instead of "tells you their alignment"?

I'm confused. Help me square this circle.

My active ability is a multitarget move, one of the targets being myself

I can't self target. I wish I could, would have made the game easier which is why I need rocks

First you claimed that you could self target to compare your alignment with your target’s and now you say that you cant? Yah ok.

VOTE: Artemia

[Something_Smart]

I find scum often say things like this to try to take a voice of reason stance in the thread.

I mean so do town?

[Thestatusquo]

Not nearly as much.

[Guillotina]

So you're telling me that you still townread a slot that

A) Claimed to target itself and got a different result thus scum

Then

B) Claimed to target the dead guy

And

Conveniently has a soft CC role to my own.

Yes, 100%.

That's what is so frustrating.

I think this entire role result is null and void and that both your reaction and her insistence are town.

Welcome to morph.

what??????

[Ircher]

@G, Your reasoning for your scumreads is all people who have disagreed/had conflict with you on some level.

This is a lot of words for you to basically state that you scum read Guillotina for his play style. While I agree that it would be nice if Guillotina didn't make everything revolve around himself, that isn't the case, and you should adjust your reads accordingly. I find this especially troubling since you have recently played with town Guillotina.

What? Toog's in the game?

This reads fake. I don't believe that Titus would miss Toogeloo's claim unless she hadn't read that far, but she has given the impression she is up to date on the thread.

Townguillotina is much more omgussy that scumguillotina. ScumG has a better sense of when to back off

This is good to know. Adding to my ISO for reference.

@Flea - you don't have to change how you post, but letting you know your post formatting is still really hard to interact with on mobile.

(I kind of agree with this. I know I do quote walls too, but I think the spoilers actually make things harder to read/work with. Generally, the way I do notes on my phone is I highlight and quote the relevant part. I then return to the page using the back arrow and refresh, but this closes the spoilers, so I have to jump back up. If it is one long post, I don't have to move as far, and it's easier to keep track of where I am in the post.)

Something_Smart, Toogeloo, notscience, NDMath, Lady Lambdadelta, morph the cat, Not_Mafia

Exactly 3 scumbags are on this list.

Why did you think there were exactly three scum on this list? Do you still think that?

If I took a guess, I'd probably go with NDMath, notscience, and Not_Mafia here as the scum.

what was your anya vote based off of, if you explained it I missed it.

(Referring to Titus's 944.) This is actually a good question because my impression was that the Anya vote was an RVS vote that just never got changed.

This post is a cop out. There's "I don't like meta as a reason to lock town or lock someone" and then theres "actively ignoring information you have"

(Referring to Titus's 952.) Yeah, I agree with this; Titus's statement just seems very weird and convenient. Also, she has never struck me in the past as someone who didn't really care for meta, but maybe I just didn't pay enough attention.

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How do you highlight text from different paragraphs on mobile though. Otherwise i will be warned for spamming the place with multiple small text?

I admit, it takes some effort, but basically, you highlight the first relevant section and quote it. Next, paste it into your notes app or whatever (you are using one, right?). Now, you can make your comments abiut this first sentence or paragraph or whatever. Then, when you reach the next pertinent part, you highlight and quote it again. Repeat as necessary. The first few times might be a hassle, but you get used to it pretty quick.
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With regards to Arte's claim, I don't think it fully adds up. I also think Titus's play has a good chance of being scum, so I am currently pretty confident there is at least one scum between the two of them.

[Ircher]

Also, I agree that the self target --> can't self target backtrack looked pretty bad aside from the other claim issues.

[Something_Smart]

Not nearly as much.

Not necessarily; I know that I do it about the same as both alignments. (Probably more as town, just because I generally post a little more on average as town.)

But, I recall Dunn having a fairly aggressive scumgame (though it's been a long time since I've played against it), so he may not see it the same way I do.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Titus

I HAVE A GUILTY ON TITUS

RIP.

VOTE: titus

VOTE: titus very fine with this too, i was sring her already

@artemiana do you have an innate attack ability too?

VOTE: TITUS

Get wrecked! LMAO!!!

Actually UNVOTE: Titus

So we dont speed yeet

Of these I think Fark and G are the worst, but honestly I think scum is more likely to just sit back and let town do their dirty work if this IS TvT.

Do I? This is yet gonna make me look even worse. I still think Titus is scum and I think Artemia is scum, how about that?

This reminds me of a game I faked a red check on a scum partner, which later I retracted and both of us got townread for it. Except Artemia didn't retract it, instead Morph The Cat is "town clearing" them both. Like I'm going nuts over this cause in my very last game where I randed scum with Ircher, Flea and Enchant, with perform the best scum theater where we push, suspected and actually got two "day vigged" and yeeted and we won that game, cause what scum would do that? And Cabd seems to be the kind of player who like me comes up with crazy gambits to twists everyone's minds to get townread because it's too insane to come from scum.

@Cabd, how do you townread Titus and Artemia again? Explain it to me like I'm a five year old.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Titus

I HAVE A GUILTY ON TITUS

RIP.

VOTE: titus

VOTE: titus very fine with this too, i was sring her already

@artemiana do you have an innate attack ability too?

VOTE: TITUS

Get wrecked! LMAO!!!

Actually UNVOTE: Titus

So we dont speed yeet

Of these I think Fark and G are the worst, but honestly I think scum is more likely to just sit back and let town do their dirty work if this IS TvT.

Do I? This is yet gonna make me look even worse. I still think Titus is scum and I think Artemia is scum, how about that?

This reminds me of a game I faked a red check on a scum partner, which later I retracted and both of us got townread for it. Except Artemia didn't retract it, instead Morph The Cat is "town clearing" them both. Like I'm going nuts over this cause in my very last game where

I randed scum with Ircher, Flea and Enchant, we perform the best scum theater where we push, suspected each other and actually got two of us "day vigged" and yeeted and we won that game, cause what scum would do that?

And Cabd seems to be the kind of player who like me comes up with crazy gambits to twists everyone's minds to get townread because it's too insane to come from scum.

@Cabd, how do you townread Titus and Artemia again? Explain it to me like I'm a five year old.

Correction

[Guillotina]

I have reason to believe that Titus had TMI on Sigmund if he is actually town and Anya being scum.

[Thestatusquo]

Not nearly as much.

Not necessarily; I know that I do it about the same as both alignments. (Probably more as town, just because I generally post a little more on average as town.)

But, I recall Dunn having a fairly aggressive scumgame (though it's been a long time since I've played against it), so he may not see it the same way I do.

I just fundamentally don't agree that town has to manufacture caution for imaginary bogey men rather than actually talking about the game as much as Scum does.

That's kind of like the whole point of the game.