Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

[mastina]

How come scum got two shots? Or is one something like a poisoner?

I’m just wondering how that goes with the normal-sequence design philosophy that this game purportedly was using

Yeah there's absolutely zero ways for scum to have a multikill in Normals, when this game did have what could literally only be a scum nightkill.

Either Jingle had a critical fail of research when looking into Normals given that there is no allowed scum role that would allow them to get two kills, or he diverged from the Normal roles when designing the scumteam's roles.

Either way I gotta admit I'm a bit disappointed--Jingle could've balanced the commute IC + weak hider combo without giving the scum a non-Normal role (meaning that if he did give scum a killing role that makes it not Normal, it was a poor design choice); Jingle should know that killing roles for scum are not Normal so if he thought "oh a vig is normal so scum having a 1x vig is Normal" then he had a critical research failure.

Basically, there's 100% a scum killing role of some sort, which is 100% not Normal, which is disappointing because the town roles aren't such that Jingle would NEED to diverge from Normal roles on the scumteam to balance them. Thus the disappointment in Jingle having done so.

[House]

Oh and Titus and House openly PR hunting in thread and exposing N_M as a hider for some reason? Where the fuck is the town motivation in that?

A good question!

One which I am tempted, very oh so much tempted, to back with a vote.

You need to read me as mastin2, because you're missing all the markers as mastina.

[House]

How come scum got two shots? Or is one something like a poisoner?

I’m just wondering how that goes with the normal-sequence design philosophy that this game purportedly was using

Yeah there's absolutely zero ways for scum to have a multikill in Normals, when this game did have what could literally only be a scum nightkill.

Either Jingle had a critical fail of research when looking into Normals given that there is no allowed scum role that would allow them to get two kills, or he diverged from the Normal roles when designing the scumteam's roles.

Either way I gotta admit I'm a bit disappointed--Jingle could've balanced the commute IC + weak hider combo without giving the scum a non-Normal role (meaning that if he did give scum a killing role that makes it not Normal, it was a poor design choice); Jingle should know that killing roles for scum are not Normal so if he thought "oh a vig is normal so scum having a 1x vig is Normal" then he had a critical research failure.

Basically, there's 100% a scum killing role of some sort, which is 100% not Normal, which is disappointing because the town roles aren't such that Jingle would NEED to diverge from Normal roles on the scumteam to balance them. Thus the disappointment in Jingle having done so.

Not to mention, scum got to choose their own roles & duplicates were expressly allowed, so there may be another 2nd kill tonight.

[Moongrass]

Maybe the IC self destructs at mylo? Lol

[mastina]

I’ve wanted Titus dead since day 2.
When will it happen?

Honestly.

If nsg gave her blessing, I'd just #yolovote Titus right now.

Because yes.

I do as a matter of fact think it's Titus+House right now.

I owe the game due diligence but if both the treestumps were on the same page as me, I'd just be down to instavote, caution be damned.

[House]

Maybe the IC self destructs at mylo? Lol

Between this and trying to convince people scum "forgot" to nk on d3, your muddying of the waters is really keeping me sus.

[Moongrass]

It's a joke hence the Lol. It's actually not a bad idea for a game.

[House]

It's a joke hence the Lol. It's actually not a bad idea for a game.

Not much of one. Their role was revealed upon flip.

[Moongrass]

Not much of an idea or not much of a joke?

[House]

Not much of an idea or not much of a joke?

Uh, correct.

[Moongrass]

Ouch.

[House]

I mean, kinda bastard to have hidden mechanics, which would be the only way it would be an effective regulator.

[Moongrass]

I've got a dream, which I'm happy to discuss post game.

[House]

I've got a dream, which I'm happy to discuss post game.

It's fine to have a dream, but you have to wake up to pursue it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Moon’s posting this day phase feels pretty based I think

[Mia and Maya Fey]

But town!Mia+Maya wouldn’t know YOU’RE town
like, bruh

Think about it Gamma.

Coming into toDay, the scum team had to be in Titus, Moon, Feys, and me.

I'm obviously not going to scumread myself. Right?
I've been hard townreading Titus. Right?

Who are my scumreads, by default?

You’re trying to call Feys scum for not trying to work with you, but what incentive exists for town!them to do so when they don’t think you’re town?

If they were town, they'd see I have no logical alternative to my reads.

Seriously, get yourself unstuck would you?

Why should I think you’re town > moon and especially Titus when you keep trying to push me as buddies with moon? I would expect town!you to actually consider how beyond absurd that is.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

But town!Mia+Maya wouldn’t know YOU’RE town
like, bruh

Think about it Gamma.

Coming into toDay, the scum team had to be in Titus, Moon, Feys, and me.

I'm obviously not going to scumread myself. Right?
I've been hard townreading Titus. Right?

Who are my scumreads, by default?

You’re trying to call Feys scum for not trying to work with you, but what incentive exists for town!them to do so when they don’t think you’re town?

If they were town, they'd see I have no logical alternative to my reads.

Seriously, get yourself unstuck would you?

Sure, but what motive do they have to convince you otherwise on Titus, when they themselves TR Titus?

All the more reason for them to see why I can't possibly consider anyone else scum but them!

You aren’t going to convince me I’m scum when I know otherwise. I know we’re town and that obviously must mean between you, moon and Titus, one is town and Titus currently looks the best to me.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I've been hard townreading Titus since mid-Day 2.

It makes sense for scum!Feys to now townread her as well and claim the team is me and their buddy but push me "In case they're wrong on Moon".

Okay, now you’re badly misrepping me. I had a tr on her BEFORE you did, so now you’re literally rewriting history. Want me to dig up those posts or are you still going to push that misrep?

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Well house, I'm town so from my PoV there's 2/3 scum and I don't like losing. So if you're town too then you either have a bad read on Titus or you're scum.

You should've told Mia to say that.

Would've been more believable.

I know you have a bad read on me and you’re insisting moon and me are the scumteam. How does town!you read our interactions and seriously think we’re buddies?

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Norwegian how do you feel about the hydra?

My PoE remains exactly the same.
Hydra is a townread.
Some scummy slots pushing an mislim on Cyrus yesterday did nothing if cement the reads i already had.

I still think Titus is the most likely to be town but moon is sounds better today then she has all game. House just continues to insist I’m scum with moon when anyone looking through our interactions this entire game can see how ridiculous that is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Or how about House. As all his posts feel agenda based so far. And they’re much more dangerous since they always try to control the narrative.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Feys why do you townread Titus?

I’m actually unsure now but only because I think I might possibly have been wrong about you and both of you can’t be town here but I don’t want to miselim and get it wrong. I tr House the least rn. He’s done nothing since the day started but push us as buddies with you and won’t even reevaluate that our interactions don’t make sense as buddies.

And I would expect town!him to look at our interactions and realize they don’t make sense as buddies but every single time I tell him that, instead of actually reading through those interactions and realizing what I’m saying makes sense, he just ignores it.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

Or how about House. As all his posts feel agenda based so far. And they’re much more dangerous since they always try to control the narrative.

I feel House looks the worst here. House has me and moon as the scumteam and isn’t willing to re-evaluate that. In melo, no one should be that sure. It’s of course possible I could be wrong but House is the only one who isn’t willing to reconsider that read.

[House]

Or how about House. As all his posts feel agenda based so far. And they’re much more dangerous since they always try to control the narrative.

Idgaf. Do what you want.

[Mia and Maya Fey]

I've been hard townreading Titus since mid-Day 2.

It makes sense for scum!Feys to now townread her as well and claim the team is me and their buddy but push me "In case they're wrong on Moon".

This post is particularly bad. House knows damn well that the exact opposite of this is true. And anyone who doubts this can literally read my d2 posts. When someone tries to rewrite history that’s usually scum indicative.