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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:58 am
by Ythan
Bunny, then why are you focusing on me?
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:59 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
Bunny: I refuse to believe anyone is this stupid.
The goddesses of Hyrule are masons, allignment confirmed.
The Sages of Hyrule are neighbors, not allignment confirmed.
Both have a QT, and function similarly, but masons know they can trust eachother, while Neighbors can't take that at face value (as seen by substrike).
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:03 am
by Ythan
As seen even earlier by a suspiciously specific mod confirmation of masons only.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:13 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
That too Ythan xD
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:39 am
by Beefster
DTMaster wrote:You're left with: You agree with me. But you think I'm scum. Like wut?
It can happen.
DTMaster wrote:After I debunked your arguments (ie. the redirection argument, and that BE was the day killer) by posting mod confirmed information and wiki role information you are left with actually no case outside of that.
True.
DTMaster wrote:Scum players dislike cases made on them and sometimes when it happens it can strike a nerve they go and retaliate. You're not being town. I'm asking you to produce a case. You're going I DONT NEED TO BECAUSE I QUESTION OTHER PEOPLE SO YOUR ASKING IS INVALID is not a town response.
If you actually cared about the case on me you'd attack me. I shouldn't need to ask you to attack me, nor should I need to direct your actions so that you remove my vote to see if a day shift is occuring. But oh look, I'm doing that now. Herp derp.
I was waiting for a vote I disagreed with or a volunteer. You pointed out a good reason for me to roll attack you, and while I agree with the vote, it was basically a volunteering moment.
I haven't really objected to many cases on me. They're wrong, of course, but logical.
DTMaster wrote:Nor does it look like you care about your case against me. Especially when you changed to Vezok and BL wagons, you don't even advance your attack on me at the same time. I have a gut read on BL earlier (based on her trying to think of alternative points of view during the Aikage wagons) that read as town. Vezok is plain bad scum from my reads. I'd prefer Vezok over BL in this wagon, and I may oppose the BL wagon. I need to reread BL, but the way things are I dislike your entire play today.
I think I might be wrong about my original accusation. The vote at the beginning of today was only temporary, following the previous day's arguments until I had time to think it out. Now that I have, I realize that I made a mistake.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:43 am
by Le Cupcake
Yeah, we've been rather apathetic to this game. Does not help that my other head hasn't read at all.
If one of you has a revive ability, reviving nikanor would be perfect. That way I wouldn't be all alone with only dram to talk to in my QT
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:45 am
by Le Cupcake
And DGB, did you forget about the analysis? Or are you scum and require a shot from me again...
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:48 am
by Chronopie
VOTE: Bunnylover I know I said Null-Scummy yesterday, but that he's continuing to display his ignorance on the mason/neighbour issue justifies a vote. I still wouldn't mind seeing Vezo hang either.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:54 am
by Beefster
@bunny: think about it. If the goddesses are not alignment-confirmed, why aren't they attacking each other? Your argument really doesn't hold water.
Consider the following:
-A group of 3 masons are, for some strange reason, NOT alignment confirmed.
-One of them is scum, 2 are town. One of the townies dies later.
-The scum will probably attack the townie at some point.
-The townie will attack the scum if he thinks he is scum.
Say our masonry is as such. (WHICH IT ISN'T) Considering Cupcake's play, LLD would be attacking Cupcake right now, (rather than just chastising, which I could see happening in reality) regardless of her actual alignment. Considering the fact that they
are mod alignment-confirmed and Nikanor flipped Din, why are you still attacking LLD?
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:56 am
by Beefster
Chronopie wrote:VOTE: Bunnylover I know I said Null-Scummy yesterday, but that he's continuing to display his ignorance on the mason/neighbour issue justifies a vote. I still wouldn't mind seeing Vezo hang either.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with changing your mind over time.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:00 am
by Chronopie
How many scum do we think are left out of the 13 living players?
I'm guessing Orange/Twinrova-SK is eliminated. (Finally, that was a headache in itself.)
And maybe 3 each Poe and Boss.
so that's 7:3:3 in my estimations.
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LLD
Cupcake
Chrono
*Impa*
DTM
Beefster
Ythan
AKR
Mothrax (?)
DGB (?)
ABR (?)
Scum* (No distinction for sides)
Vezo
Zwet
Bunny
ABR (?)
DGB (?)
Mothrax (?)
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:06 am
by Le Cupcake
Anyone wanna find the list of claims for me? I can't find them.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:10 am
by mothrax
Bunny though he/she is at L-1 is town. Rage and the fact that if bunny doesnt understand something as town, bunny asks. I don't consider bunny skilled enough to play against meta, so my conditional meta fails argument is not applicable.
DGB is scum guys: she provided VCA for two days ago but never followed up. Other than that she has been hardcore sheeping/lurking.
Vote DGB
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:30 am
by Ythan
Beefster please talk about something other than pointless hypotheticals.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:34 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
Mothrax, I really hate that last post of yours.
I want BL claiming, and then I want pressure on Mothrax tommorow :S
Esspecially if BL were to flip scum.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:36 am
by Ythan
And Beef?
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:41 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
Beef is either A) coming to his senses or B) backpeddling
Buy the fact he's been able to prove his rolling attack again, and how he's used it to help town, I'm either null or leaning town on him for now.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:45 am
by Ythan
Thank you Lady! Bunny claim!
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:50 am
by AKnottedRope
Unvote
Beefster, I'm curious. Did anything happen to you?
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:51 am
by mothrax
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Mothrax, I really hate that last post of yours.
I want BL claiming, and then I want pressure on Mothrax tommorow :S
Esspecially if BL were to flip scum.
Orly? What is it you hate about it, the fact that I disagree with you? I have a town read on bunny, I don't want an accidental hammer happening.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:54 am
by AKnottedRope
Bunnylover wrote:Reading through Ythan Iso post.
Incredible I found shit. The only scummy thing he has done has been his sudden disappearance during Day 3 which was due to finals (semester ending)
His play is consistence throughout each day.
If Ythan is scum, what will be his downfall is his Townish play early on to his lurkish play at the moment.
I am still suspicious of Ythan, even though my try at making a case on him failed, but at the moment he has shown he is town, and I even believed he breadcrumbed a few time.
Right now these are my reads:
Town: DTM, LLD, ChronoPie
Null: Beefster, Ythan (for now), AKR, Mothrax, Zwet, ABR,
Scum/Scummy: Le Cupcake (Their was one scum in one of the mason group, its not a long shot to say their can't be one in the other mason group. Also the fact that Cupcake just comes in, votes, doesn't explain anything, then leaves), Vezo (Pro Lurker is pro), DGB (Already stated why)
For the Null, I am leaning more on this:
Null Town: Beefster, ABR, Ythan
Null Scum: Zwet (Lurker), AKR and Mothrax (haven't seen a great amount of contribution)
DTM: I was going to explain my suspicion of bunny, but this post says more than anything I could. Just... yeah.
Bunny: diescumdie
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:54 am
by AKnottedRope
Pardon the triple post, but no one hammer yet. Beefster needs to answer my question to him first.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:55 am
by Ythan
When we do determine the lynch we have ample time to discuss any other matters that players may wish to clarify before night.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:58 am
by AKnottedRope
But his answer will determine where I place my vote and suspicions.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:00 am
by Ythan
I'm adding to your suggestion that we wait a bit.