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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:55 am
by Cabd
Guyett stop fucking around and at least pretend you care about this game.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:55 am
by zMuffinMan
i mean i guess it's also possible that cabd was shot at for some reason that doesn't really make sense (like assuming it was possible mafiassk wasn't going to protect him?) and i could be way off on what the no kill means - it's really not that interesting to me anyway so i don't care if it gets dropped from discussion altogether

*shrug*

actual actual sleep time. night

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:58 am
by Guyett
In post 3600, Cabd wrote:Guyett stop fucking around and at least pretend you care about this game.
If I didn't care about this fucking I wouldn't fucking self vote. I'd let the game dribble into deadline without giving a fuck

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:07 am
by Selkies
In post 3600, Cabd wrote:Guyett stop fucking around and at least pretend you care about this game.
hi

cards are on table

guyett or nacho as notsci partner

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:07 am
by Selkies
this is all orc, fery afk'd on me apparently

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:20 am
by Guyett
If you dont lynch me I promise I'll no lynch again

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:26 am
by Selkies
actually what is wrong with you guyett

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:29 am
by Guyett
Oops meant no kill

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:35 am
by Selkies
Guyett what the fuck are you doing?

This is ffery. I may have to leave abruptly but I'm online right now.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:38 am
by Guyett
I'm throwing the game / drunk / trolling / letting my scumbuddy safely bus me.
delete where appropriate

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:39 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 2623, Nachomamma8 wrote:First of all: this game has no investigative roles, and that's a pretty shitty thing for town. I assume that the balance was shifted back to town's favor a little bit with a backup doctor: I don't think neighbors are generally regarded as a strong town force unless they're confirmed to each other, and I don't think that doctor and backup doctor plus a normal mafia team is balanced. So, I think Cabd is telling the truth regardless of his shot failing to go through (trust me, I had a hell of a moment of paranoia earlier about that but double protection roles can be expected to stop at least one kill so Cabd's shot won't eat up a mislynch, so that checks out as well). I think a full roleblocker is a pretty fucking laughable suggestion to make: one shot vig that's compulsive and may be forced to eat up a mislynch when Natirasha thinks vigs are shitty + backup doctor isn't equivalent to cop and cop+roleblocker is acceptably close to balanced. I think that a limited roleblocker punishes power roles that out early, especially since Cabd is forced to shoot Night 2 and thus a successful Roleblock on him shuts down a kill and protective role shenanigans. A bulletproof also makes sense, but I don't think it makes as much sense as a limited roleblocker since less skill and randomly screwing Cabd over for shooting the wrong scum is bleh (although admittedly still a possibility since Natriasha is an ass).

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:40 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 3603, Selkies wrote:
In post 3600, Cabd wrote:Guyett stop fucking around and at least pretend you care about this game.
hi

cards are on table

guyett or nacho as notsci partner
Literally if you have Guyett as scum I have no hope in you and will be disappointed as hell.
Having me as final scum is at least understandable, but Guyett?

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:40 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 2624, Nachomamma8 wrote:SSK, Cabd, and Goodfather are all confirmed town by claims.
Bert and Selkies read pretty fucking town by play: I actually read ffery's ISO just now so fears that I am just being lazy in reading her are quelled. It also helps that Cabd was shot last night (BUT HOLY FUCK HOLD THAT THOUGHT BECAUSE REVELATION)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:41 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 2625, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2624, Nachomamma8 wrote:SSK, Cabd, and Goodfather are all confirmed town by claims.
Bert and Selkies read pretty fucking town by play: I actually read ffery's ISO just now so fears that I am just being lazy in reading her are quelled. It also helps that Cabd was shot last night (BUT HOLY FUCK HOLD THAT THOUGHT BECAUSE REVELATION)
Nvm, continuing. It also helps that Cabd was shot last night (which we know since no one has a reason to no kill except for the three claims which all look town to me and make the setup make sense by being town) because that was a stupid fucking kill for the scum team and ffery is pretty night phase focused and wouldn't make a fuckup like that.

I also read Muffin as town: I find his way of sorting me to be pretty convincing, pretty okay. I don't like that it doesn't have any impetus behind it like he has all the time in the world, but that's a minor niggle and not one majorly worth addressing at the moment.

I think Notscience is scum. His in thread chat thread with Bert earlier was pretty town and great, but I have major niggles based on no recent play and him not really being paranoid of me or attempting to sort it in any way lately.

(I believe one of the two is scum and I hope my read solidifies soon because not sure ATM).

This means that Aronis is scum. I think Guyett is scum. I would guess Aronis/Muffin not scum together, but Natirasha is a troll, so :(

Vote: Guyett

This is the play of the day.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:41 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 2630, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2629, zMuffinMan wrote:also the lack of night kills doesn't make sense because if mafiassk is town, there is no way scum targeted cabd thinking they could kill him without blocking ssk or something

soooooooooooooooo

some shit is going on here
What shit is going on here? Because I tried to think of a reason for scum to fuck up that badly, and I had a hell of a time coming up with anything that sounded even kind of plausible.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:42 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 2640, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2638, zMuffinMan wrote:
nacho wrote:It also helps that Cabd was shot last night (which we know since no one has a reason to no kill except for the three claims which all look town to me and make the setup make sense by being town) because that was a stupid fucking kill for the scum team and ffery is pretty night phase focused and wouldn't make a fuckup like that.
assuming both cabd and mafiassk are town, who exactly do you think
would
be stupid enough to shoot at the only person mafiassk would reasonably protect?
No clue. Did they fail to submit an NK?

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:44 am
by Selkies
In post 3611, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 3603, Selkies wrote:
In post 3600, Cabd wrote:Guyett stop fucking around and at least pretend you care about this game.
hi

cards are on table

guyett or nacho as notsci partner
Literally if you have Guyett as scum I have no hope in you and will be disappointed as hell.
Having me as final scum is at least understandable, but Guyett?
Orcinus, I don't feel as strongly about it, but I do agree that Guyett's probably town.

I have to leave now. :/

Maybe we can synch later.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:45 am
by Selkies
if guyett's town then i have nacho by POE

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:48 am
by Nachomamma8
Isn't it really cool that all of those posts are townier than anything Muffin posted around the no kill time?
He can go as far to say I had more motive to Roleblock Cabd than he did (a tiny, tiny bit), but in this hypothetical world, I would have had to rolecop Cabd Night 1 and then still been a useless shit/make no effort to be townread around the time Day 2 came alone even though I could have just stepped up my game a bit and pretty much guaranteed no vig shot. I also wouldn't no kill gambit in order to make SSK scummier when a no kill doesn't particularly make SSK look scummier and I can still fuel that paranoia while killing off threats (Muffin, Selkies) and also wouldn't leave Cabd alive Night 3 if I was afraid enough of his shot to Roleblock him.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:49 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 3617, Selkies wrote:if guyett's town then i have nacho by POE
See this is acceptable.
It's still pretty bad, but it's not as horrible as "guyett scum".

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:50 am
by Selkies
call me stupid but i feel like nacho would've killed cabd earlier

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:09 am
by Guyett
In post 3620, Selkies wrote:call me stupid but i feel like nacho would've killed cabd earlier
You're stupid.

scum knew there was a doc with a scum nurse in play. They couldnt kill ssk as he was lynchbait and him flipping town might bring attention to gf.
of course doc is going to protect the only other outed pr that wasnt a neighbour. They'd be full on retarded to try shoot cabd before ssk.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:15 am
by Selkies
well they had a roleblocker

this must be embarrassing for you

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:17 am
by Guyett
It'll be even more embarrassing for you soon.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:23 am
by Guyett
If you think I'm scum why haven't you voted for me yet?