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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:04 am
by Reasonably Rational
So, let's think about this.
What's the fallout of a town flip on the part of either A50 or B&M? Does a townflip on either clear the other in your mind?
-Cerb
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:08 am
by Chara
if baku and munna are town, i'd call Almost town even without what i said already.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:09 am
by Chara
In post 3582, Reasonably Rational wrote:Answer the thing? Nope. Too busy to spend time on it, my first thought is clearly not correct, haven't put any more thought into it.
-Cerb
see if you can get Drixx to help you, it's important. i wouldn't send you a time waster. thanks for looking at it.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:11 am
by Maid Cafe
In post 3600, Reasonably Rational wrote:So, let's think about this.
What's the fallout of a town flip on the part of either A50 or B&M? Does a townflip on either clear the other in your mind?
-Cerb
The only town flip that I think clears one of my reads is Gamma flipping town ruins half the reasons I think Venmar is scum.
~B
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:13 am
by Maid Cafe
Like idk I am not sure which of the 2 flipping town would clear the other.
A50 flipping town to some degree clears the reasons for scum reading B&M? But I wouldn't say they are remotely town outside the reasons brought up to scum read them.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:16 am
by Reasonably Rational
In post 3602, Chara wrote: In post 3582, Reasonably Rational wrote:Answer the thing? Nope. Too busy to spend time on it, my first thought is clearly not correct, haven't put any more thought into it.
-Cerb
see if you can get Drixx to help you, it's important. i wouldn't send you a time waster. thanks for looking at it.
I already told Drixx about it, all he said was "Hmm, that's a good riddle". Then I said like 20 lines of stuff about the game, and he didn't answer.
-Cerb
pedit: A50 flipping town...means that a town slot cast that artifact, so it was not a scum thing period, just a dumb town thing, yes? B&M flipping town...makes A50 unlikely to be scum as well? Well. Maybe not. The action is still scummy etc. Can either flip scum, and have the other be town, if things happen the other way.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:16 am
by Maid Cafe
oh wait right, the motivation for A50 claiming is covering for Baku.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:18 am
by baku and munna
in the hypothetical universe where me and a50 are both scum, why does a50 throw themselves in front of the bullet?
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:20 am
by Maid Cafe
Varsoon said he had 8 "planes" planned.
I highly doubt we can go back to MtG this game given we now know that means he has 8 different "games" designed.
Also we could play a super spicy fun game called "aggressively lynch all of beeboy's scum reads until one flips town"
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:21 am
by Chara
In post 3605, Reasonably Rational wrote:pedit: A50 flipping town...means that a town slot cast that artifact, so it was not a scum thing period, just a dumb town thing, yes? B&M flipping town...makes A50 unlikely to be scum as well? Well. Maybe not. The action is still scummy etc. Can either flip scum, and have the other be town, if things happen the other way.
baku and munna can be scum without the quickhammer being related, is the thing.
Almost is scum because of the quickhammer.
if baku and munna are town, there's no reason for scum Almost to claim and cover for them when no one knew who was responsible, besides beeboy's theory of being so ridiculously scummy that no one calls him scum.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:22 am
by Chara
In post 3605, Reasonably Rational wrote:I already told Drixx about it, all he said was "Hmm, that's a good riddle". Then I said like 20 lines of stuff about the game, and he didn't answer.
it shouldn't be a hard puzzle, but i don't know what it is. it's very game-related, and time-sensitive.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:22 am
by Maid Cafe
In post 3607, baku and munna wrote:in the hypothetical universe where me and a50 are both scum, why does a50 throw themselves in front of the bullet?
This is like the near perfect player list to do a strat like what he is doing.
Get town read for the reasons Chara said.
I really don't think what A50 is doing is suicidal play.
Almost positive A50 actually possesses the sword so like the flip doesn't directly tie the 2 of you either.
~B
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:23 am
by Maid Cafe
In post 3609, Chara wrote:if baku and munna are town, there's no reason for scum Almost to claim and cover for them when no one knew who was responsible, besides beeboy's theory of being so ridiculously scummy that no one calls him scum.
This is actually a legit strat lmao.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:23 am
by Maid Cafe
You can tell me it's not a legit strat but look at this game, it seems to be doing a great job of working for him.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:24 am
by Reasonably Rational
Oh. Can anyone confirm that they had a way to generate a shitload of mana for themselves or another person? I had a spell that cost more than I could possibly make in a day, and B&M claimed to have a spell that cost *twice* as much mana as they could generate.
So, either we're going back to magic, or somebody had an ability to create a bunch of mana, or varsoon put in red herring spells that we were never meant to cast(which is a dick move).
@B&M:
Main reason I can think of is A50 could easily get away with it, with all the confusion and noise caused by that claim and their accompanying AtE.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:24 am
by Reasonably Rational
In post 3614, Reasonably Rational wrote:Oh. Can anyone confirm that they had a way to generate a shitload of mana for themselves or another person? I had a spell that cost more than I could possibly make in a day, and B&M claimed to have a spell that cost *twice* as much mana as they could generate.
So, either we're going back to magic, or somebody had an ability to create a bunch of mana, or varsoon put in red herring spells that we were never meant to cast(which is a dick move).
@B&M:
Main reason I can think of is A50 could easily get away with it, with all the confusion and noise caused by that claim and their accompanying AtE.
-Cerb
(sorry, thought I had already signed before the @B&M, which was a pedit)
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:24 am
by Chara
i'm not covering for Almost if he doesn't want to try and solve the game going forward. i even gave him his vote and powers back. if he still wants to get mislynched at that point, i can't do anything. :<
all i ask is we use as much of the day as is possible, and i'll sheep whatever you want, beeboy.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:26 am
by Chara
In post 3614, Reasonably Rational wrote:Oh. Can anyone confirm that they had a way to generate a shitload of mana for themselves or another person? I had a spell that cost more than I could possibly make in a day, and B&M claimed to have a spell that cost *twice* as much mana as they could generate.
So, either we're going back to magic, or somebody had an ability to create a bunch of mana, or varsoon put in red herring spells that we were never meant to cast(which is a dick move).
i can confirm every spell was possible to cast. can't answer why but by the parameters you set, Varsoon didn't just red-herring them.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:26 am
by Maid Cafe
I mean Varsoon gave me a pm full of combos that I could never do over 1 day.
We aren't going back to MtG though, I don't think Varsoon lies about making 8 planes seems too casual to lie about.
Like the day 1 -> 2 swap was designed to be literally unpredictable it wouldn't surprise me if you weren't meant to cast those spells.
(Day 1 -> 2 swap I actually think was a tiny bit bastard cause we played assuming we could plan ahead which we couldn't)
(although all future swaps are fair game I just wish it was advertised better, but I am having fun this game so I don't mind)
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:27 am
by Reasonably Rational
In post 3616, Chara wrote:i'm not covering for Almost if he doesn't want to try and solve the game going forward.
i even gave him his vote and powers back.
if he still wants to get mislynched at that point, i can't do anything. :<
all i ask is we use as much of the day as is possible, and i'll sheep whatever you want, beeboy.
Elaborate. I understand you're referring to the route change, which you claim to not actually have made the decision on...but are you saying you activated it for A50's sake?
-Cerb
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:28 am
by Reasonably Rational
Eh, we could go back and forth to MTG and other themes. Nothing preventing that MC.
-Cerb
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:28 am
by Chara
In post 3619, Reasonably Rational wrote:Elaborate. I understand you're referring to the route change, which you claim to not actually have made the decision on...but are you saying you activated it for A50's sake?
no. i didn't know "resetting the day" would also reset Skybird's inability to be targeted or Almost's being blocked.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:29 am
by Chara
Cerb, tell you what. solve the puzzle, i will tell you every damn thing i know and everything i've kept from you the whole game.
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:31 am
by Reasonably Rational
Eh, you should probably just tell me those things anyways if you want town to win.
-Cerb
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:31 am
by Chara
In post 3622, Chara wrote:Cerb, tell you what. solve the puzzle, i will tell you every damn thing i know and everything i've kept from you the whole game.