SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[Shoshin]

Last scum is probably DV.

[Punreader]

Lynch Pun. They're playing anti-town regardless what they say.

Yes shooting Fire Assassin was

so

anti-town of me.

[Punreader]

I'd like to reiterate:

Of course I do confess some of my actions have been driven by the wincon. I did need guacamole dead at some point and shot him in part due to this, but that was also a shot made because many people were assuming the worst and guacamole was the punteam.

I didn't think the worst's flip would entirely dissuade people from that conclusion; I thought people would still be under the impression guacamole was pun anyway in spite of the obvious. (If I am wrong and upon the worst's flip you were convinced guacamole was town, then I do apologize.)

Yes I did shoot guacamole to pursue my wincon. I have stated as much openly. I maintain the shot was also to the benefit of the town.

What would stop guacamole from being the worst's punbuddy, having targeted the worst, and the worst simply having copied the power, and when it was claimed, set up distancing?

Of course I found that rather unlikely. But since I'm convinced Espeonage is the worst's punbuddy and have been convinced Espeonage is pun even before the worst claimed pun to me, obviously I already believed guacamole to be town anyway.

But what I more mean is...what would stop

you from arguing

guacamole as being the worst's punbuddy, having set up that distancing with that maneuver?

I knew I was shooting town, yes. I maintain I was not shooting

conftown

, and that suspicion would have remained on guacamole today had I not taken that shot.

[Shoshin]

I said repeatedly that guac's only plausible partner was DV. Guac would have been confirmed town after the worst's flip, at least from my perspective. The role shenanigans would have added further evidence to that.

[Shoshin]

We need to kill Pun today, the last scum tomorrow.

[Shoshin]

Nahdia gave Screen a 0, so I find it hard to believe that Guac's partner is either of the worst, Krazy, or Espe. Krazy and the worst gave Screen a 0. Espe gave him a 2. So, like, most likely partner for Guac is DV. And if DV's town, Guac's probably town and the scum are Krazy and the worst. And if that's not right, then scum pulled some crazy gambit and we're overlooking something.

Like, I don't get why Pun shot guac when it was very clear that the worst's flip cleared guac. From my perspective, Pun killed the towniest player in the game. We can't leave Pun alive because we can't trust Pun anymore. I didn't want to leave them alive yesterday but I figured they were intentionally town siding after shooting Fire. Turns out I was wrong, they can't be trusted, so they need to die today.

[DeasVail]

Last scum is probably DV.

I believe you wouldn’t be saying this as town.

I don’t think it’s usually possible for a single scum member to target two different people.

And I also don’t think it would make much sense specifically for me to be able to meow and kill in the same night.

[Shoshin]

I was thinking about that...

[Shoshin]

I don't see why scum wouldn't be able to target two different people in the same night, but if that's true, then DV is confirmed town and the last scum is in fact Espe.

[Shoshin]

Either way, we need to lynch Pun today because we can't trust Pun not to kill Vax.

[Shoshin]

Anyone can use multiple powers on the same night.

So DV isn't confirmed...

[DeasVail]

Anyone can use multiple powers on the same night.

So DV isn't confirmed...

Ah okay, fair. I didn’t notice that.

[DeasVail]

Shoshin I think you should vote for Espe.

I’m not really up for lynching pun right now because I would much rather try and lynch scum.

I also am at the stage where I’m pretty sure it’s Espe over you.

I’m also town.

[Shoshin]

Pun is confirmed scum, DV.

[Shoshin]

Like, why would we leave Pun alive? What's the point?

[Shoshin]

UNVOTE: Pun

[Vaxkiller]

Hey, tomorrow when its jsut you guys since ill prob be dead being the most obv town here, im thinking espy is scum, but im also forgetting waht they claimed... waht did they claim again?

[DeasVail]

Pun is confirmed scum, DV.

I agree, but I am slightly worried about being wrong on Espe being scum, and the situation if I am wrong seems ever so slightly less dire with punreader alive.

I also am concerned that I am more likely to be mislynched in a 3P LYLO scenario than I am here. And as much as I would be having a similar thought as scum, at this point even as town staying alive is important.

[DeasVail]

Either way, we need to lynch Pun today because we can't trust Pun not to kill Vax.

I get what you mean but we need to sort the you-me-Espe triangle sooner or later regardless.

[Shoshin]

Have you picked up any associative tells from the worst?

[Shoshin]

I don't see how I could be anything but clear at this point.

[Shoshin]

Like, besides the fact that I lobbied for Shepard's lynch on D2 in a way that scum don't do, I was also the mislynch that scum pushed as counterwagon to Shepard. You'd have to really stretch the imagination to argue that I'm scum.

[Shoshin]

My active ability, Spread the Word, is in fact a conditional vig. When I target someone ranked lower than me, I kill them. You're the only player ranked lower than me and I absolutely refuse to kill you at this point (if for no other reason than it'd render my win impossible and pun should want you dead anyway so I'm not doing their work for them when they screwed me over by not killing you), so I am not going to kill again.

However, I breadcrumbed yet never claimed that there is another half of Spread the Word: when I target someone ranked higher than me, I infect them. This infection does nothing; it doesn't kill them, it doesn't spread, it's completely and entirely harmless. But it is related to my wincon.

What happens if someone is ranked exactly the same as you?

[Vaxkiller]

It's pretty much DV vs espy at this point, if shoshin is scum they can have it because they played too well, im not going to WIFOM shoshin back into the list.

We are lynching Pun today and Espy or DV tomorrow, im leaning espy at thsi point.

[Vaxkiller]

hey, can i get an "atta boy" at teh end of this game? I've been pretty on target with getting cshep and theworst.