Gustavo is lynched
brassherald comes out and says that we've.... just been.... fucking
pranked!!!
it was all a joke! look the cameras are here and here! you should have seen the look on your face! there were no more scum after all!
turns out that it was a insanely townsided 11 v 2!
We all get nominated for kodak moment, have a good laugh about it, brassherald gets banned from modding
In post 3595, Gustavo wrote:You don’t think paranoia can be faked but you seem to think I can fake all my reactions though...
Again ignoring context. I'm not saying paranoia can't be faked in general. I'm saying based on what I know about skitter, this is not the reaction she'd have as scum.
As scum you are stubborn. You push things that you call "scumtells" with the same amount of conviction as when you are town. You can project an inner belief that townies are legitimately scummy and deserve to be lynched. You seem to be the kind of player that would legitimately hate it and be offended if you are caught for what you think are the wrong reasons. So, I don't townread your reactions. I don't necessarily scumread them either. But your predecessor's interactions with flipped scum and Errant's behavior during the guilty is what I'm basing my decision on.
How many games have you played with scum skitter?
Scum pushing scumtells is what scum is supposed to do. I’m not being stubborn when I’m pushing them as scum. You completely misrepped me when you said my game here is similar to my scum game, it isn’t at all yet people just believed you.
As for this game. Shos intentionally lied. How can I ignore that? If you were town and somebody intentionally lied about you to shade you, would you ignore it? I don’t think you would.
That’s what this all game down to really. If shos hadn’t lied the entire game would have been different
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:45 am
by Gustavo
In post 3597, Errantparabola wrote:in the context of my post I was saying that they didnt have roleclaims
But they did...
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:46 am
by Gustavo
In post 3597, Errantparabola wrote:scum that is trying to win by employing a honestly really risky strategy of begging to be lynched
I’m not begging to be lynched. I’m saying that today resolving the no kill night 1 is probably more important. I’m still urging people to vote bv but I’m fine being lynched also.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:46 am
by Irrelephant11
mm I'm fine sheeping BV on Skitter. He's either town who's almost definitely right or scum who's definitely right
I do wish skitter had the time/energy to clarify if she thought BV was pocketing her y/n. I had thought once or twice that he probably was when I scumread him more
It's just BV if we get to mylo, I'm ready for the lynch whenever keyser/skitter (if skitter had more to say?) are
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:51 am
by Gustavo
I can’t seem to find a game where skitter has been scum at all, let alone where bv was town. I’ll have to search from a computer. Without that this meta read on skitter’s attitude when playing as scum is clearly fabricated.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:53 am
by BlackVoid
I didn't play with skitter when she was scum. I'm basing it on personality/player analysis. We played two games where we were both town and one more game as a hydra (town). I've spectating a handful of her scumgames which gave me a good understanding of scumrange.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:54 am
by Gustavo
Oh I like being right.
In post 3605, Gustavo wrote:Without that this meta read on skitter’s attitude when playing as scum is clearly fabricated.
If you don’t have multiple games with somebody as scum, you can’t speak to how they would react.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:14 am
by Gustavo
As proved by the fact you’ve already misreped my scum game when they are clearly different
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:20 am
by Gustavo
From my scum game
“Being stubborn in this game doesn’t work. If you are town you have to get other people to work with you. Stubbornness is the best way to push people away and not want to play with you anymore. Sometimes you have to scrap your original idea and go back to the drawing board.”
Yet bv says my game here is similar to that game
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:21 am
by BlackVoid
That's exactly what you did when you voted Gamma and Momrangal.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:26 am
by Gustavo
And interestingly enough I didn’t do that in my scum game
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:33 am
by Gustavo
My scum game doesn’t come close to how I play as town. I can’t even get how anyone seems similarities
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:34 am
by BlackVoid
Would you say you're capable of replicating what you did here as scum even if you didn't do specific things you did here in that one completed scumgame?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:41 am
by Gustavo
I’d probably be too nervous to attempt it as scum. The great thing about being VT is I don’t have any fear. If I’m lynched it’s no big deal cause town has the numbers. It’s why I kept my head down that game until it was strategically beneficial to be vocal
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:43 am
by Gustavo
I’ll leave people with this and then I really have to get back to work.
As scum it would be stupid for me to want bv lynched. Bv flipping BP would prett much eliminate any doubt in people’s mind that I’m scum. I lose hands down to errant or skitter.
As scum i’d need bv with me in lylo
Sure it’s wifom but it’s also the truth.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:55 am
by BlackVoid
That's a bad argument to begin with because you could still be town that wasn't shot. I don't know why people keep continuing to push this flawed logic. Having me in lylo is probably scum's best chance of losing the game because I'm harder to argue against than either you or Errant. You have to push back on me here because I'm pushing you and if you don't plant the seed of doubt about me, you're just going to end up lynched.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:00 am
by Irrelephant11
In post 3600, Errantparabola wrote:Gustavo is lynched
brassherald comes out and says that we've.... just been.... fucking
pranked!!!
it was all a joke! look the cameras are here and here! you should have seen the look on your face! there were no more scum after all!
turns out that it was a insanely townsided 11 v 2!
We all get nominated for kodak moment, have a good laugh about it, brassherald gets banned from modding
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:12 am
by Gustavo
In post 3616, BlackVoid wrote:That's a bad argument to begin with because you could still be town that wasn't shot. I don't know why people keep continuing to push this flawed logic. Having me in lylo is probably scum's best chance of losing the game because I'm harder to argue against than either you or Errant. You have to push back on me here because I'm pushing you and if you don't plant the seed of doubt about me, you're just going to end up lynched.
I pushed you first though so this is flawed logic. You as scum have to push back at me because I’ve made great points. You grasped at straws when you pulled out that switch to gamma and again when you tried to imply my scum meta is similar when it isn’t.
I find it interesting he said he had mom as his top scum read but never votes. He also is seen asking why mom/bernie can’t be town v town. Later he’s talking about mom and the worst. Mom’s wagon already has 4 and He says he’s thinking of voting the worst. Why would he vote the worst over mom who is his top scum read and has the bigger wagon? He then disappeared and we lynched mom.
I saw mom pushing hard early day 1 for nm’s predecessor so for now nm can be left to continue playing against his win condition imo.
Why would I leave nm here and vote black if I were scum?
I’ve been suspicious of Black for a while. It wasn’t just today.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:26 am
by BlackVoid
You were suspicious of me, yeah but I'm talking about your play today. Me attacking you seems to have made you more sure about your read.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:28 am
by Gustavo
I will say that even though he flipped town, I’m so glad we lynched nm eventually. Regardless what happens today everyone has put in effort.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:29 am
by Gustavo
In post 3620, BlackVoid wrote:You were suspicious of me, yeah but I'm talking about your play today. Me attacking you seems to have made you more sure about your read.
After I voted you, you started grasping at straws. Desperation is a scum trait.
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:29 am
by BlackVoid
Tbh, I still have misgivings. Gustavo, can you walk me through what you think of Errant?
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:34 am
by Gustavo
That point about me voting gamma over mom. You can’t honestly use that against me because your predecessor did the same thing only worse
Your slot twice had the opportunity to vote mom and didn’t.
You misrep my scum game and tried to imply it’s similar to my town game when it isn’t.
All this happens AFTER I voted you.
That’s desperate. I’m fine being lynched. I’ve left great nuggets of wisdom for town. I’m not desperate
