Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:02 am
Oh good lord walls of text heckin eff that
In post 3100, northsidegal wrote:
Mod Notes:
skitter30 is V/LA on weekends.
Nimueh is V/LA while sick.
lol this postIn post 3150, NotMySpamAccount wrote:I'm gonna goahead and agree with Ank that town cohesion is done for. I'm crazy suspicious of the flubber claim, but I'm willing to lynch xtoxm just to see. VOTE: xtoxm If we can't get a lynch within irl today or tomorrow there's no way town has a chance bc we'll never agree enough on anything.
Actually agree on this.In post 3358, Chara wrote:tris put Flubber at L-1 here, and he didn't claim IC until 4 hours later. i don't think she's scum based on that alone.In post 3079, tris wrote:I think I wasn't very clear in my post. The wifom thing wasn't a reason to vote xtoxm. It was something that was frustrating me. It was actually something that made me more wary of the wagon, but as I said, I've been having trouble finding somewhere else to vote.In post 3072, xRECKONERx wrote:my issue with that post is huge:
tris is pushing xtoxm using the same reasoning she used to push brigitte
but brigitte flipped town
i would expect town to reevaluate their reads on a townflip
but i think tris shows here that she's just pushing people's names out there without any actual thought behind the push?
argh im trying so hard to get the words out of my head that im thinking
basically, tris is on autopilot pushing on one of the major wagons and using shitty reasoning to get on board that resulted in a town flip last time but it doesn't occur to tris that is bad because tris is scum therefore everyone else is the same alignment so why would she need to change up her push/reasons/etc
god that's so confusing. ill try to step away and rethink how i can communicate my reasoning better
VOTE: tris
Actually, VOTE: FlubbernuggetL-1
even if scum wouldn't have outright lost on a Flubber lynch there, having to confirm 5 townies would still have screwed scum over. i'd like opinions on this though.
I like this tbhIn post 3367, Chara wrote:town: Ankamius, skitter30, Elbirn, Succinct (unless this was the bus? going to look again)
probably town based on my theory: tris
player i'm townreading but really really needs to get in here and town it up so i don't worry he's scum: Creature
leftovers: Reck, Nim, NMSA
not good enough, but it's a start. gun to my head i'd lynch Reck.
I don't think this was too far off the markIn post 587, Ankamius wrote:Ok so for real
I don't like the homogenized gamestate we are in right now
Either scum are pocketed to hell and back or there's enough mislynches at the bottom of the chain to hide them until they can break the townblock that's been forming apart
In a vacuum I'd expect at least one scum in the active posters atm and currently I think it's most likely to be urap2 via toneread
Chara could be scum this game but I also incorrectly scumread it last time we played in the same game so I don't trust that read as much
NMSA is probably town if I had to guess
How do you mean? There's multiple possibilities listed there.In post 3609, Ankamius wrote:I don't think this was too far off the markIn post 587, Ankamius wrote:Ok so for real
I don't like the homogenized gamestate we are in right now
Either scum are pocketed to hell and back or there's enough mislynches at the bottom of the chain to hide them until they can break the townblock that's been forming apart
In a vacuum I'd expect at least one scum in the active posters atm and currently I think it's most likely to be urap2 via toneread
Chara could be scum this game but I also incorrectly scumread it last time we played in the same game so I don't trust that read as much
NMSA is probably town if I had to guess
Who was active at the time?In post 3609, Ankamius wrote:I don't think this was too far off the markIn post 587, Ankamius wrote:Ok so for real
I don't like the homogenized gamestate we are in right now
Either scum are pocketed to hell and back or there's enough mislynches at the bottom of the chain to hide them until they can break the townblock that's been forming apart
In a vacuum I'd expect at least one scum in the active posters atm and currently I think it's most likely to be urap2 via toneread
Chara could be scum this game but I also incorrectly scumread it last time we played in the same game so I don't trust that read as much
NMSA is probably town if I had to guess
What do you think about my argument for NMSA being town?In post 3600, Elbirn wrote:Oh good lord walls of text heckin eff that
:THONK:In post 740, Flubbernugget wrote:As much as both of his main pushes skeeve me out reck looks better after his reads list than before. The fake anger thing I pointed out stemmed from the fact that I really didn't see anything that looked like provocation from me or Enter to actually irritate him in any reasonable way. It made his posting seem like he was more playing to a character than being genuinely crass. That was why I decided to unvote for him when the wagon was forming. I wanted as few irritants to reck at the time to see what he would and wouldn't get pissy about. That ended up being moot by the LAL push anyway.
As previously mentioned, I'm liking urap for scum. His pushes off the nmsa wagon were basically just a few new votes and wagon solicitations. And when nothing happened, they just tried the same thing with a new head. It's not really a productive way to try and form reads and doesn't come off as actually trying to solve the game.
Ank is looking pretty scummy too.
iirc it was basically everyone on the NMSA wagon?In post 3611, Creature wrote:Who was active at the time?In post 3609, Ankamius wrote:I don't think this was too far off the markIn post 587, Ankamius wrote:Ok so for real
I don't like the homogenized gamestate we are in right now
Either scum are pocketed to hell and back or there's enough mislynches at the bottom of the chain to hide them until they can break the townblock that's been forming apart
In a vacuum I'd expect at least one scum in the active posters atm and currently I think it's most likely to be urap2 via toneread
Chara could be scum this game but I also incorrectly scumread it last time we played in the same game so I don't trust that read as much
NMSA is probably town if I had to guess
In post 3597, skitter30 wrote:If there arent scum offwagon i'd be shocked. There just weren 7 votes to lynch him there and like no scum being offwagon means both were onwagon in a game where they'd have to conftown 5 people on his flip and they couldnt lynch him *despite* both of them being onwagon. That part of the game just doesnt make sense if there arent scum offwagon thereIn post 3594, Nimueh wrote:However, that said, the setup spec/IC thing/ post suggesting one or both votes are “offwagon”,
(And again it seems to me that you dont like ir because you happen to be in that group so)
No, I don’t like it because you’re not on that list. Therefore, I can’t completely rule out any self-interest on your part, I don’t think it’s at all cool that you are making virtually no attempt to sort me in this game. How is that at all pro-town?In post 3596, skitter30 wrote:I'm not, I've said repeatedly that I'm doing my best not to read themIn post 3594, Nimueh wrote:What I do care about, is you total lack of progression on my slot, which doesn’t require you to interact with me directly but show some demonstration of critically reading my posts
In post 3587, tris wrote: NMSA seems unlikely to be scum because Flubbernugget was on that wagon while it was at L-1 for a while.
This kind of strengthens my theory on possible Skitter scum. I think the fake IC thing was likely discussed in scum chat in some capacity and I think the most logical play for scum in this situation, would have been on his wagon, then conveniently jump off post-IC claim and based on her ISO in that Townsquare game, scum!Skitter would definitely distance. I think that Chara being offwagon prior to Flubber IC claim, actually makes her more likely to be town here, not less because I think scum would have had to have had some idea of Flubber’s plan and her being onwagon pre-claim, would indicate she didn’t.In post 3604, Creature wrote:In post 3100, northsidegal wrote:
Mod Notes:
skitter30 is V/LA on weekends.
Nimueh is V/LA while sick.
right, and NMSA chose to vote Flubber at a time that was important.In post 3617, tris wrote:@Chara What do you think of this?
In post 3587, tris wrote: NMSA seems unlikely to be scum because Flubbernugget was on that wagon while it was at L-1 for a while.
i mean i guess i can see that this could be a thing but like in context it doesn't make me feel much better about your trajectory on himIn post 3599, xRECKONERx wrote:I really like leaning on early gut reads since I think first impressions are really strongIn post 3547, skitter30 wrote:like i guess idk why that early stuff made such a strong impression on you that it kept on making you unvote even after seeing him do scummy stuff laterIn post 3465, xRECKONERx wrote:then i kept seeing him do scummy things and would vote him only to remind myself "wait shit he did that stuff early game that makes him town" so i unvoted
I feel like that plan would have been risky. People aren't guaranteed to believe the claim. Skitter in particular would have known that I knew about the game she had been in, so I could have pointed out the possibility.In post 3618, Nimueh wrote:This kind of strengthens my theory on possible Skitter scum. I think the fake IC thing was likely discussed in scum chat in some capacity and I think the most logical play for scum in this situation, would have been on his wagon, then conveniently jump off post-IC claim and based on her ISO in that Townsquare game, scum!Skitter would definitely distance. I think that Chara being offwagon prior to Flubber IC claim, actually makes her more likely to be town here, not less because I think scum would have had to have had some idea of Flubber’s plan and her being onwagon pre-claim, would indicate she didn’t.In post 3604, Creature wrote:In post 3100, northsidegal wrote:
Mod Notes:
skitter30 is V/LA on weekends.
Nimueh is V/LA while sick.
this is a good point because skitter's also aware i spectated that, so that's two different players who could have called her out.In post 3621, tris wrote:I feel like that plan would have been risky. People aren't guaranteed to believe the claim. Skitter in particular would have known that I knew about the game she had been in, so I could have pointed out the possibility.