Mini Normal 2068: Cat Art! [Game Over]

[DrDolittle]

I think that's exactly it. With 3 masons 2 neighbours AND a traitor, my role is essentially rubbish. Mafia knows that my clears dont mean anything, and keeps me alive for the endgame wifom mislynch.

[Emperor flippyNips]

I can’t stress enough how much I hate when a VT claims a pr to try & stay alive. 9/10 they get killed & I’m one of the ones sr em for it & then I feel like a asshole when they flip green.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Also if creature was a mason does that mean BEF is lying?

[Pretentious]

Whoever I visited should say too.

Vedith your suggestion is terrible. Scum will just kill off conf town in BEF

You visited me last night. How is that relevant?

This is the scum team?

Visitor doesn’t give an announcement to its target.

Target doesn’t know it was visited.

[Pretentious]

I think that's exactly it. With 3 masons 2 neighbours AND a traitor, my role is essentially rubbish. Mafia knows that my clears dont mean anything, and keeps me alive for the endgame wifom mislynch.

This is also false. Neighbor and masons are already outed.

There would still be one scum in a PT likely here, meaning if they don’t care, flippy is lock scum.

[Pretentious]

This was a shade on DDL’s play because from his perspective, he shouldn’t be thinking that.

I think it’s DDL/Vedith.

[Pretentious]

Also if creature was a mason does that mean BEF is lying?

No, he said they all 3 were.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Creature said that?

[Pretentious]

DDL - PT cop
Nips - Neighbor
BEF - Mason
Vedith - Visitor not in a PT
Worst - not in a PT
Pret - not in a PT

If you believe that there is a traitor, then that means Vedith-TW-Pret can have only 1 scum in them, Max.

If you don’t believe there’s a traitor, there can only be 1 scum in there max, because in that scenario, DDL is confscum based on the Not in PT clears, and he could have ‘inno’d a partner trying to convince of a traitor.

There isn’t a world where there is more than 1 scum in Pret-Vedith-TW.

Meaning

DD-TW
DD-Vedith
DD-Pret
Flips-Pret
Flips-Vedith
Flips-TW

are the only options.

DD-TW
DD-Vedith
Flips-TW
Flips-Vedith

Is from my perspective.

I think DD is more than likely scum.

Flips-DD isn’t on the table for me right now because of DD’s weird play. He cleared the rest of us, and is pushing a traitor, but even with a traitor in the game, they’d need a partner, meaning from DDL’s perspective of there being a traitor, Flips would HAVE to be scum.

So that’s why i think DD over Flips.

It’s probably just DD-Vedith or DD-TW to a lesser degree.

[Pretentious]

Creature said that?

Yeah

[Pretentious]

Flips, if you’re town, DDL is lockscum because of the “not in PT” clears he made on the three.

Only 1 scum could possibly be not in a PT, and that’s if they are a traitor, meaning the last scum HAS to be DDL from your perspective if you are town.

[Pretentious]

DDL literally has to be scum.

If he were town, Flips would be lockscum to him. That means he doesn’t believe what he’s been saying.

[Pretentious]

I realized Vedith claimed Loud now. Alright. That’s fine.

[Pretentious]

Put DDL-Flips back on the table.

From both of their perspectives, if town, they should be confscum to each other right now.

[Pretentious]

Mason
Mason
Mason
Loud indecisive doctor
Loud Visitor
neighbor
Neighbor possible VT
Vt
Vt
Vt

Goon
Goon possible neighbor
PT cop

[Pretentious]

Yeah, there’s no traitor. DDL is just scum which means we can’t trust his results either.

[Pretentious]

I don’t necessarily think it’s Flips, but if it is Flips, then DDL just didn’t play well and got themselves scumlocked. Thing is, I can’t be sure that that didn’t happen...

[Pretentious]

Actually...

One of TW-Flips are confirmed scum as well due to the amount of potential VT’s in the setup.

(You can add an additional one of Pret-Flips are scum for clarity)


So it’s DDL and one of TW-Flips.

UNLESS Vedith is a Loud something Traitor.

[Pretentious]

Mason
Mason
Mason
Neighbor
Neighbor
Loud indecisive doctor
Vt
Vt
Vt
Vt

Goon
Loud something
Pt cop

There doesn’t even need to be a traitor in the scenario, because DDL just lies.

I’m gut reading Vedith as town here because I generally want to push him as scum at this point in the game, and he wanted to just kill DDL here. So it’s like a counter gut. I’m fit reading that I’m wrong in thinking Vedith is scum here.

I can’t figure out which of Worst and Flips I think is scum.

DDL, in theory, should be a crossvote today, because when they take all the given info in, they’re scumlocked to each other.

[Pretentious]

Well if DDL is town then it's the only possible view unless you think it's just 2 scum?

I'm thinking just lynch DDL here.
I'm not sure how he's still alive even now, unless there's a traitor and Nips is other scum.

Other option is no lynch and go into tomorrow with actual LyLo, not MyLo.

The fact Vedith gets this and DDL pushed the idea of lynching within the three of us gives credibility to them not being a team.

[Pretentious]

DDL-Flips
DDL-Worst


DDL is scum. Locking it in.

[Pretentious]

I can’t stress enough how much I hate when a VT claims a pr to try & stay alive. 9/10 they get killed & I’m one of the ones sr em for it & then I feel like a asshole when they flip green.

Also if creature was a mason does that mean BEF is lying?

Creature said that?

I don’t think he fakes this as scum, and if he does fake it, it’d be obvious, at least to me.

It’s DDL-TW.

[Pretentious]

Macabre

[5]:

Emperor flippyNips

,

Creature

,

Pretentious

,

The Worst, Dr DoLittle

Not Voting [3]:

Vedith

,

BrightEyedFish, Macabre

FlippyNips was sitting on Macabre for a while, which makes me believe he wasn’t scum making this happen.

Creature and I joined after Creature revealed his mason stuff.

This gave ample opportunity for the scum team of duck and bear to move forward.

@Vedith - we saw this last game when the entire team hopped on the end of wagons. It’s just kind of a natural thing.

[Vedith]

This is the scum team?

Visitor doesn’t give an announcement to its target.

Target doesn’t know it was visited.

I'm confirmed loud.

[Vedith]

Yeah I'm still going with RC/Pret as town here.