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In post 3588, Noraa wrote:You know what? Lets just kill 5uffering today. Nancy you are so certain this flips scum yeah?
When this flips town, you are even with me and my opinion is just as important are yours albeit more but ur a stump so we're even. Because you're about to kill a vanilla cop and all I killed was a VT.
We are about to be even just wait.
I haven't even read up yet but I have to say that the fact that we are running up a vanilla cop claim on day 2 is like not ok especially given we didnt even get a night 1.
I dont know if suffering is scum and I have had pings there but I believe that this is 100% not the optimal lim today and has a decent possibility of flipping town.

In post 3589, Noraa wrote:If this flips town, we are listening to me tomorrow and flashwagoning clidd. That boi is scum just watch.

Before I read up, lol at morning and i's convo yesterday like
"OMG THIS IS THE MOST OBVTOWN I'VE EVER BEEN"
"OMG SAME BUT WE NOT GONNA LAST LONG"
"N2 NK EYYY"

that was paraphrased btw so uhm yeah

Red Eye knights officially moved to scum pool btw. That post was horrible and lack of Akarin is weird. I've heard Akarin loves being town. With so much content, they should be here if town right?

Looks like this will be an interesting EoD and we need a VC.

Also, play nice. I'll be busy on and off today.

In post 3491, Pink Ball wrote:Rogue Squadron - 40 posts
Akarin - 14 posts
New hydra with Ari: all posts from Ari, including voting for Battle Mage

Define "been the more active head of the hydra", 'cause I don't see too much discussion right now about this slot and that sounds more like "practically lurking out" than anything

In post 3604, Titus wrote:Looks like this will be an interesting EoD and we need a VC.

Also, play nice. I'll be busy on and off today.

No if I'm going to get blamed in such a horrible way, I will not be nice.
I can blame myself but it is not right for others to blame me like that.

I didn't say you were being mean.

In post 3514, Gamma Emerald wrote:The issue is I can’t recall anything Akarin has done recently

I like this from Gamma.

In post 3607, Titus wrote:I didn't say you were being mean.

I didnt think I was being too mean either but I forgot you got over your obsession with me.

In post 3524, 5uffering wrote:See I'm in a pretty troublesome position.

I have a scumread you're saying no to. The other push I made on Gamma didn't gain traction. Just to out some of my frustration but

Gamma you're a fucking slime and you have no reason to scumread me and haven't even bothered to explain why.

I'm not seeing where else I'd want to put my vote and it seems that my reasoning for these pushes did not reach you.

Troublesome.

I notice this post got heat but I do not understand why tbh. This post is not scummy at all.....?

In post 3529, Gamma Emerald wrote:Your wagon analysis looked like bunk, and your push on me read like you wanted me to dig myself into a hole.

In post 3530, 5uffering wrote:Hollow words.

may I suggest TvT as a possibility here?

In post 3534, 5uffering wrote:Here's the difference between you and me I want everyone else to see this clear.

Gamma had no problem with me up until the moment I voted them

, and only based on confrontation has he done anything with the apparent mounting evidence. Rubber meets glue.

I had to actually think about why I wanted to vote Gamma and then took the time to explain myself. And I'm the one being called scum? Is it opposite day?

I want to say that gamma is ... pretty OMGUS-y when he wants to be......

In post 3606, Batsunami wrote:I can blame myself but it is not right for others to blame me like that.

Everyone who voted for Battle Mage doesn't have the moral authority to say anything to Bat and we should just stop bringing it up, especially you Nancy as I feel it just keeps it going. It's done and over!

In post 3546, Starcrossed wrote:my thread presence would be so much higher if I was scum just FYI.

Oh gosh this can die now.

In post 3552, Starcrossed wrote:this is some very impressive scum theater

Pooky you can't possibly think that Gamma v Suffering is SvS ...
no there's no way you think that...

In post 3568, 5uffering wrote:I want you to really rethink the way you perceive motivations if you flip me. I'm not trying to speak down to you either. Nobody plays this game as if it were black and white. Sometimes there are things that don't really make sense. We can have negative reactions. Sometimes things seem really good too. I think that's your hubris. If something feels bad then it's bad. If it's good then must be good.

Instead of assuming that your first response to something must mean it's the truth, try to find out why you feel that way. That's what makes the game more dynamic and more interesting.

you have a black and white prfpc

In post 3613, ItalianoVD wrote:

In post 3606, Batsunami wrote:I can blame myself but it is not right for others to blame me like that.

Everyone who voted for Battle Mage doesn't have the moral authority to say anything to Bat and we should just stop bringing it up, especially you Nancy as I feel it just keeps it going. It's done and over!

Thanks!

My posts weren't about you specifically.

Town:
Me and morning
Pink Ball
(Fey if she were not a paranoia null)
Dunnstral
Italiano
War and Peace
5uffering
Gamma

Null:
Fey(I admit this probably should be a TR but her last post telling me my reads were batshit basically made my paranoia levels skyrocket. tho I'd like to think she wouldn't say something like that as town, I am not certain)
Morty and Rick
SaraharaS

Scum:
Pyro
Starcrossed
Red Eye Knights
Toog
Clidd

Oof, okay let me respond to some of this Noraa. I didn't mean to get you this riled up.

What I was saying was that I don't think this is a mistake we should continue to make phase after phase. I trusted your conviction and it was wrong. I'm not blaming you for having given you my vote. It wasn't about that. I wasn't trying to shade you and my comment about the mis-metaing was moreso a commentary on a Gamma read than anything else.

Have I read 150 pages? no. Am I responding to what I have read? yes. Sorry if it was already addressed. I mentioned in that post that I had missed it if it had been.
On the same lines, I think you're town but I don't see how you are claiming pseudo-conftown at this point but I may have missed it.

Akarin is busy, thus being absent and thus being in a hydra. I also am busy, thus not inning to the game when it was in signups and choosing to join in as a hydra. Her lack of presence is NAI.

In post 3606, Batsunami wrote:

In post 3604, Titus wrote:Looks like this will be an interesting EoD and we need a VC.

Also, play nice. I'll be busy on and off today.

No if I'm going to get blamed in such a horrible way, I will not be nice.
I can blame myself but it is not right for others to blame me like that.

Noraa I'm not blaming you or attacking you. I'm sorry if it appeared that way <3

Like, I'll move on from it, but I saw the continued parallel of essentially trying to kingmaker a slot here and it's only going to end badly. That's all.

That was me again. Oops. It's been a while since I've had to sign posts.

Batsunami are we in the Scum Pool for you just because of this interaction or the lack of Akarin or what?
Does that change with the knowledge that Akarin is probably too busy for this game but is sticking it out anyway?

- Darth Roast

In post 3619, Batsunami wrote:Town:
Me and morning
Pink Ball
(Fey if she were not a paranoia null)
Dunnstral
Italiano
War and Peace
5uffering
Gamma

Null:
Fey(I admit this probably should be a TR but her last post telling me my reads were batshit basically made my paranoia levels skyrocket. tho I'd like to think she wouldn't say something like that as town, I am not certain)
Morty and Rick
SaraharaS

Scum:
Pyro
Starcrossed
Red Eye Knights
Toog
Clidd

I'm going to quickly go through the major changes.
I've moved Dunnstral up a noticeable amount mainly just because I am no longer SRing him. I'm not sure what was happening at the beginning of the game but after giving this some thought, it feels to me like what happened was a very very small play style clash. What it feels like is that I've "gotten used" to it now and it no longer feels scummy. Which this could just be an indicator that Dunn purposefully changed his play or I am just not familiar with it and found it scummy when there really was nothing there. Combined with Morning's TR on him since a long time ago, I have decided to let go of that SR and move him up.

Italiano is a pretty big MEH for me. I've played with him once and I found him to be the towniest person on the planet in that game but he was scum. In that game, I caught scum shelly on page 7 and then she repped out and Italiano repped in. I remember having such conflicting thoughts at the time because I have a very high accuracy rate on reading shelly. I've read her wrong once but because I thought I solved the game elsewhere so kind of just ignored her. But when Italiano repped in I was like FUCK HE'S SO TOWNY DID I READ SHELLY WRONG? Thankfully town pushed him through for me which probably means he didnt come off that towny to them but he came off very towny to me so I take the fact that I nullread him here as a sign that he is town.

Suffering is in my town reads almost completely because of the claim. I don't have a strong read on them anyway but I don't think that is the optimal lim today and I also think that nothing they have done pings scum that hard. Suffering has kinda just been a comfort SR since the moment they entered the thread. They seem so easy to SR for weak reasons and that makes me think they're town.

Gamma is weaker town than Suffering and if one of my TRs was wrong, it'd be this one I think. Idk why I'm putting gamma up here tbh he probably deserves a spot in null but eh. He's pretty eh and i have no idea how to read him so yay.

Moved Sarahara up just because she dipped from thread and so her SR faded a bit.

Pyro moved up because Morning keeps saying he's town so its whatever. I could be wrong.

Starcrossed just feels like a scumbag and idk what else to say. Morning seems to agree as well last I checked so that checks out. Scummy as hell but could be town anyways cuz fuck my reads. I'm not that strong on this read or the Pyro read(anymore ofc)

Aristo isn't doing anything and it's weird. I've played one game with him and I remember thinking him very scummy because it felt like he had an agenda. I think that Aristo does give off that kind of vibe that feels very scummy as town. It's not really scummy in the sense that he seems informed but he just constantly seems to be thinking and almost plotting. I think that comes from the fact that he is an old player (mafia age) so he is constantly thinking and that comes out on my end as plotting. The thing is that I don't see that here. I don't really SR him surface level wise but he's missing that one puzzle piece and it doesn't feel right. The only way I can explain it is he might be a vt or scum. I mean he was a pr in that one game so that could also influence this feeling that he gives off. I know not much about Akarin but supposedly they are good at being town and love being town. But ... I've seen their shadow maybe two times this game and that's a bit concerning.

Toog and Clidds silent refusal to ever engage me about my SR on them is scum indicative all the way. These are two towny players that will take the reins of any game and lead town to victory. The way they do it is not be cowering in the corner and not replying to obvtown's SRs on them.

In post 3620, Red Eye Knights wrote:I don't see how you are claiming pseudo-conftown at this point but I may have missed it.

I claim

there you happy now?

In post 3623, Batsunami wrote:

In post 3620, Red Eye Knights wrote:I don't see how you are claiming pseudo-conftown at this point but I may have missed it.

I claim

secret second town stump

there you happy now?

Cool perfect yes!

Noraa conftown time to move on