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In post 252, Cephrir wrote:

In post 248, DiamondSentinel wrote:@Kuroi

If you argued that I didn't make a scumslip (yes, I know arguing is a bit of a misnomer), then why would you vote for me?

Correction please. If you were voting for me, then why would you bother arguing that I didn't scumslip.

Are you one of those "everything has to be for a specific reason" peoppe

In post 253, DiamondSentinel wrote:No. It's just that, if there's a reason, I want it to make sense.

In post 268, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 267, Cheetory6 wrote:

kdowns wrote:Which in my head is throwing off red flags because why as early as Day 1 do we need to have anyone make any claims to even begin discussion on who is scummy or not.

So, your thoughts are that DS is scum trying to seem like he's doing something while not scumhunting?

In post 144, kdowns wrote:Especially after getting on to Grib for not wanting to RVS and then claiming to be Facetous after people start to get onto him.

Does DS not come across as sarcastic in that post to you? The vote is immediately followed up with this:

DiamondSentinel wrote:Trust me. This is a 100% solid fact. I would never lie to you. Mostly because I'm town, but also because lying should be done as sparingly as possible.

Does this read as something that he needs to backtrack on?

kdowns wrote:Grib, from what I've read so far just seems to be defending himself from DS' attacks onto him for not wanting to RVS.

How are you reading him from this conclusion.

Cheetory, why do you think that KDowns has thrown such a poorly made chainsaw defense at me over my episode with Grib?

In post 270, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 269, Cheetory6 wrote:Objection. The prosecution is leading the witness.

Sustained.

Mr. Cheetory. Why would KDowns have felt the desire to make

a

chainsaw defense against me, in the defense of Gribs?

In post 271, DiamondSentinel wrote:Because, as we all know, this is very blatantly a chainsaw defense.

In post 273, DiamondSentinel wrote:I'm not accusing him of partnering. I'm accusing him of trying to garner a cult of personality. Or a harem. Either way, he's trying to wedge his way into a townbloc that isn't even a thing yet.

Of course, they could both be scum, but that's just ridiculous.

In post 1111, DiamondSentinel wrote:Can we hurry up and lynch this kid. I could really use a new day.

In post 1122, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1114, keyenpeydee wrote:

In post 1111, DiamondSentinel wrote:Can we hurry up and lynch this kid. I could really use a new day.

This is suspicious. Wanting to lynch this "kid" means that you can have another day OR maybe avoid this lynch so that you can kill this night huh?

Neither.

It's so that we can get out of fucking day 1. I hate D1 with a fiery passion. It's 100% speculation.

In post 1587, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1586, Cephrir wrote:

In post 282, DiamondSentinel wrote:In all honesty, it's because Ceph's attitude is really pissing me off so I want him out.

1. It was an RVS vote.

2. I didn't say that you were a terrible person or swear at you.

3. Your attitude was (and sorta kinda still is) pretty terrible.

In post 1896, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1895, MagnaofIllusion wrote:

In post 1893, DiamondSentinel wrote:Interesting.

VOTE: keyenpeydee

(Hiplop dies later. keyen gets rope right now)

Interesting. VOTE: keyenpeydee(Hiplop dies later. keyen gets rope right now)

Not unless you are claiming Night actions he doesn't.

Key can be lynched at any time. hiplop is like that frustrating mold that takes tons of work to clear out. Just look at Firebringer's recent Legends of the Hidden Speakeasy. We need as many not-scum alive as possible to take care of this mold infestation. The longer he lingers the more effective his partners will be in keeping him alive.

How about this. Both of us leave our mostly naked votes, and see which one the rest of the town likes best.

In post 1905, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1898, MagnaofIllusion wrote:

In post 1896, DiamondSentinel wrote:How about this. Both of us leave our mostly naked votes, and see which one the rest of the town likes best.

Nope. I gave in to letting Town and scum come together for a god-awful mislynch yesterday behind the leadership of Imperiuym and I'm done letting Town be led around blindly.

Why were you so eager to hammer a player who was obviously Town yesterday BTW?

Eh, at that point, I figured I might have been misreading them, so I didn't really care.

But I am quite confident in the murder of keyen being a good thing.


Also, I elect that I be the next town leader. Follow me blindly plox.

In post 51, Imperium wrote:

Vote: DiamondSentinel

Why are you asking negative utility roles to out when it's a part of the meta that you want to change?

In post 928, Imperium wrote:

In post 925, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 923, Imperium wrote:and i think this is the only player that i've played with that this holds true for
if i have a bunch of townreads elsewhere that i feel good about then sure it's snarky time but otherwise probably not, regardless of case

Can you read me, Nacho/Tammy (I don't know which one this is). I don't think you can. Very few can read me consistently.

this is something that many people have also said before
it doesn't often hold true, though

In post 1215, Imperium wrote:

In post 1213, DiamondSentinel wrote:Oh yes. This has been the general trend of conversation, Imperium.

who is your current pick for scum?

In post 1219, Imperium wrote:

In post 1102, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Also the Snarky wagon dissipating on Nachos cute but irrelevant “Oh, no-one can read him” tale I think will be a great place to start looking for bussers who hopped at the first sign of an easy exit.

@Imperium – why are you ignoring my question about Tammy’s participation in the hydra?

My cute but irrelevant tale is why I personally am not voting him at this point in time; I've also responded to your case and where I felt it went wrong, so if you're looking to actually talk why you think that Snarky is scum with me, I'd recommend that as a good jumping off point.

I didn't ignore your question about Tammy's participation; if the question is "why hasn't she posted yet?" she hasn't participated yet because she is also sick and starting her new semester next week, and thus her priorities lie there.

In post 1122, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1114, keyenpeydee wrote:

In post 1111, DiamondSentinel wrote:Can we hurry up and lynch this kid. I could really use a new day.

This is suspicious. Wanting to lynch this "kid" means that you can have another day OR maybe avoid this lynch so that you can kill this night huh?

Neither.

It's so that we can get out of fucking day 1. I hate D1 with a fiery passion. It's 100% speculation.

I'd argue that your posts have been mostly speculation and nothing but and I expected a bit more from you by now, but I suppose I don't actually remember playing a game with you from the start, so meh.

In post 1223, Imperium wrote:

In post 1220, DiamondSentinel wrote:You played Machina mafia with me.

And you should recognize that my behavior lines up almost exactly with that game.

i don't remember your behavior from Machina, all I remember is a townread that I don't really have here although that could be in part to not really reading the entire day. I don't think that your scumhunting has been anything impressive or memorable (your vote on camntsuki is a holdover from RVS, right?), you've been quick to chime in on useless conversations but nothing that seems like it could possibly be going anywhere. I'm willing to give you time since the paranoia will inevitably set in if you're town.

In post 1263, Imperium wrote:

In post 1261, DiamondSentinel wrote:Ok. That self-vote deserves a lynch with fire.


Town should NEVER EVER SELF VOTE.

should never =/= don't ever

In post 1273, Imperium wrote:

In post 1084, kdowns wrote:

In post 1075, DiamondSentinel wrote:I'm going to let you guys have your fun for the rest of the day. I will only vote to hammer (so don't take someone to L-1 if you don't want them dead).

Why? Tbh I don't even trust you to be the one to Hammer.


Also tbh I am reading Hip town. Then again last time I played with Hip was years ago.

also gotta say i'm liking this kdowns post

In post 1656, Imperium wrote:@Farside:

These are some examples of DS posts that I was talking about in that paragraph on him.

In post 837, DiamondSentinel wrote:@MoI

Setup speculation typically works well. Shos' game was an entirely different situation (and still bullshit. It was borderline bastard. "You are unable to be killed [except by these sources which you have no idea about]". There's a difference between swingy and lying to people)

Additionally, there are a variety of situations that Farside's claim could turn up badly. One that I'm thinking of is a ludicrous claim that she then points back to it and says "see, I was already talking about it from day 1" (I don't know exactly how it would work. I'm quite terrible at lying or figuring out ways in which someone would lie in some made-up, hypothetical situation)

This is talking about you (who claimed you had a flavor that might be contrary to expectations). As scum, I don't think it takes an extraordinary amount of effort to talk about how maybe your Negative Utility Claim that wasn't a negative utility claim at all (but if there's an expectation for him to be active I can see him filling up his posts with stuff like this), whereas I don't understand why he's talking about it now as town when he's continually reminded us that he will be alive Day 3/4 (and thus isn't worried about dying before rooting this out).

In post 861, DiamondSentinel wrote:Man, this wagon really doesn't have any resistance.

And hadn't it popped up in like two days?

We need a counter wagon...

This is an extraordinarily weak resistance to a wagon that wasn't particularly driven in the first place; the picture that I have in my mind when reading this post is the Snarky wagon being a small child pushing around one of those toy mowers with the plastic balls bouncing around and DiamondSentinel being a drunk parent on the front lawn mumbling something unintelligible to himself before passing out yet again, and is a good example of what I mean by "active, present, but not really giving a fuck". He's around. He's commenting on it. But it's pretty clear to me that it doesn't care.

In post 925, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 923, Imperium wrote:and i think this is the only player that i've played with that this holds true for
if i have a bunch of townreads elsewhere that i feel good about then sure it's snarky time but otherwise probably not, regardless of case

Can you read me, Nacho/Tammy (I don't know which one this is). I don't think you can. Very few can read me consistently.

And then instead of commenting on the Snarky wagon, DS just wants to know whether we can read him or not.
Who cares? What does this have to do with anything going on in the thread right now?

In post 1325, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1315, BROseidon wrote:

In post 1313, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1310, BROseidon wrote:

In post 1308, DiamondSentinel wrote:Yeah, time to start playing. You've had a slight issue with this in both games I've been in with you (and I don't really care about your excuse for it)

I mean, I am playing?

"You don't play mafia the way I think everyone should play it, therefore you aren't playing it."

You know what happens when everyone spams up the thread with incoherent walls of shit? The game becomes massively unfun.

So I'll leave that to you while I both don't shit up the thread and end up with better reads than you (assuming you are, in fact, town, which I'm not particularly compelled to believe at this point).

Actually, I was more talking about how you have an issue with lurking. Not like PV does. But still, it's an issue at times (again, don't care about the reasons)

I'm not sure whether to respond with condescending snark or actual content, so you get both.

1) And I'm still a better player than you. What does that say about your spamming up the thread every fucking game
2) A certain portion of the game needs to lurk at various parts of the game, especially in a large. Lurking with 5-7 people left? Yeah, problem. Lurking because it's day 1 of a large game and people are spamming everywhere and you want day 1 to not hit 100 pages

again

? Correct.

Not to mention contextual lurking based on PR-play and mixups for PR play, but I don't really think you have the nuance to employ those tactics so I'll leave it at that.

I thought you said you were going to be snarky. Not facetious. The fact that you would put 2 completely different playstyles up beside each other and said objectively that one is better than the other is ridiculous. I won't get into why it's ridiculous now, but expect a nice long rant post-game.

Also, you lurking will not stop a game from reaching 100 pages on its own. If it's going to reach that far, then give content so that people can actually read you. Cool? Cool.

This is the "BRO, produce content so I can read you!" post. It was a strange post for him to make because while he has been posting a lot, sure, but actual content or even questioning that he's produced has been pretty close to absent.